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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:38 PM
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Can we stop referring to right wingers as pro-lifers?
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 04:38 PM by Barack08
Even on Democratic Underground, I see many people referring to Republicans as pro-life.

They are not pro-life.

The correct terminology is anti-choice.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:40 PM
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1. "Anti-choice" isn't snappy enough for sound bites.
Same with "unabashed theocrat".
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:40 PM
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2. Especially given their stand on capital punishment and war
Include any life issue other than abortion, and "pro-life" is revealed for the lie that it really is.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:40 PM
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3. You do know that there are some on the left that are "anti-choice"
I don't happen to be one of them, but there certainly are some here on DU as well...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:42 PM
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6. Well boo hoo hoo, does it hurt their feelings to lumped in with RWers?
How about calling them misogynistic scum? Does that make them feel better?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:46 PM
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9. You might want to ask THEM....
:shrug:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:41 PM
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4. i believe in letting each group decide on it's own name.
they want to be known as pro-life- that's fine by me- and that's how i'll continue to refer to them.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:46 PM
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10. So, if they call themselves 'freedom fighters'
Is that what you will call the rethugs from now on?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:48 PM
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25. if that's the name of their organization, yes. (but i'd probably put "finger quotes" around it...)
that applies to all groups on all sides of all issues.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:42 PM
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5. Here we use the term
'forced-pregnancy'.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:46 PM
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7. I call it "reproductive slavery,"
but that's a mouthful to say and type. I usually satisfy myself with quotes, as in "pro life" because they're certainly not pro female life. In fact, the hallmark of their position on that one issue is that they deny the humanity and right to life of the woman involved completely.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:46 PM
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8. That drives me totally nuts, too, especially when it comes from people who should know better.
Who exactly is "anti-life?!" Nobody that I know... They are either anti-abortion or anti-choice. Everybody is "pro-life...":eyes:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:48 PM
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11. Pro-preggers is more apt.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:48 PM
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12. Forced Birthers
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 04:49 PM by supernova
is what I call them.

Because they DON'T care about women nor kids after they are born.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:16 PM
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20. That's what I call them...even to their Face....and I Love It!
:)
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:48 PM
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13. yup, you're right. n/t
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:52 PM
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14. I just call them
batshit crazy fucks.

That's worked very well for me, since everyone always knows who I'm talking about.

SERIES, though, the anti-choice bunch were smart right out of the gate when they grabbed the "pro-life" handle and made it their own. Our side was dragging ass and never fought them on that very important matter of nomenclature. For a lot of years, as a volunteer lawyer with pro-choice organizations, I argued about that over and over, but my pleas fell on deaf ears. The folks, the good folks, naively thought that "names aren't important."

Well, named ARE important. I always love running into the rare ones who picket on behalf of the "pre-born," usually hauling big posters with fetus picture on them. I used to have a sign in my car, and I'd stop and get out and join them.

My sign had an arrow pointing down to me, and it simply said "Pre-Dead."

Names matter. Words matter.

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MyUserNameIsBroken Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:58 PM
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16. I've taken to calling them
The Fetal Rights Brigade. It's honest and yet subtly demeaning.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:03 PM
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17. Pukes
<<<
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:06 PM
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18. I pretty much eschew any rhetorical labels in the abortion debate
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 05:07 PM by PeterU
Those who favor the legal right to abortion are "pro-abortion rights" or "abortion rights advocates." (Note: They are not "pro-abortion" because many people who favor abortion rights do not see it as a good thing, but nonetheless favor it as a legal right.)

Those who oppose abortion are "anti-abortion." They oppose abortion. Pretty much self-explanatory.

"Life" and "Choice" are functionally useless terms meant only to make each respective side feel better about its ownself, and in the same breath demonize the opposition, i.e. "anti-life" and "anti-choice."
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:08 PM
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19. No, we can't. Just like we couldn't the last 30-odd times this was suggested.
Because we don't decide what the terminology is. And even if we could choose it ourselves, we'd need something snappier than "anti-choice" or "pro-forced-birth" or whatever ridiculous phrase is in vogue at the moment.

Like it or not, the media prefers "pro-choice" and "pro-life" because they're non-pejorative ways of referencing the sides. And that's the way it's going to stay.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:25 PM
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22. "Because we don't decide what the terminology is."
Yes we do get to decide. And it starts by every single pro-choicer referring to those who do not support the right to choose as anti-choice.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:55 PM
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26. well, i won't be, for one. i'll continue to use the terms pro-life and pro-choice.
not sorry. :hi:
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:17 PM
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21. Pro-birth, then screw um!
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:06 PM
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23. Fright wing party
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:31 PM
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24. I call them assholes........
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