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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 10:58 AM
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2fer: Page Six trades Keith for Tweety. & the nutcase of the BALDWINs won't leave OBAMA now
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/11192008/gossip/pagesix/castrata_phobia_139472.htm

'CASTRATA' PHOBIA


MSNBC host Chris Matthews' dislike of Hillary Clinton stems from a deep-rooted fear of strong women, according to a New York clinical psychologist. Deborah Goldstein read our piece yesterday, which reported how Matthews slammed Clinton for being a "soap opera." She wrote us claiming: "Matthews is extremely threatened by Hillary Clinton and powerful women in general. He is not gay, but the guy is not interested in women, they don't excite him or send tingles up his leg. Once during the primaries, he was showing footage of Barack Obama and John Edwards strutting around a stage together, and Matthews . . . exclaimed, 'Look at the physicality of them!' Guys are his thing politically, and I believe that unconsciously (or not) he fears that a strong woman like Hillary has the power to make him a castrata" - a reference to Matthews once calling Hillary's male supporters "castratos in the eunuch chorus."



http://www.nypost.com/seven/11192008/gossip/pagesix/obamas_ok_after_all__139468.htm

OBAMA'S OK AFTER ALL!


STEPHEN Baldwin was just kidding about the promise he made on Fox News to leave the country if Barack Obama was elected president. "The liberal Democrats who didn't get that I was joking need to lighten up," the born-again Christian told Page Six. "Obama is obviously talented and intelligent, and I have great respect for the man. He's got my full support, and I'm gonna be praying for him and his administration." Baldwin, who hosts tomorrow's fund-raiser for 146 Love, a charity that seeks to end Asia's child-sex trade, still won't support gay marriage: "If they legalize gay marriage in all 50 states in my lifetime, I'll get a Billy Ray Cyrus tattoo on my butt to go with the Hannah Montana one."

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Yesterday's prequel: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4489553

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/11182008/gossip/pagesix/har...

'HARDBALL' GUY DERAILS HILLARY


.... An avowed Clinton lover who was sitting next to Matthews reports: "He was in business class wearing a red baseball hat that said Penn on the back, and the fat (bleep) fell asleep on the train and snored with his mouth open."

During the ride to DC, Matthews awoke from his nap. A fellow passenger asked him, "What's the news tomorrow?" - to which Matthews loudly started talking about President-elect Barack Obama possibly picking Hillary as his secretary of state.

"I don't understand it," Matthews bellowed. "Why would he pick her? I thought we were done with the Clintons. She'll just use it to build her power base. It's Machiavellian. And then we'll have Bill Clinton, too. I thought Obama didn't want drama. He's already got (chief of staff Rahm) Emanuel and (transition team leader John) Podesta. He'll have even more drama with her.

"She's just a soap opera. If he doesn't pick her, everyone will say she's been dissed again, we'll have to live through that again."

Matthews seems to be playing both sides of the fence. The host, who apologized to Clinton last year for claiming she got where she was because "her husband messed around," said on-air last Friday: "Look, I think that since she lost the fight for the nomination, (Clinton) has been not just a good soldier, she has sang the tune of (Obama). She's been illustrious, she's been admirable . . . her spirit seems to be with him." ....

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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:11 AM
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1. I don't hate Hillary, but can't anyone dislike a woman without being sexist?
Matthews is an old fogey, so I'm not surprised when he commits a faux pas like complimenting a female guest on her looks. Old men are always doing that, and it doesn't strike me as all that unforgivable. It's clear he really doesn't like Hillary, `but I don't see why anyone who criticizes a female politician, be it Hillary or Palin, is instantly tarred as a sexist. It doesn't strike me as helpful to women if everyone's afraid to say anything mean about them. As for Palin, if she were a man, there'd be nothing left of "him" but a skeleton by now, after the press got done. And regarding Hillary, I really don't think the press would have been any nicer to Bill, say, if he somehow ran again.

What I mean is this: Can't Matthews just hate Hillary for who she is, or for not hiring him in '92 or whatever, without being a sexist? Or is it inherently sexist for him to hate her?
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:14 PM
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2. Matthews' dislike of Hillary isn't so much an issue. It's his sexist commentary.
Matthews, Buchanan, Barnacle, all those guys, are old school. They will eventually die off. But, in the meantime, we need to speak out against sexist and offensive rhetoric. It's easy to send MSNBC e-mails and let them know you don't appreciate a sexist comment; I do it almost once a week! HA!
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