Why Did McCain/Palin Approve Charging Rape Victims For Medical Exams? (An Email To Share)

[ihavenobias]

Why Did McCain/Palin Approve Charging Rape Victims For Medical Exams?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmk6BSUwEA

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-health-and-money/2008/9/10/sarah-palin-and-the-rape-kit-question.html

If someone tells you that Palin never "approved" of charging, you need to ask them why she never bothered to repeal the law in the first place in light of the circumstances. As it says in the video above, there better be an incredibly good explanation. And for their sake I sure hope it's better than :

"...While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests...

Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams...."

PS---Palin also said . Only time will tell if we'll hear about these issues on television news. I say television news because about 74% of Americans report television as their primary news source. If they don't hear it there, they probably won't ever hear it...that is unless you share this email with them.

[CherylK]

1. K & R!!! I had heard about Palin but I did not know about the McCain and Biden stuff!

I will email this out, thanks for posting!

:yourock:

[ihavenobias]

10. Even most DUers don't seem to know about McCain's role (and Biden's good role) n/t

[hisownpetard]

2. K&R. Sending all over the place! How repugnant these Repugs are.

[ihavenobias]

13. Great, that's what I like to hear. Email this far and wide! n/t

[hisownpetard]

15. ...

:yourock:

[matthewf]

3. k to the r

[jgraz]

4. Error: You've already recommended that thread

:P

[ihavenobias]

18. Shame on you, I expected at least two from you

;)

[chatnoir]

5. K&R

This is outrageous and needs widespread coverage.

[ihavenobias]

20. It NEEDS widespread coverage but aside from us sending this email out, it won't get it n/t

[chatnoir]

22. I know it prob won't but

we can only try.

[DeepModem Mom]

6. K&R!

[opihimoimoi]

7. Disgusting...like Alaska is the richest State and cannot afford this? Gimme a Break

She is sumpthin else

[cliffordu]

8. K and R

[beac]

9. K&R. I 've found a LOT of people are unaware of this and we need to get it out. It's

a fact that should outrage ALL women regardless of where they stand on abortion.

And for her police chief to say that 'the rapists should pay' just proves how out-of-touch he is. HOW are you going to make them pay before you convict the man who did it? What if they are never caught? What if the woman couldn't afford the fee and therefore waived the kit???? Arrggghhh-- I just want to SCREAM thinking about it.

[TorchTheWitch]

14. It outrages men too

Let's not forget that men have mothers, sisters, daughters, female friends and co-workers, etc. and would be just as outraged if someone they knew/love was raped and subjected to such disgusting treatment as to have to pay for their own forensic tests.

This issue was the ONE thing that finally got through to two male customers I spoke with at work where nothing else seemed to really move them... they were both completely LIVID at this barbarity.

[beac]

16. Of course, you are right.

I was mostly thinking about all those 'white women' who are (allegedly) flocking to McInsane b/c of Palin.

Glad to hear the info is getting out there and making an impact!

[CherylK]

58. You said it!

:patriot:

[ihavenobias]

26. Right, the vast majority of people aren't. Even most DUers might not know about the McCain/Biden

connection.

I have to admit I'm surprised this thread has been stuck on 21 recs for hours now. People have different priorities I guess?

:)

[lonestarnot]

36. Passing the word at restaurants, bars, neighborhoods!

K'd and R'd earlier! Thanks IHNBS

[riverdeep]

28. It says plain as day.

he doesn't agree with it. I assume his hands are tied.

[beac]

32. I'm not sure what you mean by 'he doesn't agree with it.'

What he doesn't agree with is the legislation written to FORCE Wasilla to stop charging rape victims. He wanted the VICTIMS to pay, not the taxpayers and is pissed about the new law.

Also, they were NOT charging under the old police chief Palin fired and he began charging when she made this guy Chief.



If we are on the same page on this, I apologize in advance for not understanding your reply.

[ihavenobias]

35. Right n/t

[riverdeep]

43. Yeah, I'm the one having the comprehesion problem.

I wrote out a whole lengthy reply while surfing to improve my reading comprehension and found so much interesting stuff I'm going to turn it into a post. Not sure if anyone will read it, but lookout for it.

[beac]

45. No worries. It's easy to get turned around with so much info flying and so much on the line.

Feel free to PM me with a link when you post and I promise to read it. :pals:

[formercia]

11. Mooselini and McLame are one of the same mindset

God help this country if they get in power.

[Maestro]

12. How would this even become an issue?

Forensic tests are part of many investigations. Why would anyone specifically oppose using money to determine who raped someone. This is horrible. She turns my stomach.

[ihavenobias]

49. Good point n/t

[OhioChick]

17. K&R

:kick:

[pleah]

19. K&R I hadn't heard about this legislation about rape victims.

See, this is another example of not having to get in the dirt to put the truth out there about McCrazy.
Voting against women again!

Obama should put this in an ad immediately!

[democracy1st]

21. K & R

[chatnoir]

23. Update

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7047319

[chat_noir]

24. "Palin believes life begins at rape"

"Part of the reason Palin did not support paying for forensic kits is at the end of the rape exam the victim is offered emergency contraception.

Despite what the McSame campaign is saying, she took this incredible stance to be consistent with her view that government should require victims of rape and/or incest to carry the babies of criminals to term."


http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/523708.html comment

[ihavenobias]

46. Thanks n/t

[lostnfound]

47. That would be a horrifying but powerful connection to make,

if it is indeed the reason why Palin failed to reverse the policy.

I suspect you are right.

[lonestarnot]

25. Sharing! Sharing! Sharing! K and R'ing!

What a fuckrod she is!

[LaStrega]

27. I knew that Biden ...

Had proposed legislation on this, and that as recently as last year McSame voted against said legislation. I could have guessed McPalin's stance. What kind of mother would force her daughter to pay for her own rape kit, then if she were pregnant after the rape, force her to carry the child to term. The woman is a fucking MONSTER!

:kick: & rec and emailed-o-rama

[riverdeep]

29. That's one way to balance the budget.

Except she didn't do that either. Her town was millions of dollars in debt after she left.

"When Palin left office in 2002, Wasilla had “racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt,” or roughly $3,000 of debt per resident."

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/09/03/wasilla-in-debt/

[G_j]

30. K&R!

[mentalsolstice]

31. It's bad enough that most rape survivors don't report

This would have a chilling effect on women who report. I'm a rape response advocate, and I often sit through 1-3 rape exams per month. I cannot imagine, at the end of such an exam, saying "will you pay for this with cash or credit." The Dr.s and nurse practitioners that do these exams are experts and have to be paid for their time, as they're usually on-call 24/7 for weeks on end. Then there is the equipment that aids them in identifying smallest of injuries in an bodily area (the down there) that is difficult to examine on the best of days, and the lab work (DNA ID) isn't cheap, and the state labs are often months behind.

I'm appalled that Palin did not call the police commissioner on this, and I'm even more appalled that McCain voted against reauthorization of VAWA. I also worked for a DV shelter for a couple of years, and my supervisor had a closed audience with Biden about VAWA, and she was blown away by his compassion and knowledge of the issues.

I can't believe there are women (and men) in this country that are supporting these lipsticked pigs.

[ihavenobias]

51. Excellent post n/t

[lonestarnot]

33. kick!

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

34. kick! GO YOUNG TURKS! YOU ROCK!

:kick: :yourock:

[AZBlue]

37. Anyone who opposes abortion in cases of rape & incest needs their head examined.

Those who want to then bill the victims for exams need don't need their heads examined, they're already obviously unstable.

[ihavenobias]

52. I think most Americans feel that way, but the MSM is too scared to say it n/t

[CherylK]

38. Bump!

:kick:

[kestrel91316]

39. In all fairness, McCain couldn't have had anything to do with it.

[ihavenobias]

41. Uh oh...I hope everyone is checking out that first link I posted and not just reading the subject

line.

Watch the video, it explains the role of McCain (and Biden, in a good way).

[beac]

44. Watch the TYT YouTube clip in the OP.

In fact, McCain voted AGAINST similar legislation to protect rape victims NATIONWIDE from having to pay for their own rape kits.

He's AS gulity, if not more.

John McCain is SCUM.

[G_j]

40. great post, thanks!

nothing like telling the truth..

[beac]

42. "Error: You've already recommended that thread." Damn right -and I'll keep on kicking it too!

Arrggh! I can't believe ANYONE can defend her on this, but SURE ENOUGH there are some 'free market' Repukes spewing their 'life isn't fair' meme all over the TYT YouTube clip.

:banghead:

[ihavenobias]

57. YouTube comments are the worst

For some reason the least intelligent right wingers make a point to leave comments.

[Solly Mack]

48. K&R

[CherylK]

50. Bump!

:kick:

[sattahipdeep]

53. James Dobson Dick DeVos Edgar Prince Erik Prince

On what Dobson calls "the radical homosexual agenda," her views are no less certain. She opposes same-sex marriage and supported a constitutional amendment to ban the practice in Alaska. She opposes spousal benefits for domestic partners and opposes extending hate crime laws to protect gays and lesbians. Her local Wasilla church is promoting Dobson's upcoming Alaska conference on curing homosexuality through the power of prayer.


http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080912/OPINION12/809120381/1002/OPINION


On television news, Americans watch polar bears desperately swimming to find melting ice floes, as Palin opposes the Interior Department's listing the bear as endangered.

[beac]

54. Evening kick!

[lonestarnot]

55. Kick!

[CherylK]

56. Bump!

:kick:

[Taverner]

59. Because a woman doesn't get raped unless she's asking for it

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[libodem]

60. And think of all the rapes that happen in the military

and by KBR employees hired through the State Department, will those women have to pay for their rape kits too, if she makes it into the White House? Will women in the military be denied emergency medication preventing the implantation of an embryo if one is accidentally conceived during a rape. She is heinous, barbaric, and medieval.