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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:20 PM
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David Schuster! YOU LYING SON OF A BITCH!
Just said that although Obama stated that he had no contact with Blago regarding his vacant senate seat, he "left some sense" that someone on his transition team "may have" spoken with the governor. What Obama really said was that neither himself nor anyone on his team spoke to the governor about the seat, "of that I am certain."

I've had with these motherfuckers.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:22 PM
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1. Gossip and Speculation
I've turned to CNN until they stop this bullshit.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:23 PM
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2. actually he didnt lie, did you just see the Obama presser about an hour ago?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:24 PM
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5. WTF? Yes I saw and he didn't leave any sense that anyone on his
team spoke with Blago about the seat. What the fuck are you talking about?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:25 PM
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10. Actually, he did.
"I've asked my team to gather the facts of any contacts with the governor's office about this vacant seat, so that we can share them with you over the next few days."
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:33 PM
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22. more detail:
"I have asked my team to gather the facts of any contacts with the governor about this vacancy so that we can share them with you over the next few days," he said. "What I'm absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making about my Senate seat ... That would be a violation of everything this campaign was about and that is not how we do business."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/11/obama-denies-blagojevich_n_150248.html
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:38 PM
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26. And therein lies my point. Schuster said there was still "some sense"
that there is still suspicion of wrongdoing despite that quote. Combine that with their immediate "this isn't going to go away any time soon" proclamation with the first MSNBC breath following the presser and you have a bunch of lying sons-o-bitches on that channel.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:49 PM
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30. Thats not what your OP says.
your OP: he "left some sense" that someone on his transition team "may have" spoken with the governor.

As written in your OP, the statement is true. Therein lies the confusion, I'd guess.

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:44 PM
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28. Yep. I posted the whole thing below...
but felt the need to repeat it, as the OP didnt seems to be getting it.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:04 PM
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33. You have to parse his sentence - no "dealmaking" is the operative word
here - remember he's a lawyer and every word is important.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:27 PM
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11. 1st of all calm the fuck down
2nd of all he said he would have to get with his team and find out if anyone had any contact with Blago's staff.

3rd of all, what is the big deal if Obama's staff was suggesting who they want to replace Obama's own seat?

4th of all, isnt there a rumor that Rahm suggested someone and Blago asked what are you going to do for me and that Rahm actually blew the whistle on Blago?

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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:36 PM
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24. Yep
I think the Rahm rumor is actually true--how else would this have come out?

It would be nice if Fox and others really went after Obama on this, only to have it come out that it was someone from the Obama camp who blew the whistle.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:49 PM
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31. Yes he did. He denies any "deal making" but he has left open the possibility
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 12:51 PM by pnwmom
that there was some contact made -- that's what he said he's going to be gathering information on.

And if there was some contact, so what? There's nothing wrong with simply discussing the next occupant of Obama's Senate seat. What's wrong was Blago's trying to sell it to the highest bidder.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:23 PM
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3. the press is struggling with David Axelrod's earlier statement
that there were ongoing discussions.

He needs to clarify what that means as soon as possible instead of trying to spin it. They have him on tape.

It's ridiculous, but that's what the Rats sent out by the Pukkkes do to justify their inflated salaries.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:25 PM
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9. its perfectly reasonable that Obama's people would talk to Blagos people about the seat
What is unreasonable about Obama offering his opinion on who should take his seat????

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:31 PM
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17. thank you
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:52 PM
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32. indeed it is. But now there is interest inspinning that contact as evil partisan
smoke and back rooms/ The cynical and the conservative ratfuckers are drooling for tidbits.

yuk
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:32 PM
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21. It is ridiculous
Given that it was a mere few weeks after the election and the Obama group was trying to get into their offices, negotiate with the White House about the transition, the economy was collapsing, Cabinet positions were being sorted out and then there was the constant Clinton, Clinton, Clinton mantra by the press.

Given that backdrop, and I bet I left out a few things like other protocol taking up Axelrod's time - he made a mistake about exactly what was being said and by whom regarding the senate seat. BFD.

I'll repeat - it's ridiculous. But when you want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, this is what happens. I keep thinking of last weeks SNL bit - "He keeps it cool". He knows it's ridiculous and I have confidence that Obama will handle it well because there's no "there" there. And the press had better watch out. Obama can make them irrelevant, one pencil pusher at a time.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:24 PM
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4. I thought Obama said that no one on his team knew of any deal
or was approached about a deal, and that they would disclose any conversations that did happen in a few days. But you're right, they are confusing me because they aren't paying attention. And when Shuster was talking to Anna Kornblut of the Washington Post, she repeated several of the "questions that remained unanswered", but a couple were ones that Obama DID answer today! Maybe they should take better notes.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:24 PM
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6. You are wrong about what Obama said.
"I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I am confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this seat. I think the materials release by the U.S. attorney reflect that fact," Obama said. "I've asked my team to gather the facts of any contacts with the governor's office about this vacant seat, so that we can share them with you over the next few days."

Later, Obama added: "But what I'm absolutely certain of is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat. That, I'm absolutely certain of. That would be a violation of everything that this campaign has been about. And that's not how we do business."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/obama-blagojevich-press-conference.html

What a waste of outrage.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:25 PM
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7. Schuster is a tool
Remember his breathless reporting of how Fitzgerald was going to indict Rove ANY MINUTE NOW?????

He's almost always wrong about everything.

I see him and that hideous dye job (so reminiscent of Tom DeLay), and I change the channel.

You do the same. They're not worthy of us.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:25 PM
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8. Shuster is right. Watch the press conference again.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:27 PM
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12. I will watch it again. My point remains that Obama has stated
clearly that no deal was made with Blago. Schuster is saying that that isn't sufficient and that's why he's a sorry SOB.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:28 PM
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13. link to it
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:30 PM
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15. Thanks. I'll watch it again. Perhaps my view of things is skewed because
I'm sick to death of this msm bullshit-a-thon!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:28 PM
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14. David is likely reporting what he's being told to report.
By his corporate masters: General Electric/M$NBC...they love Repukes and the no-bid military contracts that the Repukes award to them.

It was my understanding that Schuster is not a Republican. In fact, more often than not, David goes after the Repukes when they tell lies. I think David is a Progressive more than a "Conservative."
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:30 PM
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16. Integrity. 'Nuff said. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:31 PM
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18. Morning JOe is where you hear the talking points for the day
I heard the same lines after the press conference today that
I heard this morning.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:31 PM
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19. Ask Fitzgerald: there is no hint there, there is no there, there.
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 12:34 PM by bluedawg12
Media feeding frenzy at the media zoo.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:32 PM
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20. As of late, David has done some fine reporting. This surprises me.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:38 PM
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25. see post 22
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:34 PM
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23. Just remember this:


Trust him. He's smart.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:39 PM
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27. Check closely. I listened to Obama's presser too. He said HE didn't have
any conversations with the Governor, and he was POSITIVE noone in his team had anything to do with any deals. He aso said he has his entire team checking to see if there were ANY conversations with the Governor, and what they were about. He would get back to the press in a few days with the results of that research.

I really don't think David was picking on Obama. If you think about it, don't you think it makes sense for the gov. to at least have contacted Emanuel to ask things like "do you have anyone in mind?", or "Do you folks have a preference?". I don't believe there's been anything untoward happening inside the Obama team, but in fairness, it would be ODD if Emanuel, Derbin, or any of the other people from Ill. wouldn't have at least spoke to someone in the gov's office about SOMETHING!

Relax and stop being so defensive and accusatory. If you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at the stupid Gov. of Ill!!!!
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:45 PM
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29. I just watched Shuster carefully, and I thought he was fine
(when doing this story again)...said that Obama specifically said that he is certain that he nor his staff knew or engaged in any deals, and is focusing mostly on Blago. I think he's been a vast improvement over Gregory on 1600 Pa Ave, but they should probably shelf that show and just start a new one.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:31 PM
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34. Welcome to the Clintons' world. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:32 PM
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35. they are twisting Obama's words.
the media can eff off.
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