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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:58 PM
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I would like a government bail out please.

I am a small business owner, and unfortunately, because of the high cost of living, and the fact that my business was a start-up, and my wife is an elementary teacher (and they don't get paid crap around here), I would like to have some government funds to bail me out of my financial situation.

Yes, I know it was my doing.
Yea, I should not have charged up the credit card like that, and perhaps our mortgage was a bit of a stretch...


$300,000 should do it.

I can assure you that if all my bills were paid, and I could afford to feed and house my family, that I would invest the rest into stocks and bonds, thus propping up the economy some more...


Yes. That would be enough. $300K. A bargain.

Thanks. Looking forward to your swift response and bail out.
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Obamarulz11 Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:59 PM
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1. Me2
I need one too!
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:00 PM
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2. Uhmmm.... Good Luck with that.....
Lemme know how it's working out for you.....
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:00 PM
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3. So would the Midwest, South and Texas
People are still pacing around waiting for decisions to be made. Winter is coming, folks.

Heckuva job.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:01 PM
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4. Stop bailing out the corporate oligarchs and start bailing out their victims.
I can dream, can't I?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:01 PM
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5. Some guy whined on TV that he lost "hundreds of thousands of dollars" in the stock market ...
:eyes: Gee, just one of those hundred thousands would pay off my mortgage. :(
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:02 PM
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6. ditto, here... Though Im not going under. I just bought a house to put my
8.5 year old practice in a year ago.... Im a bit extended.. I think $300K would be the right number for most small businesses (1-25 employees)
Call it a stimulus package...
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:02 PM
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7. hmm. perhaps a petition?

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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:07 PM
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10. Only if you're in the Fortune 100...
Or you INSURE someone who is!:eyes:

B-)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:03 PM
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8. Thanks for your request, but at this time you simply do not count.
Signed,
Your Government

P.S. Be sure to pay your taxes this year even though you're broke, we need your money to bail out more corporations.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:06 PM
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9. Dear Government-

Admittedly I do not count everything...

- I do not count all the times you have said one thing and done the opposite
- I do not count the lies and abuse of power, for they are manyfold
- I do not count those killed in war and natural disaster because you shield me from the truth

But I am starting to think I should.


sincerely,

Joe Public


ps. give me the fucking money!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:10 PM
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11. Let the GOP lecture you about "personal responsibility" now
I can't wait until one of these smarmy fucks talk about how they are tired of Government handouts to the poor. The CEO of my company is one of these people and he is constantly saying "I don't want my money going to the government to fund abortions or help the poor" (typical GOP'er) but he's been very very quiet this week.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:23 PM
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12. You better poke him with a stick
Make sure he's still breathing.

Ask him if he thinks the interest on the money the Fed and Treasury is doling out like party favors would last him a thousand lifetimes.




But step back before his head explodes.




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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:29 PM
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13. Haha, If this wasn't so serious, I would do it
It's tough to take any pleasure out of this, but it's a justification of what we have been saying for years - and many more years previous to my taking up the cause. This is what happens when conservative economic values are put into play.

I think a lot of people are realizing this. I put my resume out there a few weeks back and its quite clear from my background that I'm a liberal and a search of my contributions would bear that out. I've had several calls for very nice executive positions at different companies - some rebuilding and some doing quite well. The reason? Some businesses are catching on that you don't have to be a economic conservative to be a CEO or someone in authority. In fact, many are looking to bring on liberal or liberal-leaning business values to attempt to reverse the course. Kind of like how we do with Presidents - let a Republican run the country into the ground and elect a Democrat to clean it up.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:38 PM
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15.  TornadoTN
TornadoTN

Then this is the moment you maybe have been waiting for a long time.. Polite rember him of his words.. When a few of the biggest Investment Banks is going down, and have to be bailed out by the same government he so despice... I would have been doing that, if I had a boss like that....

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:55 PM
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16. When the opportunity arises, I will seize upon it - rest assured
It will happen, I'm sure of it. He's not a bad guy - in fact, he's probably one of the sharpest business minds I've met and he treats all of our employees and workers very, very good. He just doesn't extend that same courtesy beyond the company. Personally, I think he's being torn apart by all of this. It goes against all he stands for in business and goes against everything that he thought his party stood for.

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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:28 PM
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19. TornadoTN
TornadoTN

I would bet that for the most part, many of the leaders in business are decent, and hardworking and wil their best.. But to be a leader, means more than just taking care of your employers. It means also take care of the socity as a whole too..

I belive you, when you think he is been torn apart what is happending in the US. To be an fiscal conservative, to be carefull is not the same as driving the car out of the cliff as the current republican party and administration have been doing in the US.. I am no econom, but I have to admit, I am rather conservative when it come to fiscal responsibility... And this administration of your, scare the hell out of me... To belive that money can ble printed out of thin air is just.... To stupid to really be taken seriosy... What the republican Party, and the republican led goverment in the US have been doing for the 8 year, should end them in a prison if I had something to say about it... But then I have no say about it, and not in the US..

True.. The republicans of today, is not what the Republican Party of yesterday was standing for... In the 1800s it was the Republican who want to end the slavery.. Today the republican party are willing to go farther back than the slavery of the 1800s to win their goal... Serfdom for the most of you, and priceless freedom and richness for the few lucy ones.. What a wounderfull future that would be... :sarcasm:

Hopefully a really blody nose in the presidental election this year, with a loss of controll in both house and senate can make the Republican party get their act togheter, and tear the illness that have been there since at last the Reagan administration to get out. The Neo-conservative canser illness had to be trown out of the republican party.. And out into the light where the american public as a whole can se it as it is.. A criminal syndicate who have been stealing the US dry.. And even get the companies who have been helping this idelogy of stealing from the american public to pay back, if not everything so at least most of them.. Even it if means that many have to go to prison to get their criminal act to stop...

What I fear if is an new republican president are "elected" in Nov, the would be the end of the US. Becouse then, the president, can do verry harfull thing, becouse they have to.. Marshall law and its like.. Specially if the economy fails as it have lately and the goverment find themself without the trust of the rest of the world.. With an plungering US dollar. Everything is posible, inncluded that the goverment would get into so drastic things as Marshall Law.. It have been happend before in other country. And what I fear is that the US are exception from that...

Diclotican

SOrry my bad english, not my native language
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:48 PM
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20. Thanks for your reply - we are at a crucial point in our history
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 05:49 PM by TornadoTN
I find your view on the U.S. and it's struggles to be extremely fascinating and something that many people here (and elsewhere) should pay particular attention to. Sometimes we get tunnel-vision and see things the way we want to see them, so it's refreshing to hear the view of someone who has some perspective from the outside.

We are in serious trouble here in the U.S., there's no doubt about that. But what defines our nation is our ability to rise above the ashes and reform for the better. We have that opportunity this year in this election - the most important election in my lifetime and perhaps of many lifetimes. What we do in November is going to shape our society far beyond the first or second term of the newly elected President - the courts are at stake and what happens there is so monumental and important that it can't be put into words. Beyond that, we are in dire need of a leader and an icon to support and rally our nation in the tough times ahead - to bring the best out in all of us.

Don't worry about your English, it's just fine for me to understand and better than most natural-born Americans!
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:36 PM
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24. TornadoTN
TornadoTN

I don't know if my wiew are facinating in any way, but I do my best to try to understand what happen in your contry this days... And I am little afraid what came next, if you shoose ill... If another republican Administration, specially with McCain/Palin on the ticket was to be "elected" as the next president/vice president, then I for one, would find a spot in the woods, where I can run for, if it was rumors of war... I know it maybe is little harsh. But before the 2004 election I promised to build myself a little fall out shelter if mr Bush was elected twice... Becouse I really belived that the american public was not that S.T.U.P.I.D to elect the same idiot as president.. And I have to say, I was little disipointed when he was elected..... In the end I was not building that shelter.. I have more than 4 public shelter in an 10km radius.... Yes I have been "reqonised" little for where the shelters are in my back jard, just to be on the safe side of things... And it is important to know it, if the imposible happend... Anyway I am living in a pretty peacefull corner of the world anyway so I guess I am somewhat safe for the madness of "the new american century" as the PNAC crowd wanted to make posible.. To me it look like a nightmare for the rest of the world..:nuke:

US have allway somewhat managed to ge om the top, every time you are going to the ashes.. That is an amazing traditon you have there.. But this time I am verry afraid of what can happen, if US are not woting "right". This election, is maybe the most important election I have ever tried to follow... With my 32 year I am maybe not that old, but it scare the hell out of me, just to think what can happend if a clone of mr Bush jr was to be elected as president.. Been dead by the month and replaced by Ms Palin who really belive the world would end now.. And if that is not happend, will try to help it along that path... That is scaring to me.. really scaring...

In the past, US have allways some how managed to get leaders in bad times, who managed to get thing around.. FDR, Truman (even if he is little more doubtfull in my wiew) JFK just to menchen some.. This time around you have not excactly that option.. But I have to say, if I had the posibility to wote in your election I would withouth a heartbeat woted for mr Obama.. He was not my first shoice of candidates, but compared to mr McCain/Palin, Obama/Beiden looks like a sure bet.... They do have the brain, and it looks like they can manage to get that "spirit" in the US to wake up, and make everything posible... For greefs sake US managed to get the man on the moon.. Why should you then manage to get enough american to understand that mr McCain/Palin is a verry bad shoice, compared to an Obama/Baiden ticket?

I miss the "old america" who I once belived in, I am grown up with the idea of US as a great nation, a country where everything is posible if you just stick your hand to it.. In every part of our culture the US have some part, be it music, movies, cars... I was grow up in the back side of american made cars - to we moved to a place where it was pretty slippery in the winter, and therefore it was not excactly great whit a 2 ton Detroit steel on the road... And even then in the 1980s, the petrol price was hitting new highs and it could be little expensive to drive a 2 ton V8 engine... Today it looks like a sharm periode.. Vith 4-5 kr a liter... Today the price is 13 kr a liter!! or like 2:38 for one liter of petrol..
I miss the feeling that US was one country we could trust. A country who acted as our "big brother" somewhat, who we could work with on any level.. I am maybe naive here, but I do belived that the US was a great country compared to the rest of the crowd.. I really belived US to be an country who was doing thing better for the rest of the world, specially our own little part of the world. Compared to the rest, US war pretty kind to Europe after the war (ww2) and many was given "free loan" to build up what was bombed down and out in the war... And that is have not be forgotten either.. Even in the startup to the war...

I miss the old America, we could se to. Maybe little naive here, but I do belive that the US once was standing for many thing that was right - in theory then.. Even that your goverment was doing pretty many evil things in the past, somehow the "magic from the US" was there... From the old movie pictures to the Twin Towers.. From Mayflower, to the Space Shuttle.. I even wrote a essay once in my first grade, where I wanted to came to US to be an astronaut:bounce: Wel that was a dream I never exactly managed to get to then.. But I still have the essay somehwere.. Funny to read then..

US have a lot of the stake this time around.. Your are in DEAR NEED of another government, who are more willing to lisen to your friends and allied.. And posible also, to UNDERSTAND who are your friends, and who are not your friend.. You have a continent here in Europe who have been waiting for a sane leadership in the US for allmoust 8 year.. And I fear if you wote "wrong" this time around, the EU just have to work closer to get THEIR act togheter, and not to trust US as they have been for the past 60 year.. The current administration was burning a lot of brigdes before the Iraqi War.. And I would hate to se every brigde between Europe and US been destroyed before 2012.. What the US need more than ever is this dam brigdes over the atlantic, so europe and US can help eatch other in many of the problems we face toghter.. We can fight the "good fight" and build a better peacefully world.. But the US have to prove for the rest of the world, that the 8 year with mr Bush jr, was something you regret.. 8 year with that madness mr Bush have been given you, and our world is enough.. I for one can't for a second understand why enough american managed to wote that ex drug and alcohol adiced man to be your President... A man with less offences at his public record would have no shance in hell to be elected to other than a small town leader in our parts of the world... But in the US the same man can be woted President, the most powerfull part in the whole US.. And as President in the US, also the most powerfully man in the whole World...

As I say before.. If mr McCain/Palin really was to be woted President and vice President in the US, I have to seriousy thinking about places to hide myself and my family if war broke loose... I know a few places where I can hide myself and my family, but then I maybe have to get some food, water and other things who is important if the war is broking out even in little peacefully Norway... I fear a republican leadership in the US..
The economical problems you have today, can be worse for the time coming.. I for one have never even thougt about the fact, that this economical stupidity that your current administration have been playing the last 8 year, are verry similar to the stupidity that the republicans was playing before the great depression in the 1930s.. But compared to then, a economical meltdown would be far worse than it was then... The world are so mutch more inter-linked now than it was then... And in worst case scenario, if the US dollar was to flateline, the rest of the world could close you out of the whole thing.. US as every one else economy in the world need trust to exist. If the trust not exist.... What happend next then?.. Should US DEMAND that the rest prop up the US dollar? I doubt that wil work verry long time.. Even with the treath of a nuclear strike..

I hope you would do the right thing this time around.. And if you have another stolen election, dont just sit there and say "o, we can fight them next time". Do as many other in the world have been doing, if the government have trying to steal another election.. Get Out and fight them. No goverment are imune to public pressure.. Not even a Neo-Conservative goverment... The Noe-cons have to learn that they could just manage to steal elections so many times.. And no more.. You have to fight for your own survival here, not just for an candidate, but also for the FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES as an DEMOCRATIC Republic who have great and deep ties to Europe... Please try to do the right this time around.. I fear, really fear what can happend if you don't..

When it come to english, I have been told, that I at least is better english writing than your current President... Not that that soud so mutch:P. But it sound at least better than he is doing.. It is more like a friendly warning to everyone. That I am not a native speaker in english..

Diclotican

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:31 PM
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14. I rarely watch the show "The View" anymore, but today Whoopi said the same thing...
that people who have mortgages they can't afford should be given a bail out.

Why not? And while they are at it, they should bail the rest of us out too. O8)
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:58 PM
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18. They should buy all of the middle-classes' houses
It would make much more sense - free up dollars to be spent in the economy. Like an economic stimulus package that actually would see its way back into our economy.

Much better spent than propping up these corpses of companies - its a band-aid on the Hoover Dam.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:54 PM
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22. lets just call off all debt and start over!


we will have the cards all filled up again in 6 months-

win win!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:57 PM
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17. Sorry. Here's how the Repuke mindset works:
"Tax Money for someone other than middle class to rich white guys like me = socialism".

"Tax Money to bail out corporations and the wealthy that I'll be running and part of someday = fiscal responsibility"

Everyone got that? Good. Find your nearest Republican and kick him/her in the ass.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 05:51 PM
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21. Thanks for the clarification, HB...
Always good to brush up on basics!

Cheers -- :toast:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:36 PM
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23. There's nothing worse than a stupid Republican pretending to be smart . . .
. . . or is it pauper Republicans that refuse to accept that they're peasants?

:P
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