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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:16 PM
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WAAS: Bushco Knew Surveillance Program Was "OUTSIDE THE LAW" So-They LIED To COVER-UP Crime
AMY GOODMAN: We return to my interview with investigative journalist Murray Waas. I asked him about two articles he wrote in theatlantic.com that relate to the attorney firings scandal called “The Case of the Gonzales Notes” and “What Did Bush Tell Gonzales?”

MURRAY WAAS: Myth, deception—Gonzales is still under investigation, or will be, by the acting US attorney in Connecticut as to whether he lied to Congress about the firings. And he’s currently under investigation for lying to Congress or perjury in regard to what he told Congress about their surveillance program.

But what the story in The Atlantic said was that Gonzales created a fictitious set of notes and created this funny set of notes, so that President Bush could reauthorize their surveillance program at a time the Department of Justice had concluded it was outside the law or of dubious, you know, legality. And so, they needed a pretext. They needed some rationale. And so, Gonzales simply made up a set of notes that wasn’t inaccurate, but a total lie—an extraordinary act for an attorney general.

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AMY GOODMAN: And where are those notes?

MURRAY WAAS: Those notes—well, they’re highly classified. Ironically, the investigators had a hard time getting them. So they’re conducting a perjury investigation, but they claim the notes were originally too, you know, classified for the investigators to look at. Once they got a look at them, they found out something extraordinary, which is the Attorney General apparently created a set of notes recounting a meeting with members of Congress, eight congressional leaders, known as the Gang of Eight, and these eight congressional leaders, according to his notes, said that they wanted the President to continue on with their surveillance program, even though the Department of Justice refused to certify it as legal and was questioning its legality. And based on that, Gonzales and Bush signed the reauthorization of the program.

But the members of Congress who were there say it’s a complete lie; they never said anything of this sort. So Gonzales wrote a false account in these notes, so, in case they got in legal trouble or, you know, let’s say there was an—even impeachment was quite possible if this had become known, but also public relations. All of these things probably played a role in why Gonzales made up these notes. But he essentially fabricated a set of notes to authorize a surveillance program that, in its form at the time, the Department of Justice said was of dubious legality.

lots more at:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/1/justice_dept_appoints_special_prosecutor_after
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:31 PM
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1. This Is, Ma'am, One Of the Most Extraordinary Actions Imaginable....
A level of both criminality and incompetence that takes the breath away....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:00 PM
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13. And then, Sir, Junior appointed Gonzalez to be AG so the crime would look
smaller when the time of reckoning arrived.

What a piece of work is Man.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:34 PM
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2. thank you and k&r. nt
:hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:36 PM
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3. if they walk, that will also be a crime
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:37 PM
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4. Thank you for staying on top of this, kpete. K&R n/t
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:44 PM
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5. K&R because its the slow investigations like this that will finally do t he job
Of getting some of these monsters behind bars.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:05 PM
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6. k&r /nt
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:13 PM
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7. Dye-am...that clears up nagging questions.
No wonder Gonzo acted so weird during the hearings.

Shred the truth, write the lies, get confused about the lies, add more lies, and when possible try to put the whole stinking pile of crap on someone else, then lie some
more.

Damn Pelosi, too. She was one of the the Gang of Eight.

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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:19 PM
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8. Sphits: Duh.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:43 PM
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9. K&R. (nt)
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:46 PM
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10. k and r nt
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:56 PM
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11. We'll never hear about many aspects of this program with the
passage of the FISA bill which included immunity.

:(

Attorney General Pulls Immunity Trigger
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/mukasey-denies.html

"...It was the first time Mukasey, as the nation's top law enforcement official, provided an emphatic and wholesale written courthouse denial of allegations contained in lawsuits accusing the Bush administration of widescale domestic spying in the years following the 2001 terror attacks...


The lawsuit was brought in 2006 by the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation. The EFF's lawsuit includes documents from a former AT&T technician that the EFF claims describe a secret room in an AT&T building in San Francisco that is wired up to share raw internet traffic with the NSA.


...According to the immunity bill, Congress authorized Mukasey to inform Judge Walker via classified and non-public documents about why the government is seeking immunity on behalf of the communication companies. According to the legislation, Walker has little power to deny Mukasey's request..."

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:57 PM
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12. yet Mukasey continues to sit on his hands -- Justice can be so selective
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:10 PM
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14. Recommended
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