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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:56 AM
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i heard the phrase "Crackdown on the Homeless" on a local news show this morning
that didn't sound right at all.

not when lots of people can become that way pretty damn quick lately.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:58 AM
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1. They meant, "Crackdown on homelessness," right?
I really hope that's what they meant.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:59 AM
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2. insofar as it relates to homeless people sleeping on CTA trains and buses
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 10:00 AM by datasuspect
this was WGN's morning news show.

no, they said crackdown on the homeless.

it seemed really inhumane the way they framed it. plenty of soundbites from CTA higher ups about round trips being forbidden.

they didn't mention the arctic cold snap we've been having.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:05 AM
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5. That's pretty messed up.
Any protests planned to challenge the CTA? I wonder how they'd react to well-dressed, respectable-looking whites riding the subway for round trips...
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:11 AM
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8. i don't use public transit anymore
but i had to a few weeks ago for a few days.

i was shocked at the number of apparently homeless people on the trains. i've never seen that before.

in the past, you might see a wayward drunk or one guy, but there were more than 5 people who stunk to high heaven and clutched all manner of small bags who were sleeping on the trains.

i cannot say for certain they were homeless, but they didn't appear to have consistent access to hygiene facilities.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:59 AM
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3. That doesn't sound very bootstrappy, though, and it's still a bootstappy Congress, WH, and media. nt
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:46 AM
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9. Nah, they probably meant those "unwashed" homeless people.
Bake
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:01 AM
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4. I saw cops arresting a "will work for food" sign holder near the interstate last week
I was so pissed off. What are they going to do, give him a ticket?

If it is illegal to be homeless how long before the debtor prisons spring up around the country? We could put a lot of people to work building and staffing prisons for bad debtors. "What are you in for man?" "student loans, you, oh medical bills, that sucks".

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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:05 AM
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6. At least that person probably had a place to stay for the night.
A horrible way to get one, though.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:09 AM
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7. ah yes... our 'civilized' society loves to put the jack boot of rightousness
right up the a** of the homeless.

Some civilization.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:05 PM
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10. Tell your city officials and media about Dignity Village in Portland Oregon
http://dignityvillage.org

I helped them organize their own self-governed encampment on unused city land several years ago.

They're doing great, have been building cob-heybail housing, have their own wind-energy turbine
for electricity to their common areas .. check it out.

I think Dignity Village also has outreach to other cities who want to try something like this.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:13 PM
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11. goddamned lazy bums! too damned lazy to work!
anyone in this country can pull themselves up by the bootstraps and be as rich as they want to be. but not if they are lazy good for nothing bums who make bad decisions and then want the rest of us to take care of them and their brats. why did they even have kids if they were just gonna end up homeless anyway? that's child abuse. lazy good for nothing miserable worthless bums!

if they didn't want to be homeless, they shouldn't have gotten laid off. or had a relative with cancer. or who got sick with whatever. or they shouldn't have let the bosses steal their pension money. lazy bums. good for nothing. it's not my fault! why should I pay?

we oughtta crack down.

and crack down hard.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 02:03 PM
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12. You got it! Euthanize them, that's the solution. We do it to homeless non-humans
And these people might as well be non-humans - they're Useless Eaters of no value to Real People.

Gas them all.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:11 PM
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17. I don't know. gas is pretty expensive.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:52 PM
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18. They could always use Zyklon B - that was cheap. And it's only a one-time expense, anyway.
They could even convert the shower room in a defunded school.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:42 PM
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20. is there any way to make them pay for their own share of the gas?
that would be the American corporate way.

that, plus a government subsidy of a few hundred thousand per "client."
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 04:56 PM
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21. oops, you're right, I completely neglected that possibility.
Probably couldn't get anything for their blood or dental fillings. Could maybe harvest organs from the kids and the ones who hadn't been parasites very long. That could help with profitability. But maybe the gas would spoil the organs. We'd have to look into that, and possibly divert the still-healthy to a different harvesting modality, low-oxy suffocation perhaps with the exhaust pumps driven by treadmill.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:02 PM
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22. now you're thinking.
who says you can't squeeze blood from a turnip?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 02:05 PM
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13. HIt 'em while they're down!. . Merry Fuckin' Christmas. . . . . .n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 02:06 PM
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14. Are they going to make it illegal to be homeless now?
Like these people really want to be homeless. Give me a break.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:57 PM
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19. We've been doing it for years now, the criminalization of poverty.
The vagrancy laws were the solution before, now we have a whole new set of laws to lock up those that do not conform to the mold.


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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 02:06 PM
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15. That's fucked up.
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 02:09 PM by Odin2005
Our society's lack of compassion towards those the honeless is disgusting. It's like people care more about them driving down property values or what not else BS then actually caring about the actual people.

There is a reason us folks here in the Upper Midwest tend progressive. With our cold winters people either helped each other or they froze to death
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 03:02 PM
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16. What're they gonna do? Give 'em all homes?
Yep, that'll show 'em. "And I better not catch you bein' all homeless again, or I'll give you ANOTHER home! Whaddaya think of that, HUH?"
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:05 PM
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23. What is wrong with our society that they feel they have to beat up
on those who have reached the bottom rung of our economic ladder, the people who have nothing, and yet they want to take that away from them too.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:07 PM
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24. People, even some who claim that they want to help, don't want to LOOK at the homeless
I dunno if it causes them guilt, or shame, or what... but I even recall a thread here where a prominent DUer was embarrassed by a homeless person that was someone they knew.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 06:42 PM
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25. It isn't even only the homeless but the
way the immigrants are treated as well, who are just as poor. The only difference is that they can work. Many of the homeless are too broken in body and spirit to hold down a job.
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