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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:26 PM
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BAIL FAIL - Obama and McCain respond...
Obama Response to bail fail
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/29/1465624.aspx


WESTMINSTER, Colo. -- Obama said he's confident a deal will be reached on a bailout plan, despite it failing in the House.

Explaining why he was delayed at the start of his event, he said in this town about 20 minutes outside Denver, "I was on the phone with Secretary Paulson as well as the Speaker of the House and the Congressional leaders, because they are still trying to work through this rescue package. And obviously this is a very difficult thing to do. It's difficult because we shouldn't have gotten here in the first place.

"We meet here at a time of great uncertainty for America. The era of greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street and in Washington has led us to a financial crisis as serious as any we have faced since the Great Depression. They said they wanted to let the market run free but instead they let it run wild, and in the process they trampled our American values of fairness, balance, and responsibility to one another. Now, because of speculators who gamed the system and regulators who looked the other way, your jobs, your life savings, and the stability of our entire economy is at risk."

"So we've been left with no good options. And today, Democrats and Republicans in Washington have a responsibility to make sure that an emergency rescue package is put forward that can at least stop the immediate problems that we have so we can begin to plan for the future."

"Now, as I said, this is a hard thing to do. And, you know, right now, Democratic and Republican leaders have agreed, but members have not yet agreed. And there are going to be some bumps and trials and tribulations and ups and downs before we get this rescue package done.

"It's important for the American public and for the markets to stay calm, because things are never smooth in Congress, and to understand that it will get done. We are going to make sure that an emergency package is put together because it is required for us to stabilize the markets and to make sure that when a small business person wakes up tomorrow morning, he's going to be able to make payroll. That your, that your 401k and all the planning you've done for your retirement, that that's still going to be there. That we're not going to be losing jobs at a faster clip than we're doing right now, so I'm confident that we are gonna get there, but it's gong to be a little rocky. It's sort of like flying into Denver. You know you're going to land, but it's not always fun going over those mountains."

"At first, just some brief remarks on the deal that was arrived at last night, or night before last. Because I think it's important for people to understand what's currently on the table. It may go through some more modifications. It's a plan that has improved a good deal from the time it was first introduced by the Bush administration. This administration started off by asking for a blank check of $700 billion to solve the problem. And I said absolutely not."


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McCain Response to Bail Fail'
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/29/1465819.aspx
McCain ignores bailout questions Posted: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:31 PM by Carrie Dann
Filed Under: 2008, McCain
From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy


When McCain boarded his campaign plane with Rob Portman in preparation for his flight to Des Moines, just as the bailout legislation was defeated on the House floor, he ignored questions shouted by reporters from under the wing about the fate of the bill.

It's unclear if he could hear the questions, but when he heard reporters shouting his name he turned and waved.



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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:30 PM
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1. That says it all, no?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:34 PM
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2. ehhh? can't hear you...
in what regards, charlie??? I'll get back to ya on that, katie...

yes - says it all

Thursday's debate should be interesting when it comes to the bailout bill - especially since the house is scheduling round 2 for voting on it the same day..
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:38 PM
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3. kick
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:50 PM
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4. The 90 Senators Who Voted To "let the market run wild"
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 03:51 PM by Better Believe It
The vote on repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act.

Here's how the Senators voted on the final bill that President Clinton signed into law.

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 106th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Conference Report (S.900 Conference Report )
Vote Number: 354 Vote Date: November 4, 1999, 03:30 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Conference Report Agreed to
Measure Number: S. 900
Measure Title: An Act to enhance competition in the financial services industry by providing a prudential framework for the affiliation of banks, securities firms, and other financial service providers, and for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 90
NAYs 8
Present 1
Not Voting 1

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---90
Abraham (R-MI)
Akaka (D-HI)
Allard (R-CO)
Ashcroft (R-MO)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Campbell (R-CO)
Chafee, L. (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coverdell (R-GA)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Frist (R-TN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Graham (D-FL)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grams (R-MN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Robb (D-VA)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Roth (R-DE)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---8
Boxer (D-CA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Shelby (R-AL)
Wellstone (D-MN)

Present - 1
Fitzgerald (R-IL)

Not Voting - 1
McCain (R-AZ)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/r...
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:34 PM
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5. Yeah,
fuck Obama, fuck McCain - this is the revolution of "we the people". Or could be, given chance.
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