This deployment of troops on U.S. Streets should be taken seriously

[santamargarita]

Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on U.S. Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

Members of Congress were told they could face martial law if they didn't pass the bailout bill. This will not be the last time.

I interviewed Vietnam veteran, retired U.S. Air Force Colonel and patriot David Antoon for clarification... "If the President directs the First Brigade to arrest a bunch of voters, what would stop him?" "Nothing. It would end up in courts but the action would have been taken." "If the President directs the First Brigade to kill civilians, what would stop him?" "Nothing." "What would prevent him from sending the First Brigade to arrest the editor of the Washington Post?" "Nothing. He could do what he did in Iraq -- send a tank down a street in Washington and fire a shell into the Washington Post as they did into Al Jazeera, and claim they were firing at something else."

By Naomi Wolf, AlterNet. Posted October 8, 2008.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/101958/thousands_of_troops_are_deployed_on_u.s._streets_ready_to_carry_out_%22crowd_control%22/?page=entire

The Bush Crime Family is just that desperate and crazy!

[rwenos]

1. Nahh, They Got the Paraguay Castle

It's probably just about ready. Things go wrong on Election Day, they're outta here.

There's probably a code word and everything. It would mean "all hands to the nearest airport, where a private jet will be waiting with flight plan filed."

These guys always have a Plan B.

[seemslikeadream]

2. The Bush Crime Family is just that desperate and crazy!

[defendandprotect]

3. The destroyers still have time to go to do their damage ...how much more to come--!!???

[aquart]

4. OMG, is that what this woman is preaching?

Martial law in Congress is not the same as martial law for the country. Which, seeing as "martial" has to do with the military and ours is dead on its feet, would take some doing. One brigade couldn't control Manhattan, let alone the outer boroughs.

So what if the ass gives the order? WHO'S GOING TO CARRY IT OUT? Endless mindless minions like you see on TV? Do you have any concept of the American landmass? The American population? The ease of making molotov cocktails?

Now go sit in the corner and think of something sensible.

[seemslikeadream]

5. Those were two different martial laws

The one pertains to Pelosi invoking martial law on Congress so they could not leave the building. It had been invoked





The other one and very DIFFERENT one is the Martial Law the Congressman is talking about

U.S. Rep. Brad Sherman of California said to Congress, captured on C-Span and viewable on YouTube, that individual members of the House were threatened with martial law within a week if they did not pass the bailout bill:


"The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. … Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day and a couple of thousand on the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no."

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

6. remember 2004?

Several troops positioned in a few swing states can cause more havoc than one Gov Blackwell.

This is a dangerous precedent, don't you agree? Could it not lead to abuses down the road? Were there not safeguards put into place after the Civil War to prohibit something like this from happening? In the wake of Katrina, did Bushco--with the blessing of both liberals and conservatives--not rewrite the language of this 1878 safegaurd to expand the conditions underwhich the president can waive it? Isn't that alone bothersome to you? Was one of the chief concerns, in fact, that those changes made it easier for a president to declare martial law? When first alerters--not you or your cohorts here--made a fuss about this, were those new conditions not repealed just this year and the original language restored? Is there reason for pause: financial market meltdown, reports from the counterterroism community, presidential election?

And you and your cohorts have faith in what exactly?

Now don't go back to your lame "martial law" cop-out. I'm not suggesting that has to be of great concern at this point.

[santamargarita]

7. Well said!

I won't breath a sigh of relief until I see that asshole leaving Washington for good!

[aquart]

8. Could it lead to abuses? YEAH.

Which is why I don't want an unimpeachable president. Which is what we are going to get. And I'll vote for him. But nobody gives power back willingly. The one who will have all the power to do all those terrible things....and you better believe that the weather is going to get bad enough to furnish an excuse for martial law....is OUR GUY. WE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL BE IN OFFICE. WE ARE THE ONES INHERITING BUSH'S UNCHECKED AND UNCHALLENGED POWER.

May God have mercy on our souls.

[conspirator]

9. Hey. This looks like that Bruce Willis/Denzel Washington movie

Sleeper cell maybe, I don't recall the title

[pinniped]

10. The Siege

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[B Calm]

11. Hell, they already use Bush's private army, Black Water to take our guns away.

[conscious evolution]

12. Blackwater is the one to worry about.

All they have to do is start calling the right "christian" churches and they could field an army in no time flat.

[lunatica]

13. I take it seriously. It's not like Bush hasn't been repeating history

As far as I'm concerned Bush hasn't done anything new in his coup of this country. The PNAC crowd (Kristol, Rumsfeld, Cheney) and Rove have implemented their plan pretty well right under our noses. History is replete with military takeovers, as well as assaults on their own countrymen as directed by their dictators. We just thought it couldn't happen here which is exactly what they were counting on as they made it happen.

There are still people who are watching American Idol and Survivor as if they were the epitome of American culture. They're still making action movies with the great American hero who takes on the entire US military and wins. I'm thinking of Bruce Willis in the last Die Hard movie. Meantime reality has taken a turn and not for the better.

If it's been done before in a coup, why wouldn't they do it again? How else can they get absolute power?

[MilesColtrane]

14. .

[Captain Sensible]

15. Bush hates McCain......

Why would he do that for him? He has no reason. In fact he probably wants him to lose.

[lunatica]

24. To use him as a figurehead while the real rulers work behind the scene

n/t

[voteearlyvoteoften]

16. Bank runs

My hypothesis would explore the possibility that troops are being prepared for possible bank runs.

[Xenotime]

17. Holy SHIT! These are serious charges. Too much power.

[Marie26]

18. Uh, isn't this fear-mongering?

What's stopping Bush from dropping a nuclear bomb on Kansas City? Absolutely nothing!! OMG, let's panic!

She's also blatantly wrong about this: "George Bush struck down Posse Comitatus, thus making it legal for military to patrol the U.S." Leahy reinstituted Posse Comitatus in the 2008 Defense Bill. I'm a little disappointed in Naomi Wolf.

[NeedleCast]

26. Yes, it is...but the tin-foilers love this shit

This thread has been posted several times per day for several days now. The tin-foilers are insisting that 1st brigade, 3rd ID (and some insisting that all of Northern Command) has been "deployed" to hidden positions around the US and are ready to step in an declare martial law.

No amount of talking sense will stop them despite the fact that it's been pointed out that the military has a strong dislike for Bush, that they're exhausted and couldn't stop my grandmother on her walker right now, would be outnumbered about 3,000 to 1 odds and probably wouldn't follow orders to fire on civilians anyway.

[sweetpotato]

19. Something that occurred to me

I think most people would agree that W isn't enjoying his office anymore. He's almost spent all of his political capital. I think he is chomping at the bit to get to his ranch or to his place in Paraguay or maybe even with his buds in the Middle East - he has a lot of friends there, yes?

But what would stop him or the people who are REALLY running the show from declaring martial law, cancelling the elections, have Cheney resign to be replaced by Mrs. Palin, then W resigns and presto, Mrs. Palin is our new dictator.

This is what I thought this morning while wearing my tinfoil hat. Which I love, BTW.

[Horse with no Name]

21. I beg your pardon?

Spent his political capital?
That measly 2% he "supposedly" won the election with? Or at least until the shenanigans in Ohio were disclosed.
That man was writing hot checks on his alleged political capital.

[sweetpotato]

22. I believe I read somewhere

That Ws and Cheney's thoughts on the approval ratings was that the idea was to leave office with a zero approval rating. That would then show that they had spent all of their political capital.

They still have a 20something percent approval rating - they haven't used it all up yet.

[Horse with no Name]

23. I see.

Carry on.
I'm still bitter from that speech where he was talking about his political capital and his mandate.
:D

[lunatica]

25. Goes to show that pretend capital is as good as real capital

Bush has done his job of trashing every single thing he ever did. He'll brag about it.

[leftofthedial]

20. Our perpetual war-based economy, "national security" apparatus

and foreign policy have basically been a protection racket (aka extortion) ever since WWII ended. Now they are using the same strategy in the economic sector.

Reagan already turned our "defense" programs against us, when he targeted the US population with orchestrated disinformation campaigns to hide his administration's crimes in the 80's. The only part of the "government" that the repukes don't want to drown in Grover's bathtub is the part of it they need to implement a national security police state to preserve the power and status of the wealthy elite and their puppet king.

[pecwae]

27. Good 911 forum fodder.