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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:35 AM
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Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5,
It's time for Obama to powerdrive over McCain
and drop Keating 5 into the Campaign

That ole troll just came out and accused Obama of Gaming the system.
I am posting this in the hopes the that Universe will get the message to Obama
before he goes live in a few Minutes, Obama need to swat the McFAILIN fly Hardcore

Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-mo..._b_127340.html

A Nation of Village Idiots


Don't let them tell you this economic meltdown is a complicated mess. It's not. Our national financial crisis is readily understood by anyone who has seen greed and hypocrisy. But we are now witnessing them on a profound, monumental scale.

Conservative Republicans always want the government to stay out of business and avoid regulation as long as they are making lots of money. When their greed, however, gets them into a fix, they are the first to cry out for rules and laws and taxpayer money to bail out their businesses. Obviously, Republicans are socialists. The Bush administration has decided to socialize the debt of the big Wall Street Firms. Taxpayers didn't get to enjoy any of the big money profits on the phony financial instruments like derivatives or bundled sub-prime paper, but we get the privilege of paying for their debt and failures.

Let's just consider the money. The public bailout of insurance giant (becoming a dwarf) AIG is estimated at $85 billion. According to one report, that's more than the Bush administration spent on Aid to Families with Dependent Children during his entire time in office. That amount of money would also pay for health care for every man, woman, and child in America for at least six months.

How did we get here?

That's pretty easy to answer, too. His name is Phil Gramm. A few days after the Supreme Court made George W. Bush president in 2000, Gramm stuck something called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act into the budget bill. Nobody knew that the Texas senator was slipping America a 262 page poison pill. The Gramm Guts America Act was designed to keep regulators from controlling new financial tools described as credit "swaps." These are instruments like sub-prime mortgages bundled up and sold as securities. Under the Gramm law, neither the SEC nor the Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) were able to examine financial institutions like hedge funds or investment banks to guarantee they had the assets necessary to cover losses they were guaranteeing.

This isn't small beer we are talking about here. The market for these fancy financial instruments they don't expect us little people to understand is estimated at $60 trillion annually, which amounts to almost four times the entire US stock market.

And Senator Phil Gramm wanted it completely unregulated. So did Alan Greenspan, who supported the legislation and is now running around to the talk shows jabbering about the horror of it all. Before the highly paid lobbyists were done slinging their gold card guts about the halls of congress, every one from hedge funds to banks were playing with fire for fun and profit.

Gramm didn't just make a fairy tale world for Wall Street, though. He included in his bill a provision that prevented the regulation of energy trading markets, which led us to the Enron collapse. There was no collapse of the house of Gramm, however, because his wife Wendy, who once headed up the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, took a job on the Enron board that provided almost $2 million to their household kitty. And why not? Wendy got a CFTC rule passed that kept the federal government from regulating energy futures contracts at Enron.

If John McCain gets elected and chooses Phil Gramm as his Treasury Secretary, which many politico types see as likely, they will be able to talk about the good old days when Gramm was in congress and McCain was in the senate and they were in the midst of the Savings and Loan crisis.

The S and L scandal, which may look precious when compared to our present cascade of problems, isn't hard to understand, either. But it is impossible to take John McCain seriously on our current financial Armageddon since he was dabbling in the historic collapse of 747 S&Ls that occurred during Ronald Reagan's era. In the early 80s under the Republican president, congress deregulated the savings and loan industry in much the same way that Gramm made sure there were no laws hindering our current financial malefactors on Wall Street. S&Ls simply lobbied until they had less regulation and then began making rampant, unsound investments.

The guy who was going the wildest with financial freedom was Charles Keating, who headed up Lincoln Savings and Loan of California. Because the S&L industry had managed to get congress to increase FDIC insurance from $40,000 to $100,000 on deposits, the irresponsible investing of people like Keating began to put taxpayer insurance funds at great risk of loss. Keating placed money in junk bonds and questionable real estate projects and because so many other S&Ls started acting the same way the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB) began to push for a regulation that limited these dangerous speculative "direct" investments to 10% of an S&L's assets.

And Keating didn't like it; he called on a private economist named Alan Greenspan, who promptly produced a study saying that there was no danger in "direct" investments.
But that didn't convince the FHLBB and as further scrutiny showed Lincoln Savings and Loan was making even more historically bad investment decisions, a federal investigation was launched.

So Keating called his home state senator John McCain.

McCain and four other US senators (known to history as the Keating Five) met with Edwin Gray, then chairman of the FHLBB. McCain had been hesitant to attend but had reportedly been called a "wimp" behind his back by Keating. The message to the FHLBB and Gray from the Keating Five was to lay off Lincoln and cool the investigation. Gray and the FHLBB did not relent but Lincoln stayed in business until 1989 when it collapsed with the rest of the S&L industry. The life savings of more than 20,000 elderly investors disappeared with the failure of Lincoln. Keating went to prison for five years.

Charles Keating was John McCain's pal. They met in 1981 and Keating dumped $112,000 in the McCain campaign bank accounts between '82 and '87. A year before McCain met with the FHLBB regulators, his wife Cindy and her father, according to newspaper reports at the time, invested about $360,000 in one of Keating's shopping centers. The Arizona Republic reported McCain and his wife and their babysitter took nine trips on Keating's private jet to the Bahamas to stay at the S&L liar's decadent Cat Cay resort. The senator didn't pay Keating back for the plane rides until years later when he was under investigation.

McCain wasn't found guilty of anything but bad judgment, which is an historic understatement. Republicans, who led deregulation of the S&L industry, delayed the bailout until after the 1988 election to make sure George H. W. won the White House. The cost to taxpayers for helping these 747 bad actors in the S&L industry was finally estimated at $1.4 trillion. If the bailout had begun in 1986 instead of after the presidential election, the cost would have been contained at $20 billion.

And now the Republicans who engineered our present crisis and got us into the S&L debacle of the 80s are before us saying the markets need regulation. No, actually, they don't need regulation. Why don't you Republican capitalists who believe in the free markets get out of the damned way and let them work and allow these various financial nuthouses be crushed by the weight of their own stupidity? When it is all over, we'll have sane and sober people create laws to make sure it doesn't happen again, assuming we survive this chaos.

Also, while you are handing out our tax money to idiots on Wall Street, save a little of the long green for the unemployed auto and construction workers and all of the other people who have lost their jobs because you were too stupid to notice what Phil Gramm was doing and you were convinced everything was going to be just fine because the markets work.

These, then, are the people -- the Republicans -- who want to run our government for four more years. John McCain isn't just one of them. He rides their jets. He takes their campaign donations. He makes them his campaign advisors. And he tells us to trust him.

He must think we are a nation of village idiots.

Hell, maybe we are.
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lotus007vr Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:37 AM
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1. Keating 5
KICK MCSAME IN THE NUTS...
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:39 AM
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2. Spread it around
Not the best quality.. but a start

McCain K5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ2eayWR3dU
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:39 AM
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3. McCain is just asking for Keating Five to become Dem mantra in his speech today.
He accuses Obama of being in bed with corrupt officials of Freddie Mac (Fannie Mae) over and over and over since this crisis blew up. The only response to that is to throw Keating Five back in his face over and over and over and over. Obama may not want to do that himself, but there are plenty of others (Biden and spokespeople) who can, and should.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:41 AM
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4. A corruption scandal from 1989...........Nobody cares
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 10:42 AM by Fluffdaddy
Nothing to see here folks.............move on

This will change no ones vote

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:51 AM
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5. even if you're right, what the downside to pushing it?
Please tell us.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:57 AM
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6. McCain's statements today about Obama "gaming the system"
IMO Makes this relivant. And if the Media, puts it on full blast people will care

And Imagine the frustration of McFailin trying to get it off the front page
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:52 PM
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20. Is this that stuff about lobbyists running Obama's campaign, that this is all Obama's fault,
or even both?


Because if he is seriously trying to make it look like, for instance, Obama is infected with lobbyists then he is truly pathetic.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:10 PM
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24. It's time for Obama to hit back hard. He is being slimmed big time.
There is nothing more middle class America will react to than pocketbook issues. If McShame contiues to make the case that it's Obama's fault with no push back from our side, no outraged denials, no finger pointing back, then we may very well lose those who are on the fence.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:00 AM
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8. Fence sitters
ROFLMAO its not about changing the votes.. its about getting those sitting on the fence.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:03 PM
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22. DLC ass-covering for collaborating in the plundering of America.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:09 PM
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23. POW status from when was that... too long ago to matter....
John and Cindy McCain were Charles Keating's good friends.

But it's because 4 of the Keating 5 were Democrats that we hesitate, I think. JSM III was bipartisan in his S&L corrputioneering.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:05 PM
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27. And you didn't appreciate how he fluffed the justice dept into 5 days & not 20 years
and ruined careers of several doctors either as I recall.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:57 AM
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7. You can't have an Old Washington Insider, tainted by bank scandals & impropriety cleaning up Wall St
Fox guarding the henhouse. He can go home to any of his what's it up to now 7 --or 8 luxury houses- and fuck off. This nation has a SERIOUS reckoning ahead of it, and it needs its clearest minds and cleanest leadership to pull it through. That's Barack Obama.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:01 AM
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9. Here's a lovely pic of McCain celebrating his birthday with Keating:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/19/the-picture-mccain-doesnt-want-you-to-see/



Remember this great post bmaz did last week? Remember this really damning picture of McCain celebrating his birthday with Charles Keating, the villain of the last big taxpayer bailout of unrestrained Republican greed? Here's the article where bmaz got that photo (download the whole pdf from The Phoenix Sun Gazette, September 12, 1993).

Apparently, that's a picture and an article that have been all-but buried, until bmaz got a hold of it.

I guess McCain didn't want any proof out that there he's been helping big money rip off taxpayers for his entire career.

And that he looks like an idiot doing it.

Tell us again, Senator McCain, about your integrity and independence from the fat cats and lobbyists who cooked the laws that created this financial fiasco, or about your fitness to lead us out of it. I'm all ears.
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craz3z Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:23 PM
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12. Lovely. NOT.
I just posted about this in another thread. And then to hear him blame OBAMA for the current financial crisis. McCain is no leader. He's another George W. Bush.

LINK

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:24 PM
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13. I was being ironic. NT
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craz3z Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:40 PM
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15. I know. So was I. Sorry!
I was just so glad to see this picture getting around.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:26 AM
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10. Did you say something about the Keating 5?
:P

You are probably right.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:49 AM
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11. Obama should be hitting him hard on this...
I don't know why he is waiting. People have completely forgotten McCain's involvement in the Keating 5. They should be reminded that McCain and his buddies have been altering the rules and fucking up the banking system for years.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:33 PM
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14. K&R McSame = part of the gang!
Keating 5!
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:41 PM
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16. Kicking for very useful information
will help out in some emails I need to write :)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:45 PM
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17. Ignoring the writing on the wall is very costly.
If we had started all this bail out shit when foreclosures started to spike, it could have saved billions.

More bad leadership. More bad judgment.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:47 PM
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18. Excuse me, Heather MC, are you trying to say something about the Keating 5? n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:47 PM
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19. Did you say McKEATING?
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:00 PM
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21. I've been yelling that ever since McShame got the nomination. That and his
BFF Phil Gramm. As corrupt as they come. Major proponents of deregulation and in bed with the big Banking Lobbyist. Why is this not front and center in the press. Why is Obama not yelling this at the top of his lungs. Or if he doesn't want to get his hands dirty, what about all the surrogates on cable news, GET THOSE DAMN TALKING POINTS OUT THERE!!!!! Get "Bulldog Biden" on the stump hammering it home. After the Prez announcement today, McShane with a straight face BLAMED THIS FINANCIAL MELTDOWN ON OBAMA!!!! Said former CEO's of Freddie and Fannie are on Obama's advisory team and he's taken money from them. Lied, lied, and lied some more. Obama was good with his comments today measured, thoughtful worthy of a Presidential candidate. But while Obama's fighting by the Queensbury rules, McShame is street fighting and landing the 1-2 sucker punches that people remember. This is John Kerry all over again, endlessly smeared and we're to polite to hit back until it's too late.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:02 PM
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25. Shhhhhh did I hear someone whisper Keating 5? n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:04 PM
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26. Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5, Keating 5
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:08 PM
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28. "Do you really want a person who helped create the S&L mess running this bailout?"
That's exactly how Obama needs to drop the K5 reference to McSame.
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