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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:42 PM
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Packin' heat at the National Park
Not to start a gun debate, but do people ALWAYS need to be armed? :think:



from ThinkProgress:



Interior Dept. overturns regulation, clearing the way for concealed, loaded firearms into national parks.

Today, the Department of Interior overturned a Reagan-era regulation, permitting loaded firearms at 388 of 391 national park sites. The decision allows guns in parks in any states with concealed carry laws, not just those that allow guns in their state parks as originally proposed. While the Department cited safety concerns as a factor, the National Park Conservation Association notes:

According to the FBIs Uniform Crime Report, there were 1.65 violent crimes per 100,000 national park visitors in 2006making national parks some of the safest places in the United States. The new regulation could increase the risk for impulse shootings of wildlife, and risk the safety of visitors and rangers. Despite the potential affect on national park wildlife and resources, the Administration did not conduct an environmental review as required by law.


The text of the rule notes that earlier, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) wrote to the Interior Dept. supporting the rule change. Check out ThinkProgresss updated report on Bushs 11th hour regulations and rule changes.


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/05/interior-guns-natio... /



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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:47 PM
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1. "Packin' heat" ?
Is that from a Jimmy Cagney movie or a Brady Campaign press release?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:48 PM
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2. Whatever you would like it to be from.....
n/t
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:57 PM
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5. You're the one who posted it...
you tell me where it came from.

I mean... I'm just guessing here, but either A or B could be true.

:shrug:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:58 PM
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6. It's actually quite a common phrase....but I'm not even going there with you.
Bonne nuit.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:12 PM
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8. So is "got my gat" and "clearing leather"...
but I've to actually hear it (or posted), from anyone that was meant to be taken seriously.

"Bonne nuit"

WTF did you just call me!?!

:wtf:
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:22 PM
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9. I prefer "hog-leg"
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:25 PM
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10. How 'bout "Skin that smoke wagon" from the movie Tombstone?
Like most gun laws, don't think this one will make much of a difference one way or the other. At least people will have the choice to carry concealed if they want.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:33 PM
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11. Roscoe!
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:49 PM
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3. Some of the thoughts on this site are soooo contradictory
We're looking into the entry of a depression. YOU, ALL OF YOU are going to need a gun. To hunt, for protection. Believe me it's easier to shoot rats with a small cal than trapping them.

The biggest cause of death in an emergency is the failure of people to recognize the emergency at all.

My motto is, in the news clips, the unarmed guy is the one that is reported dead.

The wingers are going to arm up and they are coming for your shit ... rapture or not.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:04 PM
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7. Forgot the sarcasm smiley.
I hope.
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:50 PM
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4. I understand that there is also legislation to call for open bars to be placed every 500'
along the nature trails.

I'll feel so much safer to know that just about anyone could be packing when I take my Grandson to the park.

:sarcasm:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:19 PM
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12. Where there's a possibility of getting raped or killed
Yes, it's useful to have a firearm. National Parks aren't safe havens, you know. They're just another place where people gather.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:24 PM
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13. Yeah, no shit. Take it from a Park Ranger's daughter.
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 10:24 PM by Withywindle
There has ALWAYS been tons of crime in the National Parks. My dad carried a gun (including off-duty) and wore a bulletproof vest during his whole professional life.

Gun-running, drug-running, lone whacko killer types looking for women hiking alone...National Parks have never been by definition safer than any other isolated, unlit, remote, witness-free area. (take it from a kid who grew up in one - I feel safer in crowded cities ANY night!)
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