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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:24 AM
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Freeper Mom: Letter to my brainwashed son
I hate to blast you, because I know you dont know what you are doing, but you think nothing of blindsiding me, so here goes.

Sorry Jason, but I cant let you get away with spouting the leftist dogma to me. Lets see, why do you think Farrakhan, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Castro, Ayers, Rev. Wright, Odinga (why dont YOU try looking into the facts about Odinga a little more deeply) all like this guy and why do they support him? Do you think it is coincidence? Or do you think there could something bigger going on, that whether you want to admit it or not, that has been implanting in the American psych the hate America propaganda, and hate whitey propaganda, you grew up hearing it. Hatred, jealousy. Its much better to blame someone else, than look at ourselves. I have had a lot of problems and not been responsible in my life. I didnt do what is wise. But I dont blame you because you have worked all these years and earned what you have. I dont expect you to take care of me. But that is what the left is doing. They want to make you pay for their problems. They take drugs and you must see they have housing and babysitters, and food stamps. Now granted there is a place for compassion, but not at the expense of the working class.

Lets see I see you referring to the Keating Five, what about the the Students for a Democratic Society, or the Weather Underground? Why arent you giving them the same attention? I think I told you I hung out with SDSs when I was a social worker in New York. I physically knew Boudin, Ayers, Dohrn. They came to my apartment and had wine with me. I knew those people. I knew the hatred, and the jealousy. One of our favorite movies was called Zabriski Point I just remember they blew up everything in that movie, and I remember wondering when I watched that movie, how I ever got to that place where I was so full of hate. How is it that you are so ready to side with the likes of a Madonna, who has lead men around by leashes in her videos or Lindsay Lohan who is barely literate. Whats his name Maher that gross pip squeak. Yet a lady who has led a normal life with marriage, children her own business, standing up to corruption in her own party, she is maligned as if she were the devil. She shoots animals for food, in Alaska they do that. It is very expensive up there. She took responsibility for each child she had, she didnt kill them to hide anything that might stunt her career. I guarantee that each of those celebrity women who are hating Palin right now have had an abortion. That is why they hate her so much.been there, done that.

You dont seem to want to see how crazy they are when it comes to ordinary people. People who arent attention getters, who dont want what someone else has, who just live normal lives. Obama sat in a church for 20 years that spouted hate whitey and God damn America and he never noticed? If I sat in David Dukes church for 20 years and then said I didnt cotton with KKK would you believe it?

Anyway, I said enough for now. Please dont come back at me with your one sided arguments. Do some investigation of your side. I have watched all this unfolding for years. I guess thats not a fair thing to say, but its the truth, Im older than you! Jason I saw things a long time ago, because I saw what hate does to a person first hand when I was young. I wanted to homeschool you back then because I saw the schools were starting to indoctrinate kids, instead of teaching them back then. Kids are so illiterate and the people like Ayers are responsible for that. They care more about instilling hate into young people than teaching them actual reading writing and arithmetic. Well, it worked pretty well. And the stupid thing is they are about to wreck their own country! How stupid is that? Love mom

This was in response to a email from my son, when I sent him the Odinga video. I didn't end up homeschooling him very long, his father put him in school when he divorced me.

1 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 2:38:58 AM by abigail2



I think a # of Freepers have family members who are certified moonbats. Mine is my lefty brother. We all have our crosses to bear.

7 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 2:51:09 AM by max americana

Abigail, I feel your pain, I have a son in grad school up among the great unwashed in Santa Cruz, and have had some sharp exchanges with him also. (at least he's more inclined to vote 3rd party, Green or Constitution party, rather than dem). The leftist control of our education system has to be addressed in the future, because that's the only way they keep their power.

Anyway, I just wanted to say I totally agree with you about feeling the celebrity women's vitriolic response to Palin is subconsciously based on abortion guilt, I think it is also widespread among the feminist movement also. The women who felt so right in exercising their choice either for inconvenient pregnancies or due to prenatal testing results, are having to face the possibility that they may have made the wrong decision, or for the wrong reasons. Every time Sarah talks about every child being a gift, and being precious, has got to sting. To me, guilt is the only rational reason that all these women are responding so irrationally.

14 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 2:55:18 AM by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)



Just get the kid a passport and tell him not to come back until he has spent at least 6 months in a communist country.

22 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:04:32 AM by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)



I totally feel your pain! My brother is a certified moonbat and its impossible to reason with him. Its a crying shame - I think hes well past the point of no return. He went to a typical leftist university and unsurprisingly came out a hardened RAT.

Abigail, I do however take issue with your points about wishing you had homeschooled him so you could teach him reading writing and arithmetic. Your grasp of grammar, quite frankly, is atrocious.

28 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:15:12 AM by Douggles

The video testimony from the survivors is in Hungarian, but the museum itself has panels in Hungarian and English.

When I left the museum, I sat in total silence for quite a while still trying to take in what I had seen.

People are so damn stupid to embrace democrats and their communist ideology.

Don't these people realize that in order for communism to even be attempted, murder and other horrific atrocities are necessary.

I think that some people (your son, my mother and sister) are pre-programmed to be crazy.

31 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:17:19 AM by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)




2out of my 3 sons do this to me all the time. They entrap me. Im pretty sick of it. The oldest wanted to know how I felt about these elections. I said I didnt want to talk about it. It was all come on mom, I want to know. He already knows I am a conservative, and he gets me everytime. Once we argue he says, Im done he doesnt want to talk politics anymore. I cant believe he gets me everytime.

33 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:18:34 AM by Lovergirl (Rest in peace Dear Tony . You will never be forgotten......... Once a SnowFlake Always a SnowFlake.)



Write what you want to say. Tell them to talk about the issues on their side for a change. It is terrible when they spew facts and you have to look them up. I just decided not to do it this time, to turn the tables on him.

37 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:24:07 AM by abigail2



They dont spew facts, they spew crap. Its all liberal stuff. They are on the wrong side of everything.

38 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 3:27:10 AM by Lovergirl (Rest in peace Dear Tony . You will never be forgotten......... Once a SnowFlake Always a SnowFlake.)



People are so damn stupid to embrace democrats and their communist ideology.

= = =

terminally suicidally stupid.

55 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 4:45:01 AM by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425

This will not work. Perhaps he sees you as "brainwashed"?

Do not let politics drive your son from you. Life is so much more interesting than political partisanship. If he supports Obama, so what?
61 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 5:29:10 AM by jude24



My dad, two of my children, and almost everyone I work with are raging Democrats. It grieves me and makes it hard to relax. The next few weeks will be hard fought.

62 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 5:39:46 AM by Melian

She took responsibility for each child she had, she didnt kill them to hide anything that might stunt her career. I guarantee that each of those celebrity women who are hating Palin right now have had an abortion. That is why they hate her so much.

Very astute. And upon reading it, the song "Harper Valley PTA" came instantly to my mind. Sarah Palin is Mrs. Johnson addressing the critical hypocrites.

65 posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 6:25:25 AM by Alia

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2102085/po...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:27 AM
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1. I never cease to be amazed...
at how Freepers and the wingnuts so readily say that *we're* the ones full of "hatred." Yeah, we've got the rallies where people yell "KILL HIM!" in response to the opposing candidate's name being mentioned. Uh huh. :eyes:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:04 AM
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12. I know. Any more, I wonder if there's anything they complain about which they are not
also guilty of.

We're the hateful ones who do not care about life and who are destroying America.

Makes me wonder what color the sky is on their planet.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:05 AM
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13. and Right-to-Lifers with sniper rifles with high-power scopes
and bumperstickers on the shoulder butt saying "Kill them all and let God sort them out" ...
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:32 AM
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2. So "Mom" can hang out with "leftist radicals" and change, but they can't?
Funny how that works out.
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:46 AM
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4. father put him in school after he divorced her
She says she didn't get to home school him long cause his father sent him to school after he divorced her.

Does that indicate that she didn't have custody of her own son? I know things are a little more evenhanded in the family court system now than they were 30 or even 20 years ago. If she has a grown son, and a judge awarded the father custody back then, then she must have been a pretty freakin' horrible mother. Because "back in the day" the mother was ALWAYS awarded custody except in the most egregious cases. I'm guessing the freeper bitch doesn't have much of a right to tell her son how to feel or think about anything.

Kinda like DUI. The laws have changed a LOT. Anyone with a DUI conviction in the 70s had more than an "elevated blood alcohol level" - they were drunk off their ass and obnoxious. Because if you were anything less than drunk off your ass completely incapable of driving and making an ass of yourself to the officer they would tell you to go home and "sleep it off".
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:50 AM
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6. Great point. In the thread she says he's 34.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:14 AM
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27. yep
the same thing struck me. i got the feeling Dad left her because she was a nutjob and got the kids as a result...
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:54 AM
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7. Well, she "physically knew them" They were in her apartment and drank wine with her.
"I physically knew Boudin, Ayers, Dohrn. They came to my apartment and had wine with me."

Wait, WHAT!?
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:56 AM
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8. Cue the 70's porn music?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:02 AM
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16. You mean she was palling around with terrists? n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:08 AM
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18. She hung out unrepentent terrorists. ARREST HER! Send her to GITMO!!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:41 AM
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3. You know, if they had any facts to back up their opinions
-- if they weren't so impervious to reason, I'd consider them worthwhile adversaries. But arguing with their empty-headed vicious beliefs is a waste of time.

That woman's son was incredibly lucky to escape her brand of home-schooling. If he hadn't I'm sure she'd be bragging about what a very compliant dittohead he is like her now.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:06 AM
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14. "It is terrible when they spew facts and you have to look them up."
Damn you for demanding facts!!!
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:49 AM
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5. What I find the most troubling...
is hearing a woman who writes as poorly as she suggest that she's in any way qualified to homeschool her son. With all the run-on sentences, that was just painful to read.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:02 AM
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9. It is terrible when they spew facts and you have to look them up.
BWA! And now she refuses to look anything up. Reminds me of a freeper I know in town.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:03 AM
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10. I am *literally* unable to read any of that; it appears to be word salad...
..except for the line that goes "People are so damn stupid to embrace democrats and their communist ideology." Hmmmmm- I don't know where in the Democratic Party platform this so-called 'communist ideology' enters the scene, but I'm REAL f*cking fed up with the "C" word being attached so casually. In this country we have two major political parties, the Republican Party which is resolutely right-wing, and the Democratic Party which is slightly center-right.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:04 AM
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11. The capacity for projection in Nazis, Freepers, and other totalitarians is simply staggering.
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 08:05 AM by tom_paine
Beyond the pale.

Looking at that thread, one can practically close one's eyes and see the Courtyard of Auschwitz, and the jackbooted 1940s German Freeper kicking a Jewish Victim to death scream, "You (kick) fucking Jews (kick), lie about (kick) EVERYTHING (kick kick). Liars (kick) and criminals (kick) who want to take over the world (kick kick KICK)!"

Psychologically, this Freeper thread is IDENTICAL to that scene, without the violence, obviously.

They don't yet have "permission from authority" to take the next step. But rest assured, if it comes, they will gleefully avail themselves of it just like the German Freepers did in the 30s and 40s.

No one and I mean NO ONE projects the vileness of themselves onto others like a bootlicking followers of totalitarianism. Nazis, Commies, Bushies, Pinochetistsas, whatever. They are ALL basically the same person.

This insane thread, in which every aspect of the RW Hate and Propaganda Ops is ascribed to their "Jewish Victims" (Liberals are the New Jews, they were also murdered along with the old Jews of German Freeperdom 1933-1945), merely confrims that Dr. Altenmeyer is right.

home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:17 AM
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24. I will never understand these people.
America has two civilizations within it now: Americans and the Right Wing, Us and Them. "They" are characterized by ignorance, a cloying sincerity, abject wrongness, and always, always total certitude. "We" are characterized by a connection to reality and working brains.

Short of splitting into two separate nations, I don't see any way to bridge the gap between Us and the people quoted in the OP, the wannabe assassins at the Palin/Nazi hate rallies, and the Sean Hannitys and Michael Weiners of the RW media.

It's not just another world they're in. It's another Universe.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:21 AM
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25. I do think that the demographic of the right wing is getting older though
so maybe they will eventually die off.

That's my glass half full perspective. ;)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:28 AM
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26. Actually, it is very important to understand them, IMHO
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 09:28 AM by tom_paine
This will help:

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey /

I also don't see any way to bridge the gap between Free People and Cultishly Programmed Slaves of Totalitarian Tyranny.

Either freedom will make a comeback and win or Bushie Totalitariansm will cast it's shadow on the world much that same as it did in the 1930s.

Not sure there's any other possible outcome, at this point, either.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:07 AM
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15. "Odinga" ?
How do Freepers get their knuckles off the ground long enough to type their stupidspeak?

:dunce:


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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:06 AM
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17. If that was my mother, this would be my response
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 09:09 AM by IWantAnyDem
"You are no longer my mother. I am no longer your son. Never attempt to contact me or my family ever again. I am cutting you off forever."

Don't think I wouldn't?

I did precisely that to my father fifteen years ago and have never seen the man since.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:08 AM
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19. I certainly wouldn't go that far, not just from an email like that.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:10 AM
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20. I had it out in a similar manner with my father 15 years ago
I've not seen or spoken to the man since. He could eb dead for all I know or care.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:12 AM
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22. I could have too with my fundy preacher father, but this year he's
voting Obama.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:12 AM
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21. Geez, mom,
how are those last 8 years working for you? You don't need Social Security or government money--that's what those bootstraps are for.

If not for my mother, who didn't have it in her to get divorced years ago, I'd have forgotten about my freeper father years ago.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:14 AM
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23. I see they're all busy singing along to "Stuck in 1968"...
...never quite understanding just who is stuck.
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