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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:20 AM
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So....it seems Michelle Malkin has given her readers their marching orders..
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 10:22 AM by KoKo01
http://www.atlargely.com/2008/12/connell-roundup.html


Larisa,

First time I'm reading your blog.
I'm an Independent - but I read Michelle Malkin's blog a lot (trust me - I'm truly Independent regardless)- that's how I found out about the tragic death of Mike Connell - she linked to a Raw Story article.

One of her commenters posted a comment made by one of Mike Connell's kids - detailing that Mr. Connell was in touch with the tower and was trying to get the plane to climb - but it was not responding. The comment also expressed that the family wished the "conspiracy" talk would stop.

I don't have all that much time to delve into this - but I have looked through various things posted on the Internet about this. I certainly understand some of the speculation about the crash - due to the circumstances of the ongoing
investigation Mr. Connell was involved with as was reported in The Raw Story via MM's blog. If it wasn't for this story, I wouldn't of had a clue as to who Mike Connell was...

I think Michelle Malkin may have gone overboard -as she usually does - in charging The Raw Story -with conspiracy theory mongering - when in fact - I feel the Raw Story article did raise some legitimate facts as to this tragedy.

On the other hand, I think you were a bit hard on
the writers of the Akron newspaper - which I believe I read the same article - (see link)
http://www.ohio.com/news/36521859.html -
and I thought it was a good broad based article -it seemed to mentioned the conspiracy theories -because the net already has some buzz going on about this.

I will check back with your blog about this - and other things you write in general. You are definitely an interesting person - and I would like to hear more of your perspective on things.

I can understand how this recent tragedy is upsetting to you. But since it's that time of year, I hope you don't mind me wishing you a Happy Hunnakah, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year.

John

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/12/connell-roundup.html




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  - RESPONSE FROM LARISA ALEXANDROVNA  Raster   Dec-23-08 11:30 AM   #1 
  - Thank you for posting her response.  myrna minx   Dec-23-08 11:55 AM   #3 
  - My privilege and pleasure.  Raster   Dec-23-08 12:02 PM   #4 
  - Why didn't the article mention rapidly deteriorating visibilty and weather conditions?  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 02:07 PM   #6 
     - Who are you? Really? n/t  Texas Explorer   Dec-23-08 02:30 PM   #8 
        - Someone who thinks  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 02:39 PM   #9 
           - You sure are spending a lot of time and words  Jazzgirl   Dec-23-08 02:50 PM   #11 
           - interesting...  lala_rawraw   Dec-23-08 03:19 PM   #13 
  - Larissa should be proud of that letter. It shows that an impartial person  8_year_nightmare   Dec-23-08 11:51 AM   #2 
  - Deleted. Responded to wrong post.  Jazzgirl   Dec-23-08 02:48 PM   #10 
  - I think Malkin may have got HER marching orders as well  kineta   Dec-23-08 12:19 PM   #5 
  - And the beat goes on...  Ilsa   Dec-23-08 02:24 PM   #7 
  - Malkin is NOT a 'trained' rat-fucker.  TahitiNut   Dec-23-08 03:05 PM   #12 
     - It's amazing to me that anyone would read her crap posts...given her  KoKo01   Dec-23-08 05:40 PM   #18 
     - BTW...the RW has Nothing Else to Do These Days!  KoKo01   Dec-23-08 05:51 PM   #20 
  - my feeling is  lala_rawraw   Dec-23-08 03:23 PM   #14 
  - F*ck Malkin and her ilk. You keep up the good work and find  Texas Explorer   Dec-23-08 05:13 PM   #15 
     - Thanks Much for you Snoopy Snow Flakes..it did good to this  KoKo01   Dec-23-08 05:47 PM   #19 
        - You're very welcome. I'm a 44 year old man who  Texas Explorer   Dec-23-08 06:11 PM   #21 
           - thanks:)  lala_rawraw   Dec-23-08 06:41 PM   #22 
           - Same to you...  KoKo01   Dec-23-08 09:17 PM   #23 
  - Their marching orders and their jackboots.....  marmar   Dec-23-08 05:15 PM   #16 
     - She is a Pig who just filters on Internet stuff from Drudge and Limbaugh from Heritage Foundation!  KoKo01   Dec-23-08 05:34 PM   #17 
 
Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:30 AM
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1. RESPONSE FROM LARISA ALEXANDROVNA
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 11:32 AM by Raster
Thanks for this. First of all, Malkin is a racist lunatic and her readers are pretty much just that (most of them).

Now, the RS article was perfectly fair. It described the allegations against him, the concerns about his safety as provided to the court, and the fact that he died.

Not a single theory, conspiracy or otherwise is in that article. Reader's comments are not part of an article. What Malkin and her fools have done is conflated the comments with the article and taken things out of context. Then they ran off to post the nonsense at other web-sites and blogs, like a virus. It is amazing to me how willfully they are manipulating the story and how easily their readers simply accept what is told to them.

I have seen this now on several right-wing lunatic blogs. It is amazing to watch these people link to something and describe it as something entirely different.

There is not a single conspiracy theory or assumption in that article.

Now, as for the kid, I have no idea if that was really the child. But if that is the case, again, the child is reacting to the comments.

And frankly, there is nothing wrong with loving your dad and thinking him the most honest and decent person in the world. That shows a healthy relationship. I too would go defend my dad against allegations, as would most of you. But a child's love does not equal fact. That is what Malkin is exploiting on her blog. She is exploiting a child's honest and sad reaction as proof of something totally out of context with the article.

On the fuel question, we were initially told that by investigators. I have since updated that information. We were also told that he was in communication with ground control. As I noted, I have stopped updating mechanical/fuel/ice information until the investigators get themselves organized and have an actual solid answer.

Malkin simply linked, made a snide remark and that was that. If you have a moment, you may wish to ask Malkin to actually address where she found a theory in the article. Seriously, I am curious if she managed to read any of it.
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Re-posted and linked from the original comment and Larisa's response:

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/12/connell-roundup.html
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:55 AM
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3. Thank you for posting her response.
K&R for Larisa.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:02 PM
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4. My privilege and pleasure.
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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:07 PM
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6. Why didn't the article mention rapidly deteriorating visibilty and weather conditions?
?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:30 PM
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8. Who are you? Really? n/t
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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:39 PM
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9. Someone who thinks
a lot of people are jumping the gun on a Connell conspiracy.

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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:50 PM
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11. You sure are spending a lot of time and words
doing it too. I think most of us are intelligent enough to figure out we need to wait for the facts from the investigation. We don't need someone telling us not to consider "conspiracy" considering the circumstances.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:19 PM
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13. interesting...
this report?
http://rawstory.com/images/other/climatedata.tiff

the one that shoes what? come on, i know you can explain it to all of us. what i find strange is that Malkin makes the link to RS article, which only provides a summary of the publicly known facts (such as court records) and calls it a conspiracy theory (despite no one making the allegations that it is in the article)... and you show up to talk about the ice storm? tell us, really, explain it for us with clear and direct citations of why Malkin's attack is appropriate and how your response is simply posted out of concern? really, i am curious.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:51 AM
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2. Larissa should be proud of that letter. It shows that an impartial person
has been won over by Larissa, whom he didn't know until Malkin linked to her. He first read Malkin's spin, then he was won over by Larissa's facts. A victory for Larissa.

And it's a victory for the left, too, because one person seems to have seen with his own eyes that the right gets their information from hateful spin pundits whose interest is division; they can't use truth to divide people because the truth doesn't favor their "side".

Way to go, Larissa!

:toast:
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:48 PM
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10. Deleted. Responded to wrong post.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 02:49 PM by Jazzgirl
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:19 PM
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5. I think Malkin may have got HER marching orders as well
:tinfoilhat: ?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:24 PM
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7. And the beat goes on...
If Rove was involved at any point, we know there are newly-trained rat-f#$kers on the job. I supposed Malkin is one of them.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:05 PM
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12. Malkin is NOT a 'trained' rat-fucker.
For her, it seems to come naturally.

:evilgrin:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:40 PM
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18. It's amazing to me that anyone would read her crap posts...given her
background. Shouldn't someone check out her "credentials" or do we not bother with that "stuff" anymore?

:eyes: ...How does someone with such low creds keep posting. I almost wish her FUNDER had INVESTED WITH MADDOW..then I could feel good.. :eyes:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:51 PM
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20. BTW...the RW has Nothing Else to Do These Days!
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 05:53 PM by KoKo01
but to FLOOD THE LIBERAL INTERNET SITES WITH their CRAP...THEY ARE BANKRUPT in thier IDIOLOGY, FUNDIE RELGION (those preachers with the carefully coiffed HAIR..(BIG HAIR and EYELIFTS like PELOSI) and so the "Beat Goes On" Yadda, Yadda...whatever............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Wr8J8faGA
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:23 PM
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14.  my feeling is
that her fellow idiots were hungry for a good liberals-see-aliens tale, so she linked to the first thing she found - which apparently none of them (including her) bothered to read. my favorite, and it maybe in her comments on that or on another right-wing lunatic's blog, is that someone linked to a Hustler magazine cover and said it was me ---- EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT, CLEARLY NOT, LOOKS NOTHING LIKE, me. i am really quite convinced that they were left behind during the last evolutionary jump.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:13 PM
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15. F*ck Malkin and her ilk. You keep up the good work and find
out what the hell's going on with Connell and then tell us about it. Thank you for your hard work and determination.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:47 PM
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19. Thanks Much for you Snoopy Snow Flakes..it did good to this
DU'ers soul..for something....LOST INNOCENCE, perhaps?

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:11 PM
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21. You're very welcome. I'm a 44 year old man who
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 06:14 PM by Texas Explorer
longs for that lost innocence and never fails to catch the Christmas classics like A Charlie Brown Christmas and How the Grinch Stole Christmas. Peanuts is very nostalgic for me and the traditional Christmas stuff turns me into a big ole kid.

You have a wonderful Christmas, KoKo01.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:41 PM
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22. thanks:)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:17 PM
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23. Same to you...
:hi: and "Charlie & Grinch" are always at our house replayed every Christmas..

There's something about innocence and nostaligia and what how it fits in...lest we all become too cynical so that we can't move one way or another...frozen in our "stuff."

Whatever!

Peace & Happy to you and yours.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:15 PM
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16. Their marching orders and their jackboots.....
Michelle Malkin is a pig.


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:34 PM
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17. She is a Pig who just filters on Internet stuff from Drudge and Limbaugh from Heritage Foundation!
Why...after all this work with internet sites and authors like Eric Alterman/Joe Conason and others are we back to living in 2000 Election? AND..the aftermath that seemed to come to NOTHING...given what we are dealing with with this CRAP/BIASED/CONTROLLED by THINK TANKS ON RW MEDIA...that will ROLL ON! ROLL ON! Unless Obama puts a FCC CHAIRMAN WHO STOPS IT!!!!
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