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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:50 PM
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Voting Absentee Requires A Color Photo I.D.
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 04:52 PM by orleans
i was just listening to bobby kennedy on ring of fire talking about this--i missed which state/states are requiring this--bobby said no one knows about this but these absentee ballots that do not have a copy of a valid color photo id will not be counted.

i'm trying to google this but can't find anything specific such as which state/states are requiring this.

bobby said there are a lot of the college kids that are going to be voting absentee and if no one knows about this--it could be a MAJOR problem!

can someone help me out with the states that are requiring this?

mike pap was even saying that he had never heard of this and he is coving news about voting all the time. pap went on to say what the hell is wrong with the democrats that they haven't taken care of these problems (essentially)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:52 PM
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1. Rec'd because I'd like to hear all about this, too. This is news to me.
Maybe folks in the election reform forum can help you out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 04:56 PM
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2. thanks. i posted a thread there too.
i wanted to scream when i heard him say that.

and now i'm wondering--do these absentee ballots even tell the voter they have to enclose a color copy of an id?

my god--this is really worrisome to me.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:08 PM
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3. WHICH STATES is incredibly important information -- making this claim on a National show
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 05:10 PM by IndyOp
without making it extremely clear who is and is not affected could cause people who don't have this stricture to decide to not bother voting. Talking about the problems in the system is important, but when there are 50 laws in 50 different states it can cause PANIC when none is needed.

:(
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:58 PM
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5. Agreed.

A quick google and I noticed a state where Photo ID is among the ID that can be used to apply for an absentee ballot.

It's really state dependent.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:30 AM
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8. it's in hava
2) Requirements.-- (A) In general.--An individual meets the requirements of this paragraph if the individual-- (i) in the case of an individual who votes in person-- (I) presents to the appropriate State or local election official a current and valid photo identification; or (II) presents to the appropriate State or local election official a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter; or (ii) in the case of an individual who votes by mail, submits with the ballot-- (I) a copy of a current and valid photo identification; or (II) a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter. (B) Fail-safe voting.-- (i) In person.--An individual who desires to vote in person, but who does not meet the requirements of subparagraph (A)(i), may cast a provisional ballot under section 302(a). (ii) By mail.--An individual who desires to vote by mail but who does not meet the requirements of subparagraph (A)(ii) may cast such a ballot by mail and the ballot shall be counted as a provisional ballot in accordance with section 302(a).
http://www.fec.gov/hava/law_ext.txt
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springbay Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 05:44 PM
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4. I don't trust absentee ballots
My daughter is a freshmen at a college 3 hours away, and I am going to pick her up Monday after classes, bring her home to vote on Tuesday, and then driver her back. This election is way too important to not vote in person.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:01 PM
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6. I havent heard about this but its not California.
just more ways to keep the vote count for Dems down.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:32 AM
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9. check out their show, and i thought the "help america vote act"
covered california as well:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

2) Requirements.-- (A) In general.--An individual meets the requirements of this paragraph if the individual-- (i) in the case of an individual who votes in person-- (I) presents to the appropriate State or local election official a current and valid photo identification; or (II) presents to the appropriate State or local election official a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter; or (ii) in the case of an individual who votes by mail, submits with the ballot-- (I) a copy of a current and valid photo identification; or (II) a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter. (B) Fail-safe voting.-- (i) In person.--An individual who desires to vote in person, but who does not meet the requirements of subparagraph (A)(i), may cast a provisional ballot under section 302(a). (ii) By mail.--An individual who desires to vote by mail but who does not meet the requirements of subparagraph (A)(ii) may cast such a ballot by mail and the ballot shall be counted as a provisional ballot in accordance with section 302(a).
http://www.fec.gov/hava/law_ext.txt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:14 PM
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7. I would question the claim.
It is more likely that photo ID would be required in some states when voting absentee in person instead of by mail.

Another instance that documentation would be required is if the person failed to provide documentation when they registered.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:32 AM
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10. that's not so in California
I vote absentee all the time. You HAVE to sign the back of the envelope, but no id. That is really horrible to think about. I'd like to know what states that is happening in.
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 01:35 AM
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11. they do that in Alabama
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 01:40 AM by crimson333
at least in my county, and it was clearly stated in the instructions to include a photocopy of your valid I.D. in 2004 when I used it

on edit

it was 2 envelopes I had to put the photocopy and ballot envelope in one and the ballot in the other one. It said on the outside of the envelope do not place ID copy in the same envelope as the ballot, it would not be counted if I did.
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