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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:41 AM
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Drill, baby, drill....right in the path of the hurricanes.
The Democrats let it happen. Did they have to even bring it up for a vote? I did not think so.

Think Katrina, Rita, Gustav, Ike....right up the Gulf of Mexico. That doesn't even count the ones from 2004 that devastated Florida and gave us natural gas shortages and fuel shortages because the rigs were in the path of the hurricanes.

Their thinking on this just eludes me, I can not figure it out. Going along to get along...not wanting to upset the opposition. Instead of standing and speaking out on it, they went along.

The funny part is that the Republicans are not satisfied. It is not enough, too little for them. The more we cave to them, they less they are satisfied.

House approves offshore drilling bill but skeptical Republicans raise objections

The fate of the legislation, which Republican members contended would produce little new domestic oil, remains uncertain. The politically sensitive issue of offshore drilling may only be resolved as part of a budget bill that Congress must approve before it adjourns at month's end.

The measure, which was approved 236-189, would allow states to authorize drilling 50 to 100 miles from their coasts. The federal government would be allowed to approve drilling 100 to 200 miles from shore.

Nevertheless, the Democratic plan failed to placate most Republicans, who argued that it would not open up areas closer to the coasts with potential to provide more oil and gas. And they want to lift bans on drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Republicans also said the proposal did not offer states incentives to approve new drilling off their coasts because it did not allow them to share the oil royalties with the federal government.

House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio said the plan "won't do a damn thing about American energy.


They surely know how to play us.

Here is the Senate Gang of 10 which is now the Gang of 20. This is the plan Obama went along with.

The measure now goes to the Senate, where a bipartisan group of 20 lawmakers has been working on a compromise that would lift a drilling ban in the eastern Gulf near Florida, and allow Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Virginia to approve offshore drilling.


This bill will give Florida no choice...drilling will be done right up to 50 miles off shore.

RIGHT IN THE PATH OF THE HURRICANES

Obama supports the offshore drilling plan of the Gang of 10. Some details...

Obama also said, in a separate statement issued by his campaign, that he supported the bipartisan energy plan offered by 10 senators Friday.

"Like all compromises, it also includes steps that I haven't always supported," he said. "I remain skeptical that new offshore drilling will bring down gas prices in the short term or significantly reduce our oil dependence in the long term, though I do welcome the establishment of a process that will allow us to make future drilling decisions based on science and fact."

The proposal would end most of the ban on drilling. It would allow a 50-mile buffer on the East Coast, as well as Florida's Gulf Coast. Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia and South Carolina would be permitted to start oil and natural gas exploration outside the buffer.

....."The Gang of 10 proposal would encourage states to allow drilling off their shores by sharing some of the federal offshore royalty revenues with the states. But unlike the other four states, Florida would not get a choice on whether to allow drilling off its coasts. When asked why not, Chambliss said, "It's only a logical extension of what's happening in the Gulf right now. Plus, that area has been identified as an area where resources are available right now."


Only 50 miles offshore in the most hurricane prone states. Common sense just is overflowing in Congress.




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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:58 AM
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1. There is still 2 and a half months left of the 2008 hurricane season!!!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:15 AM
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5. And it's been a lively one.
As bad as 2004.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:59 AM
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7. Wasn't it October when Wilma came close?
We had a power outage and it was miles away from us. And it was cold outside that day.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:42 PM
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16. There may be another one next week
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:59 AM
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2. They should drill their skulls and let out the evil spirits addling their brains.
Really.
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 02:28 AM
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4. SO....DRILL BABY DRILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On the west coast! Right off of Santa Barbara! There is much oil to be had. It wont happen. Our peeps keep saying no. There is no way! Our Cal. Gray Whales migrate this way. That shit keeps seeping up out of the ground, it really pisses me off. I get so tiered of cleaning off my feet with mineral
oil or tar off.
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mmnnbb Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:49 PM
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9. Gray whales migrate???
There are people all over this country who are not able to feed their kids and your worried about gray whales.

It pisses you off? Are you going to sue mother earth for seeping oil onto a beach so you have to walk on it?

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:18 PM
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11. I am not sure of your point. Mother Nature causes enough problems without drilling and causing more
And by the way, it's "you're" not "your". Home schooling??
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Anexio Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:24 PM
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18. Funny!
Oh god Rick, you're one of those people that pounce on a grammatical or spelling error and then attempt discredit their point. I love how you point out the lack of an apostrophe and the letter "E" makes the posters point moot. Brilliant!!

How original! How wonderfully empathetic of you!

You 'da man, Rick! You are definitely the man.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:26 PM
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12. I love gray whales.
God put them on earth for us to take care of them.

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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:29 PM
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15. Thanks to the corruption and actions of the republicans
And the crossover democrats.   Once these people gain their
wealth and power they will do as they d... well please to gain
more and keep it.

Senator Feinstein is a supporter of the war and funding it....
Isn't her husband a contractor??

FROM A WEB SITE ABOUT FEINSTEIN'S TIES TO BUSH.....
http://codepinkdc.blogspot.com/2007/11/shame-on-you-feinstein.html

She claims she's voting for Mukasey  (WE NOW KNOW IT WAS THE
WORST CHOICE POSSIBLE) because Bush might appoint someone
worse during the recess. LET HIM! Congress's approval rating
is 11% ... Bush's is 28%. Do you think this low rating might
have something to do with the spineless nature of Congress?
You had an opportunity to take the moral high road and show
the world the United States Congress does not approve of
torture. Why didn't you take it, Dianne ... what did Bush
offer you on that helicopter ride over fire-ravaged
California? http://www.kesq.com/global/story.asp?s=7265981

 Are you concerned that Schwarzenegger might run against you
in 2012 and you're looking for some Republican support? Or
maybe you're concerned about your husband's two contracting
businesses in Iraq, Perini and URS 
***
http://www.metroactive.com/feinstein/ 
Senator Feinstein's Iraq Conflict
As a member of the Military Construction Appropriations
subcommittee, Sen. Feinstein voted for appropriations worth
billions to her husband's firms 



 What about us Dianne ... your constituents!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 02:27 AM
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3. Not going to happen
Too much capital costs and too much risk. Why do that when you're making record profits shipping the product from your oil station in the ME? I think the Republican Party has now gotten all of the mileage they'll get in what passes as their big energy plan. Big Oil had no problems with Republicans using this as a campaign tool or even legislating this, but that's not the same as actually drilling. This does nothing to solve the immediate problems or address the root cause of why oil has skyrocketed. But if we repeal the subsidies for Big Oil and use that to invest in alternative/renewable energy....it's a net win for this country.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 03:25 PM
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6. I just saw a headline that the WH says it is not enough and won't work.
I just hate the cave-ins.
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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:23 PM
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17. That is why they paid millions of dollars to politicians
To  pass the off shore drilling bill...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:09 PM
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8. Floridians no longer favor tourists and great beaches...it's "drill baby drill"
Florida increasingly takes to McCain's view on offshore drilling


Fuel prices have Floridians rethinking their opposition to offshore drilling. (Ryan K. Morris/Bloomberg)

CALADESI ISLAND, Florida: The dolphins and pelicans that swim off Caladesi Island's linen-white sands along Florida's western coast help draw almost 80 million visitors and $57 billion to the "Sunshine State" each year.

But energy companies say that an even bigger prize waits to be taken from the seabed just 50 miles, or 80 kilometers, from shore in the Gulf of Mexico: oil and natural gas that might wean the United States off its costly dependence on resources from potentially unfriendly or unstable countries.

After opposing offshore drilling for a quarter of a century on the basis that it would be a threat to their lucrative coastline, a majority of Floridians now favor it, polls show. Gasoline prices of four dollars a gallon, or about a dollar a liter, hit voters' pocketbooks and psyches, even as the U.S. government said that offshore drilling would have a negligible effect on the supply and price of oil.
At a Hess gas station on the mainland near Caladesi, Gerald Walker said he used to be against extracting oil off the Florida coast, until gasoline prices soared. "Drilling? At $3.64 a gallon, I'm all for it," said Walker, a 60-year-old accountant.

"Drill, baby, drill!" is now the rallying cry of the Republican Party, and the party's presidential candidate, Senator John McCain of Arizona, is gaining support with that cry, even in this coastal swing state.


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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:50 PM
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10. So Palin is saying to Drill?
But of course she is for the little guy, and against big Oil.
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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:17 PM
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13. Why do you believe oil prices have gone up
Besides of course their profit , it is now profitable from
them to drill places which cost them to much before.  You know
they are not patriotic they are greedy..

Now it is profitable for Oil Companies to convert coal to oil
, "OFF SHORE DRILLING" and now they can use methods
which were to expenses before.

Corporations have shown that they have no respect for people
or our country , so now we have democrats jumping in bed with
corporations.

We have to make these DEMOCRATS pay at the polls for their
actions.

Pelosi , Reid and the blue dogs have to go.   If not,, we the
voters are agreeing with their actions.
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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:17 PM
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14. Why do you believe oil prices have gone up
Besides of course their profit , it is now profitable from
them to drill places which cost them to much before.  You know
they are not patriotic they are greedy..

Now it is profitable for Oil Companies to convert coal to oil
, "OFF SHORE DRILLING" and now they can use methods
which were to expenses before.

Corporations have shown that they have no respect for people
or our country , so now we have democrats jumping in bed with
corporations.

We have to make these DEMOCRATS pay at the polls for their
actions.

Pelosi , Reid and the blue dogs have to go.   If not,, we the
voters are agreeing with their actions.
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:48 PM
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19. You drill where the oil and gas deposits are located.
We have about 50 years experience with it.
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