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gogoplata Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:07 PM
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Hillary faces more abuse


Question No. 63 asks that applicants "please provide any other information ... that could ... be a possible source of embarrassment to you, your family, or the President-Elect."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/04/o...

For a while there this afternoon, President-elect Barack Obama's immensely talented chief speechwriter, 27-year-old Jon Favreau, might have been pondering how to address that question.

That's when some interesting photos of a recent party he attended -- including one where he's dancing with a life-sized cardboard cut-out of secretary of state-designate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and another where he's placed his hand on the cardboard former first lady's chest while a friend is offering her lips a beer -- popped up on Facebook for about two hours. The photos were quickly taken down -- along with every other photo Favreau had of himself on the popular social networking site, save for one profile headshot.

Asked about the photos, Favreau, who was recently appointed director of speechwriting for the White House, declined comment. A transition official said that Favreau had "reached out to Senator Clinton to offer an apology."
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:17 PM
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27. Heh - that's the first thing that occured to me, too.
Great minds, and all that. :fistbump:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:10 PM
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2. It was the beer and his cardboard fetish acting. nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:11 PM
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3. Well, there you go. Time for a new speech writer.
There's a consequence for behaving like an asshole.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:18 PM
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8. Wanna bet?
No consequences here.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:30 PM
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12. Sure. He'll be gone in less than 10 days.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:49 PM
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17. Yer on!
What say we bet about um, seventy-five million dollars? To be paid in shiny new dimes...

What say?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:51 PM
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18. I love dimes. Pound for pound the most valuable of all coins. It's a bet.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:59 PM
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21. (damn... I hope my Sparklett's bottle has seventy five million dollars in it...) n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:04 PM
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23. ..
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:20 PM
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9. Naw, he's in and a little embarrassed. If there were consequences both Hill and Joe would be gone.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:46 PM
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15. Agreed. I'm all for rough vetting, but this is trivia.
A couple guys posing for a funny photo. I know people who've posed for similarly silly photos with a cardboard Obama.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:11 PM
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4. I just thought of a way Hillary can pay off her debts...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:24 PM
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10. If you mean what I think that you mean...............
Well, even if you don't, just for the hell of it.....

:spank:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:12 PM
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5. Not only are the primaries over, but so is the election. Get over it.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:15 PM
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6. SHOCKING!!!
Young, drunk guys acting like young, drunk guys, with a piece of cardboard!!!

Alright, everyone: here is our bright, shiny and new outrage thing for the day. Have at it. Black flag all the way: no quarter expected or given, no prisoners taken.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:24 PM
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11. If that was any other cardboard cutout woman, they'd be doing the same thing.
There were lots of cardboard Hillary cutouts--even my caucus precinct had one (and one of Obama). Hell, if I were drunk at a party with an Obama cutout, I may have joked around in a similar way, 'cause he's kinda hot.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:41 PM
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13. Oh geez, this reminds me of college frat parties.
The guy behaved like an immature jerk, but then again, what 27 year old doesn't?

I'm not going to get my panties in a twist over his adolescent behavior, but I'm glad that he apologized to Hillary.

On the other hand, the transition team could have worded the following a tad better. I think that Favreau has done enough "reaching out" for quite a while:

A transition official said that Favreau had "reached out to Senator Clinton to offer an apology."

:eyes:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:46 PM
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14. Oooh, a shit-stirrer
I got ya.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:48 PM
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16. Dios mio!
:eyes:

I'm sure Hillary Clinton will reject the SOS job now!!!!


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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:53 PM
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19. How about a cardboard Michelle Obama? Still funny?
Still just frat boy antics?

Just wondering how blase the posters in this thread would be if the cardboard cut-out were a woman whom I presume many on this board respect.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:02 PM
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22. You are right about that one.
People here would be screaming bloody murder that it was not only sexist, but also racist. On the other hand, when it comes to Hillary anything goes........

The guy behaved like a jerk, but no more so than other drunk 20 something guys at a party.

:eyes:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:06 PM
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24. I'd expect the person who perpetrated the boobie-cup to sincerely
apologize to Michelle for copping a cardboard feel. People do silly things to entertain themselves and others. It's doubtful he'd ever grope her for real.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:27 PM
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32. I would dance with a cardboard Michelle Obama
:)

You should see what I did with the cardboard Bush cutout and one of my older friends home :rofl:


Get over yourself already...
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:29 PM
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34. Yeah, that's the same thing.
I asked a question. You don't like it...that's what ignore is for.

I notice you didn't answer my question.



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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 12:54 PM
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20. Would ya please quit picking on millionaires!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:15 PM
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26. What does her net worth have to do with some guy
groping her cardboard cut out????

:shrug:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:25 PM
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47. I don't care what happens to rich people or anything that anyone does to their picture or image.
They are not gods to be worshiped and fawned over.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:14 PM
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25. LOL!! ... big deal.
:beer: :party:













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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:19 PM
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28. Ahhhh, nope it's not the same.
None of these cut outs were groped and plied with booze.

:evilgrin:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:26 PM
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30. Nope. It's all the same.
To me. :D



Tra la la, la la, la la la laaaa!


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:29 PM
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33. Yup.
:pals: :thumbsup:

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:32 PM
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35. How dare they make a mockery of the power elite!


Do we even know if they washed their fingers before doing that?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:56 PM
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41. Hmmmm,
Me thinks that you must be the guy plying her cut out with beer. I remember those frat parties at UF. Well, some I remember, some are a bit foggy or a total blackout. Were you ever in a frat?

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:05 PM
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45. Never was, but I used to raid their parties when I was a kid and drink their beer.
I grew up behind fraternity row. Most of the college frats, 5 to 10 yrs my senior, seemed really really stupid to me. They had horrible taste in music, were incapable of dancing, holding their liquor, or behaving like human beings, and I laughed at them to their faces while drinking their beer for free. :beer:

Good times! :D :party:




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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:17 PM
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46. Where was this?
I made a mistake, initially I thought that you were swampg8r who also went to UF. Wrong critter.......

As for frat parties, yes the guys are mainly dumb but some of the parties were also a lot of fun. Though, like young guys everywhere, their main goal was to get drunk and to get laid (in that order). A lot emphasis was placed in trying to get the girls drunk enough that they would agree to sleep with them. That's why the photo reminded me of a frat party, same kind of behavior.

:7
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:59 PM
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42. Never mind my previous post,
you are the wrong swamp critter. Unless.......... Did you also attend UF?

:eyes:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:54 PM
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40. Plied with booze?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:00 PM
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43. Well, I never said that there hadn't been some self plying...........
:silly:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:33 PM
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36. Hey, Swampy. Let's see a photoshop of the pic in the OP with Michele Obama.
in place of Hillary Clinton.

G'head. Let's see it in this thread. It should be a hoot.

Really, it's not big deal at all. I'm just curious how it would look.




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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:44 PM
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37. There you go. Get crackin'.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:47 PM
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38. Yeah. I didn't think so.
Thanks anyway.

As I said, no big deal.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:51 PM
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39. 'Didn't think' so what?... This is your fantasy.
Why not complete it here for all to see?

No big deal, right?

I look forward to see what you have in mind. :)




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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:00 PM
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50. I've seen you whip out 'shops at a "moment's notice," yet not this time.
You've displayed your Photoshop acumen time and again and have received praise and kudos for doing so as you mock and ridicule our "enemies."

Yet, even with all that, I didn't expect you'd be able to do such using the image of a respected figure on DU to show how it's "no big deal" or just all in "fun" when to do so might, just might show a wee bit of a double standard as to what and/or who is acceptable as subject of ridicule and mock-worthy.

I've not ever claimed those 'shop skills nor displayed them. I had hoped since you were the resident guru, you'd perhaps be interested in showing how changing the "subject" of an image changes the acceptance of the image. I had hoped, but I truly didn't think you would. Therefore, "I didn't think so." Not fantasy; just observation.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:13 PM
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52. I won't illustrate your Straw Man argument, but I will however, prove you wrong right now
in your assertion about me. :spank:

I 'whipped' this out for another DUer:



If you'd like to see Michelle Obama in a cut-out with a drunk young man, then I suggest you visit the College Republicans and ask them to pose for a photo. Then you can post it in this thread. I promise I will react the same way as I did regarding the other photos posted here.

:patriot:


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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:15 PM
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53. M'kay. No problem.
As I said, I don't have those skills. I'd be months working on it or I'd have done it myself.

As you said, no big deal.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:18 PM
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54. Ask me again after finals are over.
;) :D



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:22 PM
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29. Favreau will get along fine with Hillary


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 01:27 PM
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31. Poor Nell
:nopity:
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:02 PM
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44. Please forgive me
I laughed immediately when I saw the picture. I love and respect Hillary but I don't know why I laughed. I couldn't help it, I'm sorry. After all it's only cardboard, atleast he reached out to apologize. I've done regrettable things drunk before that's why I only drink once in a while.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:50 PM
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48. Responsible DUer's
Please alert.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 02:51 PM
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49. There will be no having fun in Washington, DC!
Fun is forbidden!

:eyes:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 03:04 PM
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51. The worst, abhorrent part of this was the WP publishing...... it's
meaningless, incendiary crap.

It makes Hillary look really, really bad.

And it might just get that poor young man fired....are there really that many of us who in our 20s NEVER did anything stupid amongst friends???? Geesh!

Is Favreau stupid for uploading this........yes.
Did he apologize for it.....................yes.
Is he an eloquent and brilliant young man...yes.
Does the WP have any business putting this out there as a serious news org...........NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:01 PM
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55. locking
OP is no longer with us.
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