I am getting a horrid feeling that NOTHING is going to stick to Palin...

[Imagine My Surprise]

...short of a felony conviction. I get a feeling that the bar has been raised even higher as to what bullshit people will accept from a candidate, no matter how insipid or contradictory. What scares me is that I believe it is one-sided -- that if Palin were a Democrat, she would probably not still be in the race or would at least be severely handicapped by the various, documented revelations that have come out about her.

And if Obama's church claimed that Illinois would be a fortress for Armageddon, HE would not be a candidate by now.

[Kitty Herder]

1. We need to make sure the truth about her keeps getting thrown at her.

Eventually some of it is bound to stick.

[Imagine My Surprise]

2. I hope you are right n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

39. She is a sociopath.

[YOY]

3. It's sticking but remember who is watching and who she is appealing to: Fundies.

They love her schtick.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. And I am getting the feeling...

That one hell of a lot of folks need to toughen up and get to work locally, rather than sitting around and making up scenarios of their darkest fears and suspicions.

[Imagine My Surprise]

8. I'm not making up scenarios...I am watching what is happening n/t

[YOY]

5. It's sticking but remember who is watching and who she is appealing to: Fundies.

They love her schtick.

[Overseas]

6. She's been marketed like a Sitcom Darling.

Are there any totally deluded sitcom darlings?
Or cutie on the outside, vicious on the inside types?

[Imagine My Surprise]

14. I actually worked on a VERY popular sitcom and saw a total unknown become an overnight hit...

via marketing. I know how this works.

[boomerbust]

32. Sitcom Darling

Ms. Palin reminds me of Aunt Esther on Sanford and Son. I am just waiting for Her to say to McCain, "You old fish-eyed fool. Oh glory".

[Earth_First]

7. The problem is, that folks are tired of 'tabloid-politics' so they've quit paying attention...

What we need to do is get back to fact-based politics again.

Here's a good one:

Sarah Palin fumbles on Fannie, Freddie

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3477330

[Imagine My Surprise]

10. the Fannie fumble is my POINT! among others! It really doesn't matter...

to a lot of people, whether she knew that or NOT.

[doc03]

15. The average swing voter doesn't know Fannie and

Freddie from Ellie Mae and Jethro. That's the problem with Democrats they think the average voter can think. All the average middle class swing state voter is interested in now is the score of the latest football games.

[Imagine My Surprise]

17. thank you!

[sandnsea]

22. That's very true re Fannie/Freddie

Except I know upper income Republicans do know the difference - and they don't care about it either.

[Lorien]

24. The average American NEVER tires of tabloid crap

if they did the tabloids wouldn't be hot sellers at the checkout, and Inside Edition would have gone off the air years ago. The average American cares not a bit about the issues; if the did, Bush would have never made it into office, and John Edwards would still have a great career. Hit them on the issues AND the tabloid nonsense that appeals to the average idiot with an IQ under 100.

[undeterred]

40. Exactly. And the National Enquirer will take care of this...

There is plenty of dirt on her and I don't doubt that its true. This stuff will be at eye level in the supermarket checkout lanes before November 4 when the low information voters are filling their carts with Halloween candy. I don't think they'll vote for the woman who gave a speech with her amniotic fluid leaking and lied about her DS baby.

[Happyhippychick]

9. I dunno. This Pentecostal stuff that's brewing sounds like trouble for her.

[Imagine My Surprise]

12. Yet this is energizing McCain's numbers even though we KNOW she will never be president n/t

[honkydonkey]

11. They believe what they want to believe.

I have learned the hard way that it doesn't matter if you have the truth staring them in the face, they will simply turn their heads, put their fingers in their ears and go la la la la. Once they have their minds made up the trap door slams shut and that's that. The only thing that would ruin that woman with the republican party is if they caught her in bed with a black man. Oh Heaven FORBID. hee hee.

[slackmaster]

13. The tabloid stuff about sex and babies and all that crap won't stick

But her stands on real issues like abortion, education, science, health care, environment, etc. will.

[Imagine My Surprise]

16. then why is there a small margin of difference in polls between McCain and Obama? n/t

[slackmaster]

19. I doubt that Palin will have much effect on that in the long run

There is a small margin of difference between the Presidential candidates because the voting public is evenly divided and deeply polarized.

[Tarheel_Dem]

23. Geez...I hate you overly "concerned" people who only show up to

bring down the rest of the board. What have you done, specifically, besides posting your "concern" on an anonymous message board? Some of us are on to the occasional poster who only shows up to gauge the tenor of the board, so they can run off to their other boards and tell them how scared we all are over at DU. Ever hear of a convention "bounce"? Is this your first election?

Thanks for all you do.....:eyes:

[Codeine]

30. The voice of reason.

It's a fine thing. :hi: You rock, Tarheel_Dem!

Jeezus, it's like these people have no history at all. Did they honestly believe that we were going to walk away with the election? No ups and downs? No struggle?

Damn.

[baby_mouse]

18. Everything's sticking to her ALREADY, That's why she isnt giving press conferences!

Pf!

[ComplimentarySwine]

20. So what is the solution? n/t

[tableturner]

31. Do what the GOP does to us...is the solution!

Every gaffe, small, large, or imagined (usually ginned up nonsense), by a Democrat brings out a huge slew of right wingers to pounce on the gaffe, or if not a gaffe, to twist and mis-characterize a statement or situation in a way that hurts the Democrats. These right wingers come out in unison, make the same statements in unison, and beat the drum over and over and over until it becomes the "truth" in the minds of much of the public.

Our party, on the other hand, thinks that a positive campaign is best, that attacking the other candidates runs off voters, often says that they "won't dignify 'that' with a response", and is generally chicken.

This person Palin is a total radical right winger with positions that would cripple McCain's campaign if we exposed the public to them. About 70% of the public is adamantly against what she stands for. But our party is afraid to expose her. If the roles were reversed, the moment she was announced as the VP pick, the airwaves would be alive with those of the other party pounding and pounding and pounding home the message to the public that she was dangerous, a radical, a horrible person who is not equipped to hold office (even dog catcher), and on and on and on.

The conventions of four years ago are a perfect example. The pundits said before the Democratic convention "They'd better not go too negative or they will turn off the voters.....". So we had a mealy mouth wimpy convention. Then a couple of weeks later the GOP had their convention and did nothing but attack our candidate with garbage lies, and did so relentlessly, which crippled our chances to win.

It's time to expose her for what she stands for. I'm not saying lie about her. I'm not saying we should distort what she stands for, like they do to us. No, just expose the truth, and she will be seen for what she is: an electric speech reader who knows almost nothing about foreign policy, who is a Pat Robertson right wing radical, who is against abortion even in cases of rape and incest, who would outlaw birth control pills as an abortificant, who fired a librarian in an effort to censor books, who wants to teach conservative Christian ideology in the science classrooms, who abuses power by trying to get her former brother in law fired because of family disputes, and on and on.

But no......we are afraid to attack her with the truth, because if we did so, the GOP automatons would relentlessly frame our honest attacks on her real record as sleazy personal attacks, which would hurt us, and would do so because we are weenies afraid to go hard exposing the truth.

[javadu]

21. THE ELECTION IS ABOUT MCCAIN!!!! n/t

[baby_mouse]

25. Oh yes, but I just cant help but WORRY! don't YOU?

My goodness, my hands are just sore with the WRINGING.











:sarcasm:

[Codeine]

28. We're doomed, I tell you,

DOOOMED!!

:evilgrin:

[marions ghost]

26. Watch

it play out.

She was a disastrous pick for McCain. That will become clear.

[Codeine]

27. Of COURSE nothing is going to stick to her!

That's why she was chosen. DUH! So much energy expended to no end with you people.

That's why we need to start ignoring the stupid whackjob and focus on our own candidate. Barack Obama is a magnificent individual -- remember his acceptance speech, how amazing, how electrifying it was? THAT'S how we win the election, not by harping endlessly on some backwoods bint with a rifle fetish.

[tableturner]

35. Don't ignore the whack job!

Expose the whack job! They don't ignore our candidates. They attack them endlessly with lies, and the lies stick. We don't even attack our opponents with the horrible truth, and that's why Bush beat us. They drag our candidates down so much with lies that vast numbers of people are afraid to vote for them. We avoid telling the truth about their candidates, even though the truth will kill them in the eyes of those in the middle of the political spectrum.

Please......no more Robert Shrum "I won't dignify that with a response" and "We're afraid we will turn off the voters by going negative with the truth"....please!

How many times will we let ourselves get our asses kicked before we learn?

Edited for spelling.

[Codeine]

38. There's nothing to expose!

There's no "there" there. She's a cipher, an empty space onto which anything they want can be projected. All of the "negatives" just aren't that damned negative; she's a religious conservative from the rural north with all that implies.

People aren't going to hate her for that. Sorry. It ain't gonna happen.

[EFerrari]

29. Oh, stuff is sticking all right. CNN ran that awful video about her church

and about her lies about the bridge to nowhere. Don't worry.

[tableturner]

33. What do you mean, don't worry?

Why leave it to CNN and others to expose her? Why not trot out all our surogates in unison, all saying the same thing, and hang her on her own positions, deeds and actions?

Sure, most people vote only based on the presidential candidates. But this year can be different because the public knows that there is a much higher than usual chance that Palin will become president due to McCain's age. Her nuttiness can be their undoing, if we would just tell the truth, and do so relentlessly.

[EFerrari]

34. Worry is not a strategy. It's a reaction. n/t

[tableturner]

36. Okay, worry is not a strategy....

But the worry can catalyze action to defeat what we are worrying about. Let's fight back!

[BronxBoy]

37. Guess we should just pack it it then

Game over.