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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 04:20 AM
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Reports: Cerberus stepping up efforts to sell Chrysler
(I KNEW these scumbags had NO intention of preserving Chrysler in any way shape or form. They don't give a shit about jobs or the indsustry).

Talks with GM and Renault could result in sale or breakup of the automaker

Cerberus Capital Management LP is stepping up efforts to sell Chrysler LLC to General Motors, according to two news reports late today.

GM executives want to get a deal done with Chrysler's owners by the end of the month, but the parties still are far from having a firm deal in hand, The Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site tonight.

The Reuters wire service said parts of Chrysler may be broken up between both Renault SA and GM.

Both reports cited anonymous sources, and no spokespeople for any of the companies involved had a comment.

The Journal reported that bankers -- including J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. -- are encouraging a Chrysler-GM deal. J.P. Morgan is the largest holder of Chrysler debt and also is a major banker for GM, the newspaper reported.

GM has "teams of people" analyzing potential cost cuts, the Journal said. So far, GM has identified about $10 billion in cost savings from a merger with Chrysler -- and is interested in getting access to some $11 billion in cash on Chrysler's books, according to the Journal.

Breaking up the company?

A GM-Chrysler combination faces opposition from GM's unions along with skepticism from industry experts. Some unnamed members of GM's board also have given such a deal a "cool reception," the Journal said.

But GM's top executives "remain bullish" on the prospects of a combined company, according to the report.

Cerberus, which owns an 80.1 percent stake in Chrysler, wants to maintain a stake in the combined GM-Chrysler, the Journal said.

Meanwhile, Reuters reported that Chrysler is considering a wide range of deals with both Renault and GM that could break up Chrysler, Reuters reported, citing people familiar with the talks .

Under this scenario, GM may acquire some of Chrysler's assets as an alternative to an outright purchase of its smaller rival, the sources told Reuters.

Chrysler assets under consideration for purchase by GM include Chrysler's minivan line, a market segment Chrysler pioneered almost 25 years ago, and its truck-production facility in Mexico, one of Reuter's sources said.

The contacts between Cerberus and the automakers remain wide-ranging and preliminary but have been given urgency by the sharp downturn in auto sales that has forced Chrysler, GM and Ford Motor Co. to take steps to cut costs and shore up their cash holdings.

Other deals being considered by Cerberus hinge on whether Chrysler's key assets now have more value separately than together, the sources told Reuters.

Selling off Mopar, Chrysler Financial

As a result, Cerberus is looking at selling its Mopar parts unit, spinning off its engineering operations as a separate company and separating Chrysler Financial, one of the sources said.

The captive finance company could also be merged with GMAC, the GM-affiliated lender in which Cerberus owns a controlling 51 percent stake, several sources told Reuters.

In addition, Cerberus has had talks with GM about acquiring the automaker's remaining 49 percent share of GMAC and that remains a possibility, those sources said.

But all of the potential deals have been complicated and slowed by the volatility in financial markets and frozen credit markets, according to the people familiar with the talks who were not authorized to speak about the discussions.

Market turmoil has made it far more difficult for Cerberus and potential bidders to agree on the value of Chrysler's various parts and GMAC, the sources said.

Cerberus bought its controlling stake in Chrysler from Daimler AG in 2007 for $7.4 billion, but the automaker, like its listed Detroit rivals, has been hit hard by a steep decline in U.S. auto sales to 15-year lows.

The still-ongoing talks between GM and Chrysler have revived discussions about a potential merger that started in early 2007 before Chrysler was sold to Cerberus.

(subscription only) http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081016/ANA02/810160272/1142

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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:16 AM
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1. End of the month? Sheesh, this isn't a corner grocery.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 05:19 AM by ReadTomPaine
They are going to dismember Chrysler. It sounds like a bloodbath. GM is crazy if they let Cerberus get a stake as part of the deal. Sell the engineering unit? Eliminate the minivans? Lose Mopar? This is nuts.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:01 AM
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2. Nuts it is, RTP.
Notice they only seem to want to keep Chrysler Financial. Why am I not surprised? It really is the only part of the company they have Clue One about running. They pretty much admit with this news that they are in way over their head trying to run a car company.

Mopar could conceivably end up with a full-service Tier One supplier (Lear, Siemens, Visteon) but I can't imagine anyone else knowing how to run the logistics of that sort of operation. Especially if Chrysler uses a proprietary database system (which I am willing to bet that they do) for tracking part/model year associations. Automotive company after-market parts operations have to keep decades worth of old parts in production/warehousing/distribution to handle repairs for the life of their vehicles. It isn't a small task.

This is going to get very interesting.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 12:13 PM
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4. Mopar is legendary for their support of older vehicles..
you can get virtually anything you need for even a classic Dodge from them. It would hurt not only current owners, but cripple the heritage of Chrysler as well. This is almost a worse case scenario. And why on earth do they want a stake in GM?
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:29 PM
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6. Oh I know - huge fan club out there for Mopar.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 10:34 PM by susanna
They do a great job. Again, I think all of your questions lead back to one thing - Cerberus finally woke up and realized they will kill Chrysler - and their investment - if they don't get out now. They finally figured out that they have no idea how to run it, and if I don't miss my guess, some internal strife is doubtless underway. Lots of people in Chrysler who DO know how to run an auto company are probably giving the new "management" earfuls upon earfuls. It can't be pretty.

I'd say they want a stake in GM because they're gamblers. They are betting that "GM is too big to fail," and that if they buy in cheap now, they'll make the $$$ they thought they'd reap when they bought Chrysler - except they won't have to manage the dirty part of the equation - actually running either company. Just a gut feeling...

on edit: typo
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:37 PM
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8. I hope a single company takes the entire package or close to it.
At least there will be some chance at salvaging things down the road. How depressing.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 11:10 PM
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11. In total agreement. I hope something good comes of all this. :-( n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 12:09 PM
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3. Kick. This is dreadful news.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:39 PM
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5. Kick
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:31 PM
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7. K&R!
I'm thinking tonight might be a bad night for this one. :-(
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:39 PM
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9. You might be right.
The Corvette C7 delay thread I started was hopping earlier today, but frankly this is much more important news.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 11:09 PM
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10. Yeah...looks like things got shifted...
but the Corvette one was going to get some play, IMHO. The cachet of the Corvette lives on. :-)
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