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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:29 AM
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Warning: PNAC Is Back! (Guess Who They Want To Help Them Regain Power?) & Bush Wants To Write A Book
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 11:31 AM by ihavenobias
Thanks to Hissyspit for posting this short video explaining (hilariously IMO) that the Project for a New American Century is back.

This is the group of neocons that somehow hijacked the Republican Party (maybe hijacked is too kind a word, depends on your perspective) and convinced them to be extra crazy on foreign policy. You know, invading countries that didn't attack us, etc.

You'd think they'd have gotten the message by now that we collectively and generally don't WANT to keep invading these countries, but they haven't, and they're looking to make a comeback behind an "interesting" person.

PS---While a potential neocon comeback isn't good news, at least we can take comfort in the fact that a top Republican donor is going bankrupt. And if that doesn't cheer you up just consider that George Bush wants to write a book. What kind of book do you think it'll be?

BONUS Question: If you like Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, John Cusack, Bernie Sanders, Jonathon Alter, David Sirota, Margaret Cho, Marcy Wheeler or Darcy Burner, why haven't you checked out the new show Meet The Bloggers yet?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:37 AM
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1. They never went away in the first place, did they???
The Conservatives have the Media doing their talking points.
"This was not about Conservatism" This was about an unpopular
President and a financial crisis. "This is not about Left V Right
It is about Right v Wrong." Guess who they think is wrong---you guessed
it --Democrats.

We had best keep an eye on the conservatives in our own party.

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:43 AM
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2. Actually, they kinda did if you watch the video. They shut down their main website and
now it's back up.

Also, I agree that the Republicans learned all the wrong lessons from this election.

And they're trying to portray Bush as The Lone Gunman.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:51 AM
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5. Yes! They want Sarah Palin because she'll be even easier to control than George Bush!
SCARY.

:hide:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:56 AM
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8. The NeoCons are the pig and Palin is the lipstick n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:30 PM
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17. Well said n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:36 PM
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23. Agreed n/t
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:44 AM
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3. k&r
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:46 AM
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4. It wasn't just neocons
Will Marshall, cofounder of DLC, was a PNAC signator.

Damn the DLC!
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:55 AM
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7. Chuck Schumer, too...
Original 25 PNAC Signatories

Elliott Abrams
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett
Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula Dobriansky
Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg
Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan
Zalmay Khalilzad
Lewis Scooter Libby
Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle
Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen
Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld
Vin Weber
George Weigel
Paul Wolfowitz

Additional PNAC Signatories

Morton Abramowitz
Gordon Adams
Ken Adelman
Urban Ahlin
Madeleine K. Albright
Richard V. Allen
Giuliano Amato
Mark A. Anderson
Uzi Arad
Richard L. Armitage
Timothy Garton Ash
Anders Aslund
Ronald Asmus
Andrew Y. Au
Maureen Aung-Thwin
Nina Bang-Jensen
Rafael L. Bardaji
Carolyn Bartholomew
Wladyslaw Bartoszewski
Arnold Beichman
Peter Beinart
Jeffrey Bell
Jeffrey Bergner
Robert L. Bernstein
George Biddle
Carl Bildt
Daniel Blumenthal
John Bolton
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Rudy Boshwitz
Pascal Bruckner
Mark Brzezinski
William F. Buckley, Jr
Reinhard Buetikofer
Janusz Bugajski
Buster C. Glosson (USAF Ret),
Michael Butler
Martin Butora
Daniele Capezzone
Per Carlsen
Gunilla Carlsson
Frank Carlucci
Linda Chavez
Steven C. Clemons
Seth Cropsey
Ivo H. Daalder
Helle Dale
Massimo D'Alema
Dennis DConcini
Pavol Demes
Larry Diamond
Peter Dimitrov
James Dobbins
Thomas Donnelly
Nicholas Eberstadt
Robert Edgar
Uffe Elleman-Jensen
Amitai Etzioni
Lee Feinstein
Edwin J. Feulner, Jr.
Jeffrey L. Fiedler
Michele Flournoy
Hillel Fradkin
Aaron Friedberg
Frank Gaffney
Peter Galbraith
Jeffrey Gedmin
Sam Gejdenson
Robert S. Gelbard
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Bronislaw Geremek
Carl Gershmann
Marc Ginsberg
Andre Glucksmann
Merle Goldman
Philip Gordon
Daniel Goure
Istvan Gyarmati
Morton Halperin
Pierre Hassner
Vaclav Havel
John Herfferman
Charles Hill
Richard C. Holbrooke
James Hooper
Toomas Ilves
Martin S. Indyk
Bruce P. Jackson
Eli S. Jacobs
Michael Joyce
Frederick Kagan
Robert Kagan
Max M. Kampelman
Adrian Karatnycky
Penn Kemble
Craig Kennedy
Paul Kennedy
Col. Robert Killebrew (USA, Ret)
Glenys Kinnock
Lane Kirklan
Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
Harold Hongju Koh
Bernard Kouchner
Peter Kovler
Jerzy Kozminski
Louis Kraar
van Krastev
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol
Girts Valdis Kristovskis
Ludger Kuehnhardt
Mart Laar
Mark Lagon
Anthony Lake
Vytautas Landsbergis
Stephen Larrabee
John Lehman
Lewis E. Lehrman
Mark Leonard
Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger
Tod Lindberg
James Lindsay
Perry Link
Bette Bao Lord
Rich Lowry
Connie Mack
Christopher Makins
Tom Malinowski
James Mann
Yu Mao-chun
Mary Beth Markey
Will Marshall
Margarita Mathiopoulos
Clifford May
Sen. John McCain
Michael McFaul
Daniel McKivergan
Matteo Mecacci
Mark Medish
Edwin Meese III
Thomas O. Melia
Saah E. Mendelson
Michael Mertes
Ilir Meta
Adam Michnik
Derek Mitchell
Richard Morningstar
Joshua Muravchik
Klaus Naumann
Wing C. Ng
Steven J. Nider
Dietmar Nietan
James O'Brien
Michael O'Hanlon
Janusz Onyszkiewicz
Mackubin Thomas Owens
Wayne Owens
Cem Ozdemir
Can Paker
Mark Palmer
Martin Peretz
Richard Perle
Ralph Peters
Friedbert Pflueger
Daniel Pipes
Danielle Pletka
Norman Podhoretz
John Edward Porter
Florentino Portero
Barry R. McCaffrey (Gen. USA, Ret)
Samantha Ravich
Anusz Reiter
Sophie Richardson
Robert H. Scales (USA, Ret)
Peter Rodman
Alex Rondos
Jim Rosapepe
Dennis Ross
Kenneth Roth
Jacques Rupnik
Eberhard Sandschneider
Randy Scheunemann
Christian Schmidt
Gary Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr.
Charles Schumer, Senator
Simon Serfaty
Stephen Sestanovich
John Shattuck
Sin-Ming Shaw
Richard H. Shultz
Radek Sikorski
Stefano Silvestri
Martin Simecka
Paul Simon
Walter Slocombe
Gary Smith
Abraham Sofaer
Henry Sokolski
Stephen J. Solarz
Helmut Sonnenfeldt
James B. Steinberg
Leonard Sussman
John J. Sweeney
William Howard Taft IV
Dick Thornburgh
Gry Titley
John Tkacik
Helga Flores Trejo
Ed Turner
Karl-Theodor von zu Guttenberg
Ivan Vejvoda
Sasha Vondra
Arthur Waldron
Cleste Wallander
Malcolm Wallop
James Webb
Ruth Wedgood
Caspar Weinberger
Kenneth Weinstein
Richard Weitz
Paul Weyrich
Leon Wieseltier
Chris Williams
Jennifer Windsor
Marshall Wittmann
R. James Woolsey
Minky Worden
Larry Wortzel
Dov Zakheim
Robert B. Zoellick



http://www.congressunderfire.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show...

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:35 PM
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13. Hopefully we'll see all those names on arrest warrants a few months from now.



Wouldn't that be nice.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:40 PM
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32. no way should these criminals be able to re group again
they are our homegrown terrorists.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:37 PM
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35. That would be a great day for America... ranking right up there with 11-04-08
:hi:

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:40 PM
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37. Madeline Albright?
I am only slightly surprised.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:30 PM
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22. Schumer ran off the rails a long while back + recently gave us Mukasey ...!!
Or maybe he began to feel confident in revealing who he really is...???
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:40 PM
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36. Yep, he really pushed Mukasey on us, didn't he?
It amazes me that people can't see what has become of our government. It's totally infested with operatives filled with bad intentions who wish to destroy our democracy.

Hang 'em ALL!

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:21 PM
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25. Thanks for the list n/t
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:41 PM
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38. My pleasure.... n/t
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:59 AM
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9. Lee Feinstein & Richard Holbrooke
Lee Feinstein & Richard Holbrooke
Clinton ties:

Lee Feinstein

"Hillary's foreign-policy coordinator, Lee Feinstein, a scholar at the Council on Foreign Relations, also says no threats are being made. Feinstein was brought on in August specifically to do "outreach"to bring in foreign-policy experts to counter the Obama recruitment effort. And, he says, there is no cause for jealousy: Hillary has scores of former officials from her husband's administration advising her."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/40772

Richard Holbrooke

"The main Hillary enforcer has been Richard Holbrooke, Bill Clinton's former U.N. ambassador (and an aspiring secretary of State), says a senior adviser to Obama, who would also discuss personnel matters only anonymously."

(from the list in the last post...)

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 11:55 AM
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6. oh I am so happy to hear about Adelson (Venetian Casino) going bankrupt!
He funded the nastiest RW smear jobs and donated boatloads of cash to promote foreign wars.

He is subhuman, I hope he loses absolutely everything.

Maybe someone will buy his Vegas Venetian properties and then I can go back there.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:41 PM
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29. Amen n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:19 PM
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10. K&R
:kick:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:22 PM
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11. Is Bush writing the sequel to "My Pet Goat"?
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:38 PM
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14. If justice will have anything to do about it...
Bush will be instead writing prison memoirs.

:mad:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:34 PM
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31. Yes, apparently it's a coloring book
;)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:31 PM
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12. PNACers Should Be Tried for Conspiring to Invade Iraq
and using lies to do so. The cost of their mania has killed over a million people in Iraq, American and Iraqi. It has also bankrupted our Treasury...

and I don't give a damn if a few of them are Dems. They should ALL be tried.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 03:11 PM
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41. I can't argue too much with that n/t
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:40 PM
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15. George's book: "See How George n' Dick Fucked Up the Country"
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 02:04 PM
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18. It's a pop-up book.
But none of the pop-ups actually work. Nobody could have anticipated that tab would be pulled.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:50 PM
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16. With Bush soon being unemployed, he'll have a lot of time
to learn to write. Would be good to learn to read, too.


mark
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 02:43 PM
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19. Yeah, and pigs with lipstick fly... n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:34 PM
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42. Amen n/t
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:16 PM
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20. "In what respect Charlie?"
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 03:17 PM by Seldona
They may try to make themselves politically relevant, but it will be to no avail. Repubs have been all but tossed out on their asses in the last 2 major elections. Unless we screw it up, the ball is in our court.

We may not have made 60 in the Senate, but there are other options. Isn't it ironic that George Bush and Dick Cheney worked for a Unitary Executive, only to hand the whole ball of wax over to the Democratic Party? That has got to just keep them up nights, to say the least.

:rofl:
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:26 PM
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21. K&R
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:35 PM
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24. I figured there was some reason this pig wasn't going away.
:puke: K & R
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:36 PM
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26. As Steven Colbert said to MR. Kristol...
"Hows that New American Century goin' for ya?"
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:45 PM
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27. You mean future prisoner #49823841029?
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 06:46 PM by EOO
Sorry but I hesitate to believe that PNACers do not have a shred of human decency in them.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:49 PM
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28. Someone already wrote Bush's books for him...
See "Tony and Me" and "This is War" by Dr. Parsons. Two picture-books, supposedly containing Bush's descriptions of his life, triumphs and problems for his therapist, and written, spelled and illustrated in the style of a primary school child! Recommended!
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:48 PM
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30. Well, we will just have to make sure they dont have a 'Come Back."
Keep in mind, they are out numbered and we have to work collectively to keep it that way.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:43 PM
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34. they need to be arrested.
scary bunch of people? if that is what they are.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 04:13 AM
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39. PNAC can be lethal,,,
we just have to be vigilant in regards to those people involved in the PNAC. I think of such organizations as sleeper cells, domestic terrorist.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:23 AM
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40. k&r nt.
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