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9/22 ELECTION MODEL ( TIA ): Obama! 330 EV, 99% win probability -- "on the Rise!" -x
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2008 ELECTION MODEL
A  Monte Carlo  Electoral  Vote  Simulation



Updated: September 22

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  • Chart   State Poll Aggregate + Projection Trend
  • Chart   National 5-Poll Moving Average Projection
  • Chart   State vs. National: Vote Share Projection Trends
  • Chart   Battleground-State Polls
  • Chart   Battleground-State Win Probability
  • Chart   Obama Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Win Probability Trend
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Projected Vote Share Trend
  • Chart   Undecided Voter Allocation + Win Probability
  • Chart   Monte Carlo Electoral Vote Simulation Trials
     2008 Election Model Fraud Analyzer 
  • Uncounted  &  Switched Votes
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Vote Share
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Electoral Vote
  •  
     
    This
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
    5-Poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    9/22/2008
    Aggregate
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    Electoral Vote

    Obama
    McCain
     47.01 (50.77) 
     45.58 (49.23) 
     48.67 (52.05) 
     44.83 (47.95) 
    51.46
    48.54
    52.57
    47.43
    330
    208


        

    15-Poll

    End

    Sample

    Poll
    NATIONAL MODEL
     
    Pre   Undecided Voter Allocation
    5-Poll Mov Avg
     
    2-Party Projection  (60% UVA)
    5-Poll Mov Avg

    Trend
                                
    Gallup
    Rasmussen
    Hotline/FD
    CNN
    Quinnipiac

    CBS/NYT
    Zogby
    Ipsos
    Pew Resrch
    Newsweek

    AP/gFk
    FOX News
    NBC/WSJ
    CBS/NYT
    CNN

    Registered V
    vs     Likely V
    Poll Averages

    Date
                
    9/21
    9/21
    9/21
    9/21
    9/16

    9/16
    9/15
    9/15
    9/14
    9/11

    9/10
    9/09
    9/08
    9/07
    9/07

    Size   
                  
    2796 RV
    3000 LV
    915 RV
    697 LV
    987 LV

    800 LV
    1008 LV
    1046 RV
    2307 LV
    1038 RV

    812 RV
    900 RV
    1000 RV
    655 RV
    942 RV

    RV avg
    LV avg
    Total
    MoE
             
    1.85%
    1.79%
    3.24%
    3.71%
    3.12%

    3.46%
    3.09%
    3.03%
    2.04%
    3.04%

    3.44%
    3.27%
    3.10%
    3.83%
    3.19%
    Obama
                
    48
    48
    47
    51
    49

    49
    47
    45
    46
    46

    44
    42
    46
    44
    48

    45.6
    48.3
    46.7
    McCain
                
    44
    47
    42
    47
    45

    44
    45
    45
    46
    46

    48
    45
    45
    46
    48

    45.4
    45.7
    45.5
    Other
                
    8
    5
    11
    2
    6

    7
    8
    10
    8
    8

    8
    13
    9
    10
    4

    9.0
    6.0
    7.8
    Spread
                
    4
    1
    5
    4
    4

    5
    2
    0
    0
    0

    (4)
    (3)
    1
    (2)
    0

    0.1
    2.7
    1.1
     
    Obama
                
    48.7
    48.5
    48.0
    48.2
    47.2

    46.6
    45.6
    44.6
    44.8
    44.4

    44.8
    45.4
    45.0
    44.6
    45.0
    McCain
                
    44.8
    45.0
    44.7
    45.2
    45.0

    45.2
    46.0
    46.0
    46.0
    46.0

    46.4
    46.6
    46.6
    48.4
    47.2
    Spread
                
    3.8
    3.5
    3.3
    3.0
    2.2

    1.4
    (0.4)
    (1.4)
    (1.2)
    (1.6)

    (1.6)
    (1.2)
    (1.6)
    (3.8)
    (2.2)
    Win Prob
                   
    98.5
    98.0
    86.2
    80.2
    77.3

    66.7
    44.5
    30.9
    26.3
    28.4

    30.9
    34.8
    29.0
    14.8
    23.2
     
    Obama
                
    52.57
    52.4
    52.4
    52.2
    51.9

    51.5
    50.6
    50.2
    50.3
    50.2

    50.1
    50.2
    50.0
    48.8
    49.7
    McCain
                
    47.43
    47.6
    47.6
    47.8
    48.1

    48.5
    49.4
    49.8
    49.7
    49.8

    49.9
    49.8
    50.0
    51.2
    50.3
    Spread
                
    5.1
    4.8
    4.8
    4.3
    3.8

    3.0
    1.3
    0.5
    0.6
    0.3

    0.2
    0.4
    0.1
    (2.4)
    (0.6)
    Win Prob
                   
    99.7
    99.6
    92.7
    87.3
    88.1

    80.5
    65.8
    56.2
    62.1
    54.1

    51.8
    54.8
    51.0
    27.0
    42.2
     

     
    Obama’s EV and Popular Vote Win Probability is on the Rise

    Assuming that the election is held today (and is fraud-free), the Election Model projects that there is a better than 99% probability that Obama would win the election. His expected electoral vote margin is 330208 with a 51.46% two-party vote share. He also leads the National model (based on the latest 5 national polls) with 52.57% of the vote — giving him a 99.7% popular vote win probability.

    The EV win probability is a simple calculation: Obama won 4926 of 5000 simulated election trials. His win probability is therefore 98.5% (4926/5000). View the Election Model Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency chart. The model is a snapshot in time. Ideally, the weighted average vote shares would be identical in both the national and state models. But if they are, it’s just a coincidence; state polls lag the national polls. View the State vs. National Vote Share Projection Trend.

    The base case scenario assumes that Obama will win 60% of the undecided vote. And this is conservative; he is presumed to be the challenger, since McSame is running for the third Bush term). Note that the national polls lead the state polls, so that we can expect a rise in Obama’s expected EV and win probability. The national model also assumes that he will win 60% of the undecided vote. The probability that he will win the popular vote is over 99% — again assuming zero fraud, fairly accurate polls with the election held today.

    If Obama captures just 50% of the undecided vote, he is expected to win by 311–227 EV with a 50.6% vote share and a 96% win probability. The probability of winning the electoral vote is very close to the probability of winning the popular vote. In other words, if the projected vote share is nearly tied, the probability of winning the electoral vote will also be close to 50%.

    Democrats are strongest in high EV urban states, and Republicans are strong in low EV rural states. That’s why Obama can win the Electoral vote with slightly less than 50% of the total popular vote. The sensitivity analysis (see below) shows that if Obama wins 40% of the undecided vote, he will have 50.0% of the 2-party vote, 290 electoral votes and an 80% win probability.

    The fivethirtyeight.com site projects Obama with a 311.5–226.5 EV lead and a 74.4% win probability. Obama would surely win more than 74% of the trials in a Monte Carlo simulation with that expected EV split, unless they are factoring in a fraud component without saying so.

    As of Sept. 22, electoral-vote.com has Obama leading by 273265; realclearpolitics has Obama by 219189 (130 tossup). But the 2008 Election Model (EM) has Obama leading by 330208. Why the difference?


    THE 2008 ELECTION MODEL

    Last
    Aggregate
    5-poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Expected

    9/22/2008
    Average
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    Electoral Vote

     
     
     
    60% UVA
     
     

    Obama
    McCain
    47.01
    45.58
    48.67
    44.83
    51.46
    48.54
    52.57
    47.43
    330
    208


    Nov 1, 2004 Final Election Model
    75% UVA
     
     

    Kerry
    Bush
    47.88
    46.89
    47.80
    46.60
    51.80
    48.20
    51.77
    48.23
    337
    201



    Sensitivity Analysis — Impact of Uncounted and Switched Votes on Obama

    Uncounted
    1%
     
    2%
     
    3%
     

    Switched
    2%
    4%
    6%
    Vote%
    50.4
    49.4
    48.4
    EV
    303
    272
    240
    Vote%
    50.2
    49.2
    48.1
    EV
    289
    257
    227
    Vote%
    49.9
    48.9
    47.9
    EV
    274
    244
    213


    Sensitivity Analysis — Impact of Aggregate State Projected Vote Share

    Undecided Voter Allocation Scenario
    Base Case

    Obama
    40%
    50%
    60%
    75%
    80%


    Projected 2-Party Vote Share

    Obama
    McCain
    50.0
    50.0
    50.7
    49.3
    51.46
    48.54
    52.6
    47.4
    52.9
    47.1


    MoE
    Obama Popular Vote Win Probability (Normdist)

    1.0 %
    2.0 %
    3.0 %
    47.9
    49.0
    49.3
    91.9
    75.8
    68.0
    99.78
    92.3
    82.9
    100.0
    99.4
    95.3
    100.0
    99.8
    97.3


    Obama Electoral Vote (Monte Carlo - 5000 election trials)

    Mean
    Median
    289.9
    289.0
    311.2
    311.0
    330.4
    332.0
    355.2
    358.0
    362.2
    364.0

    Maximum
    Minimum
    385
    210
    382
    224
    400
    244
    417
    268
    420
    283


    Obama Electoral Vote Win Probability (Monte Carlo)

    Trial Wins
    Probability
    4009
    80.2
    4808
    96.2
    4978
    99.56
    4999
    99.98
    5000
    100.0


    95% EV Confidence Interval
    Upper
    Lower
    337
    243
    358
    265
    375
    286
    392
    319
    396
    329


    States Won
    Obama
     
    25
     
    25
     
    29
     
    29
     
    29
     



     

     

    Complete Update w State Model: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7159446&mesg_id=7159446




     

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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:18 PM
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    1. Post-convention reality for McPalin is setting in... n/t
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    Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:26 PM
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    2. Where are the models for adding third parties in? Nader's polling 6% in Mich.
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:20 PM
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    4. Nader taking from McCain. Maybe he'll become a factor. nt
    Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 11:23 PM by tiptoe
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    MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:33 PM
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    3. Assuming the election is "fraud-free"
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    Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:40 AM
    Response to Reply #3
    8. well this is the problem
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:03 PM
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    9. especially when no other election models factor election fraud into analyses. "Ostrich Modelers" nt
    Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 02:03 PM by tiptoe
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    FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:35 PM
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    5. This will be really good with the new ABC poll - Obama +9 :)
    Thats likely voters, he's +10 with registered voters
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    MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 11:47 PM
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    6. I can't help but notice the 2004 final pre-election poll in there
    Kerry 337, Bush 201

    Even without the fraud in 2004, this isn't close to what happened. It makes me doubt this model as a predictor.
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:05 AM
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    10. TIA's 2004 Election Model's Final Pre-Election Projection of 337 EV for Kerry matched EXACTLY the
    Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 11:42 AM by tiptoe

    aggregate state electoral vote count (column "EV") of the first-of-three Preliminary "Unadjusted Exit Polls" on election night, identified as "WPE Method" in the chart available here:

    http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/MatchingFinalExitPollToTheVote.htm

    Please reconsider your notion "this isn't close to what happened" after understanding what did happen on Election night and following day, 2004.

    Note the chart lists three Preliminary "Unadjusted" Exit Polls: WPE Method, Geo, and Composite.

    Pollster Edison-Mitofsky provided four aggregate state exit poll measures: the three "unadjusted" Preliminary Exit Polls and a Final "adjusted" poll (i.e. a "poll" 'forced' to match the Recorded vote).

    The "WPE Method" Preliminary Exit Poll is the "pristine" poll, unmodified, purely voter-response-based for 1250 representative sample precincts around the states. ("...the relevant data has not been made available for independent analysis"). The other two, later preliminary exit polls are modifications of the pristine poll results by degrees of incorporation of incoming vote counts and pre-election poll data.

    Kerry won the first three exit polls; Bush won the Final "poll":

    Exit Poll
        Vote Share
    EV based on
    states WPE


    1)    WPE
        51.847.2%
    377161
       (unadjusted)
    2)    GEO
        51.048.5%
     
       (modified with incoming recorded votes)
    3)    Composite
        50.349.1%
     
       (12:22am – modified with pre-election polls)    (13,047 random sample, 1% Margin of Error)
    4)    Final
        48.551.1%
     
       ('forced' to match the official recorded vote count)
     


    TIA's 2004 Election Model* final pre-election projection of Kerry 377 Expected EV exactly matched the unadjusted 'WPE Method' exit poll's calculated aggregate EV based on state WPE data provided by pollster Mitofsky (see chart).

    The official 286 EV awarded to Bush -- based on a recorded vote that is arguably fraudulent -- is what "isn't close to what happened" with either 1) the calculated aggregate EV based on Mitofsky unadjusted exit poll data or 2) TIA's Election Model projection of 377 expected EV based on pre-election poll data. The latter two independent measures matched exactly; the official 286 EV is what is "out of whack" because based on election fraudulent recorded vote count).

    The chart's first column is the official recorded vote count, to which the Final Exit Poll was 'forced' to match, with adjustments resulting in mathematical impossibilities and implausibilities for explaining Bush' 3Million official-vote margin mandate, implying the official recorded vote was fraudulent.


    *page 3-5








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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:34 PM
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    11. 9/24 2008 Election Model update provided in above post: click "2004 Election Model" link. n/t
    Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 03:37 PM by tiptoe
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:45 PM
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    12. typo correction: "377" should be "337" and "161"-->"201" (sorry) n/t
    Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 08:57 PM by tiptoe
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:37 AM
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    7. correction: "...Obama won 4978 of 5000 Monte Carlo simulation election trials. His win probability
    is therefore 99.56% (4978/5000)."
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