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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:03 PM
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Have YOU done your part to help out "the Big Three" this year?
I bought a 2008 Dodge Charger R/T back in January to replace a big Dodge Ram 4x4 3/4 ton 2500 P/U which was a gas guzzler and to become my primary car instead of my 13 year old Z28.

The only thing I don't absolutely love about this car is the payments. (Well also I prefer XM to Sirius but...)



Mine is in black, has the spoiler, the 345HP hemi and the MyGig Infotainment system. (Bluetooth handsfree phone, GPS with traffic alerts, Sirius/AM/FM radio, MP3/CD/DVD player with hard drive.)

It gets 23 MPG on regular gas as opposed to the truck which got 12. (The Camaro gets 30+ but requires premium gas).

Sound off if you bought a new car from GM, Ford or Dodge or one of their subsidiaries this year...

:patriot:

Doug D.
Orlando, FL
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:05 PM
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1. Nope! I drive a Honda Civic, 35 mpg and it's 15 years old.
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:05 PM by Breeze54
Nice looking car you have there! Enjoy those payments!! :P
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:07 PM
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3. They are steep ($600/month) but I plan to keep the car until the wheels fall off..
I bought the Camaro Z28 new in 1995 and still have it on the road after 188,000 miles 13 years later and it gets 30 mpg on the highway, 17 in the city and is a lot of fun to drive (convertible..)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:18 PM
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26. Mine's a hard top convertable, 5 speed and is a blast to drive!
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:18 PM by Breeze54


:hi:

$600.00 a MONTH!?! You'll have to live in it, if the economy
gets any worse, let alone waiting for the wheels to fall off!! :D
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:07 PM
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2. I'd like to help them out...
Which way did they come in?


Thank you thank you I'm here all week!



I drive Toyotas, and have driven nothing else since 1980, to answer your question.

:P
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:09 PM
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6. I drove Mazdas in the late 80's and early 90's and then a VW Rabbit
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:09 PM by ddeclue
too many repairs too hard to work on - I hate front wheel drive transverse mounted engine cars. I hate doing CV joint/half axle replacements too. I had to learn more about fixing cars that I never wanted to know driving Mazdas. VW is OK I guess but still hard to work on.

Doug D.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:08 PM
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4. No, I haven't
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:09 PM
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8. Aren't you ashamed? Don't you feel remorse for what you've done?
Well, all I can say is poor big 3.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:12 PM
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14. Whatever
You're just a shill for Big Big Three.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:13 PM
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17. LOL!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:08 PM
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5. Not a damned thing, I might look at some of their products late this month, but I make no promises..
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:09 PM
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7. No, but we own two Ford products and one GM
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:13 PM
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18. But what have you done for them lately?
Shame on you.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:19 PM
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28. Please be nice..this was supposed to be a positive thread...
:)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:20 PM
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31. And here I thought my evasive reply would slide
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:10 PM
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9. I don't buy new cars. I bought a used Ford this year. I suppose that doesn't count. n/t
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:10 PM by Zing Zing Zingbah
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:11 PM
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11. Indirectly...
you are keeping up the resale value and thereby making new car buyers more confident in their own purchase...

:)
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:11 PM
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10. No, they don't make a product I want.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:12 PM
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12. Be specific:
What do you want???

Doug D.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:14 PM
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19. An electric car of quality
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:16 PM
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23. Same here, but I also want it to serve draft beer from the dashboard.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:23 PM
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37. Good idea, an electric car can't hurt anyone, so may as well get rid of DUI legislation!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:16 PM
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24. OK..
right now NOBODY has a quality electric car for sale in the USA including the Japanese mfg.

The last attempt at this was the GM EV1 in the 1990's.

GM will be selling the Volt in 2010.

If you can't wait for the Volt, you can have aftermarket conversions done on existing hybrids to add extra battery packs so that they can go further as all electrics.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:21 PM
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32. Untrue, you can get decent electric cars, they just aren't mass produced
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:22 PM
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36. OK..but I'd rather convert a mass produced hybrid personally.
It will be easier to find parts 10 years from now unless you own your own machine shop and are an engineer.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:24 PM
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39. But see, that's why I've not bought anything from them.... they aren't selling it
Why should I have to convert another car? If I want a T-bone steak I don't buy a porterhouse and convert it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:27 PM
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43. Because it MAKES MORE SENSE to do so...
Remember the Yugo.. they disappeared and nobody could find parts for them..

Good luck with your Ineverheardofit brand car...

I have a friend who has a DeLorean - nice car but I bet it's a pain to have it worked on when there is no DeLorean Motors anymore.

Doug d.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:36 PM
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48. If I need a part, I'll go to dynasty and get it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:38 PM
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50. Dynasty???
:shrug:

Is this a Canadian car parts store???

Never heard of it..

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:44 PM
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54. It's the maker of that car
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:54 PM
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55. OK but as I said you are counting on them not going out of business
which isn't really a good plan with a minor car company like this.

Also consider nobody will know how to work on your car unless you take it back to the factory.

This is where an aftermarket conversion of a hybrid has your no name car beat.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:55 PM
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56. Well, as it stands now, the big three are likely to go under before they do
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boozepusher Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:12 PM
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13. Not yet,
but I did pay my taxes this year. That should be helping them soon. :puke:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:12 PM
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15. I own three GM's and one Honda, but no corporate jets,
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:13 PM by Lastlaughin08
All bought and paid for some time ago, and all are in tip-top shape.

I'll keep each of them until they die.

After that, we'll see what the situation is at the time.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:12 PM
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16. I couldn't possibly justify that
Thousands and thousands of dollars just for a personal conveyance? Nope, I couldnt do it. Not as long as I can still walk, or take public transit, or pedal my bicycle. Far too extravagant.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:14 PM
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20. You must live in a big city or small village in the Northeast.
Most Americans have no such choice.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:19 PM
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61. Well...
MOST Americans can't afford a $600 car payment, but you got no problem with that.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:16 PM
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21. Yes, I paid $540 to have my 1994 Caravan repaired.
Broken fuel pump. 209K miles on it now. Since I've been laid off 2 months ago, that pretty much ended my plans to buy a "newer" car.

Oh, btw, watched the entire "who killed the electric car" and I figure that the primary reason GM killed it was that they couldn't make enough money from the ongoing repair work on the car. Combustion engines were simply a *lot* more profitable over the expected life of the vehicle.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:18 PM
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27. I saw that too.. it was good.
They'll work to make sure things fail on the new electrics in a reasonably regular basis to insure repair revenue I'm sure.

Doug D.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:16 PM
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22. nope--no money.... but if i had the money i`d buy this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEzVnlVyAlI&feature=rela...


sadly i`m to old for the ladies


i drove a 2006 dodge rental..i hated it. if i had the money i`d buy a first generation intrepid pushrod 6...dam good car expect the transmissions. 25-30mpg and had 245,000 miles and not a tick from the engine. after the second trans we gave up.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:25 PM
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40. Dear Lord... what does that have 500 HP??
Mine is only 345. They had a 425 HP version but the gas mileage was even less than 23 and at the time gas price was a primary consideration in my trade-in.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:41 PM
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51. i sold a 1972 Pontiac formula 400 with open hood and side exhaust
in 76 because gasoline went to 75ct a gallon. 10-12 mpg cause i drove the car to the edge
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:18 PM
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25. that's a beautiful car!
i will be doing my part in the next few years as my finances improve. currently have an '02 Mustang. i love the new challenger. i hope to find an excellent American vehicle to replace my current one. go UAW!
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:19 PM
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29. you're kidding me, right?
I got out of the construction industry in March of this year, I took a 400.00 a week drop in earnings to have a basically sound job during this downturn. Now, out of $2200.00 a month, comes a mortgage payment of 600.00, utitilities, gas for a 98 chev 2500 (paid for two years now), 250.00 a month homeowners insurance, 200.00 a month food. My wife picks up some of the other incidentals, like her gas, the health insurance, and her credit card bills (after health insurance she brings in 1400.00 a month.). I don't see myself buying a 30K car in the near future, or the recent past.

Hope you can keep it, and keep up with the entire economy.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:21 PM
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33. I've been unemployed 10 weeks this year myself too...
Bought the car in January after 5 years at the same job and feeling safe about it...

If I knew then that this would happen I wouldn't have done it but gotta stick with it now and make the best of the situation..

Fortunately I'm finally re-employed and hopefully will stay that way for the foreseeable future.

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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:20 PM
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30. So now, not only must we shop to be patriotic...
we must shop for a car. And not just any car. It must be new, not used. And made by one of the "big three", regardless of where it was actually made. Because we owe them. Do I understand correctly?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:22 PM
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35. And not only must we buy this car, but we must also be happy to have our government give...
$25,000,000,000 in unsecured loans to the companies.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:25 PM
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41. You can do whatever you want to do
It's a free country.

Enjoy!

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:25 PM
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42. Yes, it's patriotic to support the people who shipped jobs to other countries.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:28 PM
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44. No you overstate the case and take this thread FAR too seriously..
:)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:21 PM
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34. not this year, but bought 2 new cars last year
One a Ford product and the other a Honda product.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:24 PM
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38. I don't think so. I bought a used Ford...
Ranger this year. I think most of it was made in Canada...
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:29 PM
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45. No, not until they offer an unlimited BJ option
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:30 PM by Lastlaughin08
Along with all the other must-have accessories.

Otherwise, not interested right now.]

:P
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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:30 PM
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46. Just an oil filter for my Sable.
Sorry.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:35 PM
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47. Motorcraft thanks you sir!
:patriot:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:37 PM
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49. Yes - I drove a Prius!
I own one, because of this crazy ass decision to drive something responsible in 2003.

And maybe the Big 3 can take a lesson from this - gas costs MONEY!!! Who woulda thunk?

The only reason I support any kind of bailout is the UAW. Other than that , the CEO's can FUCK THEMSELVES GENTLY WITH A CHAINSAW.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:41 PM
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52. No. Why the hell should I?
:shrug:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:42 PM
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53. No. I won't buy a car new, and they didn't make anything the fit what I wanted.
Had I the money, I'd buy a new Vette, though. A ZR1 if I had THAT money.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:58 PM
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57. I paid my taxes
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:58 PM
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58. I couldn't buy a new car if they cost $5000.
I would have bought a Chevy HHR if I had any money.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:59 PM
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59. Picked up one of these.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:11 PM
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60. Both my cars are more than 12 yrs old. I cant afford a new one. I'm
glad someone can.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:28 PM
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62. Nope, and I never will buy from the "Big Three" unless their cars improve
I have owned a '88 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais which was in the shop more than it was on the road and ditto for a '98 Ford Windstar. My first car was a '79 Toyota Corolla; ran it into the ground with no problems whatsoever. I currently own a '94 Geo Prizm (Geo used to be a subsidiary of Cheverolet) which has a Toyota engine under the hood. I'll never get rid of that car. I also own a '07 Toyota Matrix. I love both cars and neither has yet to give me any problems whatsoever.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:36 PM
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63. Foriegn cars are "walmarting" the big 3!
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