I find it hard to believe that a filthy rethug like Jon Voight helped produce Angelina Jolie

[Hugabear]

Thank god she shares none of his neocon viewpoints.

[endarkenment]

1. don't be too sure about her politics.

She is pretty whacked in some areas.

[hadrons]

3. The whole family is pretty wack ... Jon Voight used to be a big Indian activist ...

but I think even they got tried of his act; I sort of think he's right-wing views are the result of feeling spurred.

[leftofcool]

6. I believe he is still quite active behind the scenes for the NA community

[hadrons]

14. That makes sense, since they wanted to kick him in the ass after some of his public statements

I remember him making some bizarre statements that caused a lot of embarrassment to NA community.

[Faygo Kid]

25. Didn't she wear a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood around her neck when they were married?

Pretty weird.

Jon Voight is a disgusting totalitarian.

[ColbertWatcher]

28. It's only a rumor so far, but she may be in a movie based on an Ayn Rand book.

If it gets made, it will be because she got involved.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480239 /

[closeupready]

2. Um, that's her father.

Innit?

Oh, wait, sorry, I misread your post.

yeah, I love her. Not crazy about him so much.

[Hugabear]

4. Yes it is.

n/t

[closeupready]

5. Is he a Republican?

I didn't know that. What about her? She has a huge heart but do we know for sure she's a Democrat? She's starring in Atlas Shrugged, disappointingly.

[avaistheone1]

9. Jon Voight, dad is a raging, radical right wing republican.

He had one of the front rows searts at the Republican National Convention. He also writes whacked out right wing pieces for the Washington Times.

Amgelina has been estranged from her dad for many years.

[closeupready]

11. Oh, how sad for Angelina.

[rsdsharp]

7. I had a sudden return of memory over the weekend.

In February or March of 1972, as a small town Iowa high school senior, I traveled with some friends to the University of Northern Iowa to see Senator George McGovern speak. McGovern, of course, was running for the Democratic nomination, and would secure it within a few months.

I hadn't thought of that in years, but that memory, and another, came crashing back this weekend, when I saw a blurb on TV about John Voight being a Republican.

The other memory? In the fall of 1972 I was a freshman at UNI. One afternoon I went to the same hall where McGovern had spoken to see an actor speak on behalf of his candidacy. His name? John Voight. I even got to shake his hand. Dead fish have firmer grips. I wonder what happened to change him.

[tpsbmam]

8. Apple doesn't fall all that far from the tree since she said not too long ago that

everyone assumed that she was a Dem and would support Obama but that's not the case -- she hasn't (or hadn't at the time) made up her mind who she was supporting.

[Lautremont]

10. His progressive attitudes reached their climax during the shooting of 'Coming Home' in 1978

and the turnabout came shortly thereafter. No one, not even Voight himself, knows the reason for it.

[whathehell]

16. How interesting....As I say in my post below, he was truly great

in that role...I'm a former college film major and "Coming Home" is probably my favorite of all time.

Can I ask where you got this information?...Did you read it in an interview somewhere?...I'm interested because I remember how shocked I was recently when he turned up on the Glen Beck show.....I was like "Whaaaat??!

[whathehell]

12. He wasn't always a filthy re-thug..In fact, I think that's a rather recent development,

although I could be wrong.

He did win the Oscar for Best Actor in '79 for his role as a paralyzed anti-war Vietnam Vet in "Coming Home"..He was truly great, as was the movie as a whole.

I try to remember him that way.

[Smarmie Doofus]

13. He went to my high school.

A constipated McCarthy era, Roman Catholic, hard right, NY, hard -headed, Cardinal Spellman world view predominated there in the 50's. Despite his dalliance with the left in the late 60's/early 70s ( which, lets face it, was good for Midnight Cowboy's career) he drank and metabolized the 50's kool-aidthat was forced on him by RC eduacation, not really understanding anything that happened in the real world.

Jon's frozen in time.


Here's wiki:

>>>>In the 1970s during the Nixon administration, Voight actively protested against the Vietnam War. However, he wrote that he regrets his youthful anti-war activism in a July 28, 2008 op-ed piece in the Washington Times, calling it the result of "Marxist propaganda."

Voight appeared on Fox & Friends to endorse former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani for the 2008 Republican Party nomination. He attended a Giuliani campaign event and said New York City was transformed into a much safer, cleaner and more livable city. He said "God sent an angel, his name was Rudy Giuliani."<4> In another interview in Miami with AventuraUSA.com, Voight said he first met Giuliani "years ago" at a movie premiere in New York City and the main reason for his support was Giuliani's public poise in the wake of the September 11 attacks.<5> In the interview, Voight revealed he and then-Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton "are friends.">>>>

[Avalux]

15. Angelina has not committed to Obama. She's actually considering McCain.

Why have her on a pedestal?

[marshall]

32. Brad's come a long way since he taunted Jenna Bush

Remember when he and Jennifer Aniston shamed Jenna Bush when she was a summer intern out in Hollywood. Angelina has all but neutered him and now neither one can commit to who they are going to vote for.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

45. Huh? I thought Aniston had come out for Obama

[Toucano]

17. I find it hard to believe that so many Americans are obsessed with celebrities.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about him OR her.

[whathehell]

20. Some "celebrities" are rightly considered artists. n/t

[Toucano]

34. Then they are qualified to talk about their art.

And little else.

[whathehell]

37. Sorry, but I think that's bullshit...They are citizens and may

know as little or as much as we about politics...Are you only qualified to talk about what you do for a living?

[Toucano]

39. It doesn't matter what they know or don't know.

Their role is society is to entertain. Entertainment is a business.

If they are at a dinner party, they can talk about whatever they want. I couldn't care less. On the "red carpet" they can also talk about whatever they want, but I won't be listening.

We put microphones in front of their faces (unlike me, and I'll presume you) because of their JOB - not because they are learned sages. They have the job they have largely because of their appearance.

The obsession with the lives of these people is out of control and Americans are treating them like an oligarchy; the elite who dictate what we see, what we wear, what we eat, how we think.

No matter how much I may agree with them, this is not their role.

Jon Voigt has a degree in art. His daughter holds a diploma from Beverly Hills High School. These are not the people Americans should be turning to for advice on much of anything.

[whathehell]

41. I'm sorry, We're simply not on the same page.

First of all, I don't see Americans, en masse, turning to Voigt, Jolie or any other celebrity for their political opinions.

Having said that, I must say that you seem particularly disdainful of these people. Although I agree that their opinions should not be afforded particular importance because of who they are, I don't think they should be dismissed for that reason either.

Your emphasis on "roles" seems odd to me. These people are humans and citizens, not trained monkeys. Should anyone be so rigidly confined to a "role" that every opinon expressed outside of it is automatically dismissed?...I think not. As Paul Newman said, "I didn't give up my rights as a citizen when I got my SAG card".

As for John and Angela's eduation, great, but...So what? Jody Foster and Paul Newman went to Yale. And Bill Gates is a college dropout.

[Toucano]

43. The disdain is a product of the obsession, whatthehell.

Look at the OP again.

We're reduced to discussing their lives and their personalities, not their ideas.

They're not humans; they are celebrities. Same species, but altogether different animal.

Their dysfunctional lives and self-absorbed personalities are a distraction from ideas of true importance. The obsession with celebrities further muddles the distinction between news and entertainment.

We would be better off if more people simply enjoyed their art and then ignored them.

[whathehell]

44. I don't need to look at the OP again. If I haven't made myself clear,

I do agree that too much is made of celebrities generally...but calling them "not human" is, in my opinion, despicable and maybe even a little daft.

You say the "disdain" comes from the obsession but it is not the celebrities who are "obsessing" -- Why blame them? -- It's a segment of the public and frankly, I do NOT think they are represented on this board; A couple of comments is hardly reason to think otherwise.

Ironically, the person "obsessed" with celebrities, even if negatively, appears to be you!

As a former college film major, I respect some as talents and have a mild interest in them as artists...That's it!

For my part, this conversation is over.

[Raine]

33. Same here

I live in Los Angeles and all the news here is celebrity crap sometimes I could just

[ddeclue]

18. He's her DAD....duh....

[undeterred]

19. She carried a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood around her neck

for a couple of years. That ain't normal.

[whathehell]

21. For what it's worth, they both carried tiny vials of each other's blood.

According to Billy Bob, they pricked each other's fingers for it and the media made a big deal out of it.

[undeterred]

23. She is beautiful and has done some generous things

with the money she has earned being a decent actress.

[whathehell]

29. Yes. She is and she has. I believe she's said she gives one third

of her income to charities.

[Forrest Greene]

22. Ms Jolie Scares Me

Look at those weird, too-glittery eyes. I think she's stone cold nuts.

[JackRiddler]

27. I think you're right...

In fact, I think she wants to kill me! My own wife!

[whathehell]

38. Actually, I like that quality about her!...When she looks like that she reminds me of a female Jack

Nicholson...Jack has also generated similar reactions: "He looks nuts"!

[Forrest Greene]

40. I Once Had A Girlfriend With Eyes Like That

Things did not delay in turning, well, nuts. YMMV.

[Lyric]

24. Angelina's a Rand fan. That apple didn't fall far from Daddy's tree. n/t

[JackRiddler]

26. She's gearing up to film Atlas Shrugged.

What makes her so progressive, in your view? Or maybe you're not getting past the hubba-hubba exterior? Jon Voight was a hunk in his time, too, a boy toy even: ever see Midnight Cowboy?

[graywarrior]

30. An actress I know told me there is incest in that family

which is why she stays away from him.

[deaniac21]

31. Actors....Actresses.....

Who cares what any of them think? They are all rich, spoiled elitists.

[Toucano]

35. Not to mention egomaniacal and completely detached from reality.

I mean really!

[dana_b]

36. I don't necessarily care about their political views...

but to call them ALL rich, spoiled elitists is very ignorant. Most actors don't make much. A few very lucky ones make the big bucks.

[deaniac21]

42. I'm sorry that I don't meet with your intelligence requirements but

I beleive every single actor or actress being discussed here is filthy rich. Otherwise we wouldn't even know who they were....Comprendre?