Oct. 8: Pastor Rick Warren announces support in favor of Proposition 8

[Bluebear]

Rick Warren, nationally acclaimed pastor and author of the New York Times bestselling "The Purpose Driven Life," announced today his support in favor of Proposition 8, California's Protect Marriage Act.

Warren, founder and senior pastor of Saddleback Church, affirmed his support of the proposition, which would restore the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman, in his News and Views email which is distributed to church members.

"For 5,000 years, every culture and every religion -- not just Christianity -- has defined marriage as a contract between men and women," Warren wrote. "There is no reason to change the universal, historical definition of marriage to appease 2% of our population."

http://www.houseconservatives.com/blog/pastor-rick-warren-announces-support-for-proposition-8/

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Well, who better to deliver the "invocation" for a Democratic President at his inauguration?

Well, my enthusiasm for watching the festivities just deflated like a balloon.

[Maven]

1. Awesome. Let's give him some prestige and a podium!

What?

What's your problem?! It's not like Obama agrees with him. So.

[Bluebear]

Lighten up dude!!!!!!1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4669683&mesg_id=4669976

It's not like Reverend Donnie McClurkin will be singing!

[Glorfindel]

2. Mine, too

With all the swarms and great, heaving masses of clergypersons there are in this god-obsessed nation, why did they have to pick this particular piece o' shit? Wasn't His Holiness Ratzi the Nazi available? :puke:

[girl gone mad]

14. Fred Phelps was busy?

:shrug:

[lapfog_1]

3. DISAPPOINTED. As Dick "war criminal" Cheney would say... "bigtime". - n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

4. I was just looking for that!

Good. For all the jackassses slamming those of us who are not happy with the Warren pick, this is a good example of WHY we are not at all happy. :mad:


Again, this is (sadly) not the first time O has pulled this shit:

http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568864&newsid=18978548&rfi=6


Gospel Preacher's Anti-Gay 'Rant' at Obama Concert
By: DOUG IRELAND
11/01/2007

The controversy over what Mother Jones magazine called Senator Barack Obama's "pander-to-black-hatred tour" featuring homophobic "ex-gay" preacher-singer Donnie McClurkin continued this past week.

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In an attempt to mollify the widespread protests by the LGBT community over McClurkin's appearance, the Obama campaign had hastily arranged at the last minute for an openly gay South Carolina pastor, Andy Sidden, to join the roster at the concert. But Sidden's appearance was notably brief and anti-climactic; he said a short prayer to the auditorium at the very beginning of the program, when the arena was only about half full, and then he left.

The Obama campaign had assured members of the LGBT community that McClurkin - who has told the Washington Post that he's in "a war" against what he calls "the curse of homosexuality" - would not use the event to speak against what he claims is "the choice" of homosexuality. Instead, McClurkin delivered what outspoken Obama supporter Andrew Sullivan, who is openly gay, afterward described on his blog as a "rant

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One of Obama's most prominent gay supporters has already quit the campaign over the McClurkin affair - Bob Farmer, whom the Washington Post has called a "legendary fundraiser." The openly gay Farmer, who is from Boston, first came to national prominence as chief fundraiser for the 1988 presidential drive of then-Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis; served as finance chair of the Democratic National Committee during President George H.W. Bush's administration; was a top fundraiser for Bill Clinton; and in 2004 served as national treasurer for John Kerry's presidential campaign. Farmer resigned from the Obama campaign last Friday, in what a source close to him told this reporter was "disgust" at Obama's refusal to cancel McClurkin's campaign appearance after the protests against it began.

[Bluebear]

6. I was told that was just so Obama could "win"

Then it would all change, as the community would be embraced with a progressive agenda.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

10. I have a long memory...

and I remember that too. :(

I hated it the first time, but having to swallow that shit twice??? Not a fucking chance.

[LeftCoast]

5. At least Bill Clinton waited until AFTER he was president before he threw us under the bus

Fucking typical.

[Dennis Donovan]

7. Recommended all they way to Obama's ears...

I cannot think of a WORSE choice - why would Obama choose someone so devisive??:shrug:

[musette_sf]

8. put Slick Dick Warren in the "Cone of Silence"

on OUR Inauguration Day Of Change!!!

[SoCalNative]

9. There shouldn't be any religious component allowed

anyway. Not even the placing of one's hand on a bible while the oath is administered.

[Terran]

11. I'm so sick of uneducated people pulling that

"traditional definition of marriage" out of their asses. Nobody ever *needed* to "define" marriage until the 20th century, because few people, if any, ever contemplated that same-sex loving people would ever get married in the first place.

And besides, he's totally wrong. It's documented now that the early Chrisitan church did same-sex marriages, and somehow I doubt that idiot knows anything about other cultures and religions "define" marriage.

I have to admit, I'm not happy that Obama is handing this role to someone like this when there are *so many* prominent people of faith out there who don't carry this particular burden of ignorance. Why why WHY?

[Mari333]

12. yep. huge slap in the face to the gay community

just to give this guy any value is to give him credence for his stance.
just a HUGE slap.
I wont be watching.
if this keeps up anymore, Im going to vote green in 2012.

[JackRiddler]

13. Agreed, but also a huge slap...

to all that is decent and reasonable.

I wish we had a parliamentary system. Just once, I'd like representation, actual coalition building, not this tyranny of which elite can best con or buy a majority vote.

[Hepburn]

15. Just my opinion, but....

...that bigotted POS has NO business speaking at a National event of ANY nature.