Oliver Stone's "W" movie sucks!!!

[goforit]

Portrays W as dumbass but totally innocent because he is dumb.

And portrays Poppy Bush as innocent and never talking to W during his whole eight years in office.

What a misrepresentation of history!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I didn't like it either but I didn't think it was dishonest

From what I have heard, they don't have a very good relationship anymore.

[Genevieve]

2. I thought it sucked too. Put me to sleep. nt

[Mira]

6. I am embarrassed to admit, I, too fell asleep for a spell

something I believe that has never before happened to me at the movies.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. DVD MAYBE for us

we've got enough with the real deal thank you

[defendandprotect]

4. Something happened, me thinks, with Stone a bit of time back . . .

He knew well what was going on when he made JFK -- or at least he had people whose
work he based it on who knew what was going on --

Nixon had some of the fascist juices revealed -- but ended without a hard hit, as I recall.
And missed Bush involvement? Other stuff. Been a while since I saw it.

Then . . . what?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

14. "Nixon" was his last great movie - an overlooked gem, actually

U-Turn is kind of a fun romp, but everything after that is crap like "Any Given Sunday"
"WTC" did a good job at recreating a scene, but ultimately, had nothing at all to say.

[JonLP24]

23. Any Given Sunday was a great movie

It was pretty damn relevant. A young hot shot QB is loved by the press and fans, how many times in the NFL has a veteran being injured been cheered when the young college superstar QB. That is one of my favorite movies ever. Takes an inside look of relationships of the team, ego, the pressure coach's feel from owners as well as dumbass owners making dumb decisions look relocating a team or doing things for more revenue then rather what is good for the team. It also takes a look at the maturity process of a QB. The ability to learn how to read defenses and really lead your team as well as the free agent/trade market like the agent of the QB advising score in the playoffs and you can forget this team. Why bother explaining all this to? One person thinks a movie is great, one person doesn't. But as far as football movies go this one is the best, most relevant, and a good story overall compared to ANY football movie made.

[Historic NY]

5. Why would you want to watch something thats still going on...

Stone's little red wagon went off the track. Haven't we had enough of the asshat * you have to remind us with a movie.

[arcadian]

28. I don't know why people keep saying this...

n/t

[Peregrine Took]

7. Totally did a "puff piece" on fellow Yalie. n/t

[goforit]

10. OK...So I'm not going crazy.

[Miss_Underestimated]

8. It sucked. It doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the severity of all of the

calculated meanspirited inhumane tactics employed by an illegitimate occupant of the white house along with his advisors. And Josh Brolin is way too sexy to play W - too much of a "suspense of disbelief" required to lose one's self in the movie. I wish they had used the money for the film's budget to support something such as FAIR or Democracy Now instead. Oh well.

[AccessGranted]

9. Movie Stunk...Rice Looked Crazy and Boo-Hoo To W LMAO

I just couldn't stop laughing at the Rice character. I like the actress, Thandie Newton, but WTF? She looked like a spastic, drugged, constipated,android-dweeb with a mouthful of marbles who worshipped Bush and agreed with everything he said. Not saying I like her, but Rice is a highly-educated, articulate woman. This made her look nuts like her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor. I'm sorry but I couldn't stop laughing at the entire mess. Are we supposed to feel sorry for Lil W 'cause he couldn't please his big bad daddy? The movie was too jumpy and it was pretty boring. It was like one big WTF. My significant other suggested we go see it. The entire movie looked thrown together. I have to go now and smack him - haha!

[lovuian]

11. Stone just put this film out as propoganda tool

Bush needs some PR cause people HATE him....

this is HOW STUPID they are
He has stayed WAY tooo long

[Beregond2]

12. Stone is just a terrible filmmaker.

IMO, the only decent movie he ever made was "Salvador," which I believe was his first. "Platoon" was largely an excuse to film endless slo-mo sequences set to Barber's "Adagio For Strings," repeated a hundred times. It told us nothing about the particular significance of Vietnam. "Born On The Fourth of July" was the same way, never explaining what made the hero turn against that war. The entire movie built to his speech at the Democratic Convention, and then Stone didn't show it! "Alexander" was a complete mess, and totally chickened-out regarding his sexuality.

When the famous critic Pauline Kael retired, she said: "The best part is, I will never have to sit through an Oliver Stone movie again!"

Stone is just another example of how Ivy Leaguers get opportunities they don't deserve in this country. If some guy with a degree from a state college were to make as many failures and stink-bombs as Stone, he'd be reduced to bussing the Craft Services table on movie sets, not continually handed millions to throw away on more crap films.

[UndertheOcean]

16. Hear , hear , Stone is a master

remember Hanslick ?

Critics are mostly untalented morons , otherwise they would be Artists.

[Leopolds Ghost]

20. No one ever mentions the Ivy League hard (not soft) aristocracy that runs the country n/t

[justgamma]

13. Olive Oyl

Everytime Rice talked that's who I thought of. The guy behind me snored. He could have made a comedy and a lot of money, instead he made a real snooze fest.

[FloridaJudy]

15. Thanks for the heads up

I was going to go see it at the cheap twilight show tomorrow, but now I think I'll save the money and donate it to a worthy Progressive.

[Archae]

17. I told you so...

When Stone(d) makes a movie based on real events he'll take a couple facts, throw them in with tons of bullshit and bile, and the gloppy mess gets splattered up on the movie screens.

He did it with "JFK," he did it with "Nixon," and now he's done it with "W."

[jules1962]

18. It was really bad.

My mom and I went to see it yesterday and were very disappointed. It was so bad that a young couple behind us talked during the entire movie and the girl even got on her cell once and we didn't even care. Any other time I would have asked them to be quite. It was so bad that their conversation was more entertaining than the movie. Was great to see other dems in the theater though.:shrug:

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

19. Disrespectful to the office of presidency...

...to release a comedy on a standing president imho.

Dont care who it is. Coulda waited until Jan 20.

[JonLP24]

25. Bush is disrespectful to the office of the Presidency

as well as the constitution. I say f- him and who cares who is being disrespectful to Bush?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

32. pizza?

[GreenTea]

21. Reviews....

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/REVIEWS/810150285

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38726

[ladjf]

22. The shallowness of the movie trivializes and misrepresents the

profound criminality of the Bush Administration. As such, it is doing harm to America's best interests.

[JonLP24]

24. What did you expect from someone who wasn't apart of the administration?

What did you expect when Stone said his goal wasn't to make "anti-Bush polemic" but more of a movie of what it's like to be in his skin like Nixon but more of a chamber piece but not as dark in tone as Nixon? Clearly from the clips it seems much like a comedy and the actors imo did a great job as protraying the counter parts. I'd never expect the film to be a 100% accurate but more of an inside look of who he is overall.

[galaxy21]

26. I think it was probably quite close to the truth

The problem is, a lot of democrats seem to label Bush as either the villiage idiot or a sociopathic mastermind. He can't be both, can he?

W. seems to be saying Bush was this painfully naive, well intentioned guy that would have been harmless if he'd just kept out of politics. But when he did he got manipulated by darker forces (Cheney, Rove) and ended up way out of his depth. Not that that excuses Bush, he still let himself be manipulated, but I don't think you can pin everything that happened in the last eight years on him. He was too dumb to know better.

I think the point of the movie isn't that he was a bad president, but that he should have never been put in that position in the first place. Its a lesson about letting certain people get involved in politics, when they aren't that qualified or suited for it and can just get manipulated and used by other forces.

[trof]

27. We're going anyway.

That's what Miz t. wants for her birthday.

[FedUpWithIt All]

29. It is going to tell some of the story to the people who cannot handle all of it.

It will shed some light to people who usually keep the blinds drawn. Not everyone is as aware as DU'ers. I say props to Stone for bringing up the subject in a way that might get a certain segment of the pop. to start asking some questions or do a little research.

I think if it was too "honest" it would be easily disregarded and dismissed.

[Lex]

30. Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/REVIEWS/810150285&template=printart

[ElsewheresDaughter]

31. I thought it was GREAT!!!

[greenbriar]

33. I saw it friday and it was okay

could have done more damage, but showed the fuckin idiot for what he was

[FloridaJudy]

34. I took the advice of most on this thread

And gave "W" a miss. Instead, I went down to my local Dem headquarters and volunteered. Gave the money to a Progressive candidate.

Wound up being a real good karma thing: a friend I'd been trying to get in touch with for weeks (she'd been out of town) walked in requesting an Obama lawn sign. And I had some of the most interesting conversations while stuffing envelopes.

Maybe this would be a good day to buy my yearly lottery ticket.

[Sewsojm]

35. The trailers were bad so I figured the movie probably sucks , guess I was right!

[Disturbed]

36. I don't view the Busholini years as a comedy.

I find nothing humorous about the crimes of Bush/Cheney & their Criminal Cabal.

I don't believe that Busholini is a dolt. He is an arrogant, clever,Sociopath, simplistic in his views & mentally lazy. He was not manipulated to do what he did. If that is what this movie portrays then it is a failure.

[fed_up_mother]

37. I don't think he's innocent, but I do think he's been used by the Cheney cabal

However, he's been willing, so he ain't innocent.

[dailykoff]

38. I rec'd this on Sunday because it's true.

Why anybody in their right nut would PAY to be PROPAGANDIZED or even sit through the damn thing is completely beyond my understanding.

:wtf: