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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:54 PM
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RUPERT MURDOCH: Basic problem with Muslims is they marry their cousins.
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/10/wolff200810?printable=true¤tPage=all


Tuesdays with Rupert
Since buying The Wall Street Journal, Rupert Murdoch has talked freely with the author about his business, his family, and the future. (There was serious gossip, too.) It’s an unparalleled look at the 77-year-old mogul, transformed by his marriage to Wendi Deng, yet utterly, unapologetically himself.
by Michael Wolff October 2008

F or nine months, I’ve been interviewing Rupert Murdoch, in an unlikely spirit of openness precipitated by his great satisfaction in having bought The Wall Street Journal, about journalism, his business, politics, his family, and the future for a new biography. I was warned about his charm by many other journalists—warned not to fall victim to it. So the surprise was his lack of it. He’s without introspection and self-analysis and doesn’t like to talk about the past. What’s more, he mumbles terribly (and with a heavy Aussie accent) and seldom finishes a sentence. For the first three months of our interviews, he never addressed a word to or even looked at my research assistant, Leela de Kretser, who was at each of the sessions, and ignored her questions—perhaps because it’s not necessary to acknowledge a girl, or possibly because it was embarrassing for him that she was, at the time, a pregnant girl. (She had the baby. He eventually warmed up.)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:55 PM
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1. Oh, yeah. That explains a lot. Rudy 9iu11ani is a Muslim. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:57 PM
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2. Not that uncommon ..people do it here too
probably distant cousins, but where there are large families in small communities, especially isolated communities, it's kind of a given..

FDR married his cousin, IIRC. He and his family turned out pretty ok, didn;t they?
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:19 PM
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5. I don't think you'll find too
many Repubs who think well of FDR or Eleanor. Repubs are STILL trying to dismantle FDR's social safetynet programs.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:58 PM
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3. I've seen Yahoo Serious. You gonna tell me Australians don't marry their cousins? n/t
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:29 PM
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7. No they, just father a child with their own daughter.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 04:31 PM by PunkinPi
Remember this Rupert?--> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3697361.ece

(Not implying all Australians do this)

edit: bad grammar
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:02 PM
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4. That's just dumb. The problem is that they have not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. ( nt )
umm... sarcasm...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:31 PM
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9. No, I think it's that they refuse to eat pork.
Everyone knows your brain needs pork in order to fully develop.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:24 PM
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6. Psychologists would ask him if his mommy abuse him in some way when he was small.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 04:25 PM by nc4bo
Murdoch is nasty, old, greedy and powerful bastard - did I say he was old?

Arrrrghh, as KO would say.

ETA - changed beat to abuse to cover everything imaginable.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:31 PM
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8. As Big Dick once said:
"Go fuck yourself."
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:34 PM
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10. As with much of the unsubstantiated drivel that comes from his media
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 04:42 PM by Cleita
empire, I have to assume that he pulled that factoid out of his ass too.

On edit: What a puff piece. Vanity Fair could do better.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:53 AM
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12. Not because of the religion, but it may be a problem in some communities
eg

An investigation by BBC Newsnight claims that British Pakistanis account for 30% of all British children with recessive disorders, which include cystic fibrosis. Dr Peter Corry, a consultant paediatrician at Bradford royal infirmary, says his hospital sees a disproportionately high rate of recessive genetic illnesses.

He and his team have identified about 140 different autosomal recessive disorders among local children and they estimate that a typical district would see between 20 and 30.
...
Birmingham primary care trust estimates that one in 10 of all children born to first-cousin marriages in the city's Pakistani community either dies in infancy or goes on to suffer serious disability as a result of recessive genetic disorders. Recessive genetic illness is one of the main reasons for admission to Birmingham's children's hospital.

The variant genes that cause recessive genetic illnesses tend to be rare. In the general population, the likelihood of a couple having the same variant gene is 100-1. In cousin marriages, if one partner has a variant gene, the risk that the other has it too is more likely to be one in eight.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/nov/16/immigrationpolicy.politics


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The Guardian's report on cousin marriage attempted to deal with a complex health issue, involving the marriage preference of a minority ethnic group, genetic risk, lay and professional understanding of this risk, and the attempts to deal with it (British Pakistanis should stop marrying cousins, says MP, November 16).

The article was prompted by a report on the BBC Newsnight programme the same day. But both items presented this valued social practice as problematic, rather than reporting on genetic advances that will allow families to make informed choices. This reflects how Britain's dominant culture continues to deal with minority ethnic health.

Locating the cause and solution to minority health issues within the cultural practices of those communities is well-documented. This ongoing approach serves to shift responsibility from policy-makers and service providers to individuals and communities; it continues to alienate minorities and hampers the process of devising responsive health services.

The view that likens cousin marriage to lifestyle issues, as reported in the article, underestimates the complex emotional and social rationale as to how people make choices about life partners. The complexity is more akin to that involved in women making choices about if, and when, to give birth. The risk of Down's syndrome increases considerably with advancing maternal age, and a woman's decision to have children in her early 20s, based on health risk alone, requires a full analysis of how that decision would impact on her emotionally, economically and socially. In recognition of a woman's right to informed choice, the NHS offers services tailored to the needs of modern women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2005/dec/02/mainsection.leadersandreply2


The BBC report:

It is estimated that at least 55% of British Pakistanis are married to first cousins and the tradition is also common among some other South Asian communities and in some Middle Eastern countries.
...
British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with genetic disorders than the general population - they account for just over 3% of all births but have just under a third of all British children with such illnesses.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:40 PM
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11. fascinating article!
even if it was somewhat fawning.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:13 AM
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13. Murdoch is disgusting.
There is actually a genuine problem, which he's describing in a very distorted way. British people of Pakistani descent are more likely than those of other ethnic groups to marry relatives, and this does result in a higher incidence of some genetic medical disorders in their children. Contrary to popular opinion, marriages between genetically related individuals do not mean that all their children will be less intelligent or otherwise disadvantaged; but they do mean that their children are likely to have a higher risk of certain birth defects and hereditary diseases caused by recessive genes.

In any case, Murdoch is a liar, distorter, and generally evil person, and he has far more power in Britain than any one individual should have, especially someone who's never been elected to anything, and isn't even a citizen of the country.
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