Shoe Thrower's Hand Broken In Iraqi Jail-Reports & Rumors-He Is Being Subject To Torture

[kpete]

Shoe Thrower Being Tortured?
By: Siun Monday December 15, 2008 4:00 pm

While Tweety fussed about the propriety of Al Zaida’s shoe throw just now, very credible reports started to come in from Arabic sources that Muntader Al Zaida is in very bad shape:

Raed in the Middle reports:

Albaghdadia, the TV channel where the Iraqi Journalist Montather Al-Zeidi works, reports that an Iraqi MP (Ms. Zainab Al-Kanani) informed them that Montather's hand was broken in jail.

This confirms a lot of reports and rumors about Montather being subject to torture while the Iraqi authorities are interrogating and detaining him in some unspecified location.

http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/2008/12/montathers-hand-broken-in-jail.html
http://www.albaghdadia.com/news/

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I've checked the translation of this account with markfromireland of GorillasGuides who says this report sounds "about right" and is very credible. He also notes the reported injuries would be consistent with repeated severe kicking of Al Zaida.

Al Sharqiya is a major news outlet with a good reputation for credible reporting.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/shoe-thrower-being-tortured/

[pettypace]

1. Meet your new boss

Same as the last one.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. YEP!

x( And george said after the shoe throwing, that democracy made it possible or something bu$hism like that. :eyes:

[pacalo]

10. Yeah, I thought the boy king told the Iraqis he was getting rid of the torture rooms.

[SpiralHawk]

29. OMG - how brutally true

The republicon homelanders & puppet Iraq minions are torture freaks like no one has seen since the days of the "Holy Inquisition.'

[Dennis Donovan]

2. Not a very good idea to beat and torture the new hero of the Iraqi people...

:thumbsdown:

[opihimoimoi]

3. Madness...sheer madness.....he is a HERO...WTF are they doing to a man who is their HERO?

He stood up for all the widows , orphans and innocent victims of this war...

He is to be given a Medal and a place of HONOR...

WTF are they doing?

Is the Bush Camp telling Maliki to punish the man?

I would not doubt it

Damn....

[uppityperson]

4. I wouldn't doubt he was severely hurt or is being subjected to more.

fuck this angers me.

[The Sushi Bandit]

5. Here is the LBN story thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3646287

[specimenfred1984]

22. Geewillikers, never would've found that

It's all just so difficult, LOL.

[malaise]

7. But, but, but

I thought Bush said it was an expression of the new Iraqi freedom. Bush said so but then he also said I don't know what his beef was. :puke:

[Greyhound]

8. K&R #5, welcome ot the greatest page. Are these cocksuckers so stupid

that they will re-ignite the "insurgency"? This guy is a national hero after what he did, and they will not sit still for this outrage, they're not Amerikans.

Is it just a method of ensuring failure for Obama?

[stillcool]

9. throw more gas on that fire!!

an Iraqi in Iraq, displaying an Iraqi display of disgust is beaten and tortured for his showing of contempt at the man who killed over a million Iraqi's. And Americans are 'outraged' that someone threw shoes at their President.

[exman]

24. What Americans"outraged"?

Not in my neighborhood.

[City Lights]

11. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

x(

[CounterPropagandist]

12. Online Poll?

I'd like to see an online poll on this one. Someone who knows how to do this, please!


Q: Do you support throwing shoes at the president? A's, check one: 1) yes, 2) no, 3)only at President Bush.
Q: Do you believe if someone throws his shoes at the president, he should be tortured and have all his bones broken and maybe murdered? A's, check one: 1) yes, 2) no, 3) only if the torture happens in a Muslim country.

I think that millions of Americans derived secret vicarious satisfaction from it, something that many of us would love to have had the guts to do ourselves but couldn't because we live in the land of the free. Playing that tape over and over again on the news, you wonder if the newsmen loved it as much as the rest of us did. I'm not talking about hurting the president, nothing like that. Just insulting him.

But at least next time, try a creampie in the face.

Just a minute, I'm hearing a knock on my door, be right back.

[bdamomma]

13. that is why bush had a smirk on his face when the incident

happened he probably knew this reporter will have hell to pay. Terrible for the reporter.

[bigtree]

14. that's freedom for ya

[HCE SuiGeneris]

15. Chimpy wanted all of the footage confiscated and didn't get his wish.

You know that this man is paying for the Chimpenfuhrer's embarrassment.

I weep for his courageous act's repercussions on his health and welfare.

[CounterPropagandist]

18. Torture confirms the insulted behavior

Think about this. This is fascinating.

Here a guy throws his shoes at Bush, apparently without provocation. He doesn't fire any shots or anything really bad like that. He's simply putting Bush down hard. He calls Bush a dog, blames him for Iraqi windows and orphans and deaths of millions.

So, what does Bush do? He has the guy tortured!!! What does this say about Bush! It says, the guy us right! How smart is that?

"Bush, you tyrant!"
"I'm not a tyrant, and to prove it, I'm going to have you tortured to death!"

What would Obama do?

[tekisui]

16. Goddamit! It's time for EVERYONE to throw their shoes at the war criminal!

[uppityperson]

17. Blog on reporting in Iraq

http://middleeastblog.wordpress.com/
http://middleeastblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/no-photographs-allowed-detaining-those-documenting-the-war

The U.S army has refused to obey an Iraqi court order to release detained Reuters photographer Ibrahim Jassam Mohammed, insisting that it would hold him until January 2009.

The Iraqi Central Criminal court ruled on November 30 that there was no evidence against Jassam, who also works for other Iraqi media, and ordered his imminent release from Camp Cropper prison near Baghdad airport, where he has been detained since September.

The U.S military has claimed in the past that it has the right to hold detainees even if they have been found innocent by an Iraqi court.

Major Neal Fisher said of the case: “Though we appreciate the decision of the Central Criminal Court of Iraq in the Jassam case, their decision does not negate the intelligence information that currently lists him as a threat to Iraq security and stability,”...(more@link)

[jimshoes]

19. The chimp just couldn't leave bad enough alone

he had to go over there and stir up the hornets nest one more time before he slithers off into the snakepit. He cares about nothing but himself. May he be the receiver of a million more shoes.

[CounterPropagandist]

20. New Security Rules for Metal Detectors

I can just see it now! People are going to have to start checking their shoes, too, at the metal detectors you have to go through when you enter a federal building, or state or federal court!

Wow, there are a LOT of judges I wish I could have thought of this with! This could start a trend towards democracy. It's not going to be for me. I'm not going to carry out this fantasy. But I bet it gives a lot of other people ideas.

[Mira]

21. So much for "So what" - I am enraged / I hope against hope it's not true

[AmyCamus]

23. If Muntadar al-Zaidi lives to see trial it'll be a wonder.

They're going to kill him.

[libodem]

25. Proving Bushitler is a LIAR

and a dog's ass.

[moondust]

26. Bush style democracy is a wonderful thing, no?

:sarcasm:

[Octafish]

27. I hope he becomes the next Prime Minister or President or whatever of Iraq

That guy is a real uniter.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. This will lead to more dead troops.

Way to go, Bush.

[spanone]

30. it's a sick world we live in.

[sniffa]

31. Was it his throwing hand?

[spoony]

32. Yeah but at least it isn't Saddam doing it

That's what's important

:sarcasm: