Any word if they are evacuating all the NO hospitals???

[rainbow4321]

All the patients/hospitals, top to bottom?? And if so, WHAT hospitals are they moving them to?? Cuz we are not just talking about a handful of people/evacuees. Seems like at this point we should be seeing nonstop airlifts on the local hospital roofs. If they are serious about this evac plan, they need to include ALL the patients..nursing homes, included.

It's not like the very ill and hospitalized people get go hop on these buses and trains for evac.

And what about the neonatal intensive care babies?

Why do I think we are going to see a half hearted, fucked up evac
plan???


The M$M needs to get the hospital execs on the phone NOW and demand an answer (before the execs all skip town)!


On edit: And good luck to them trying to find medical volunteers to stay behind this time around!

[Mind_your_head]

1. That's a good point

I don't have cable/satellite, so I don't know what, if anything is being shown on the teevee. Looking at the 'major' news sites on the innertubes doesn't give very much more information about how the evacuations are going than they had this morning.

This should really be a BIG STORY! Now I wonder just 'how smoothly/thoroughly' the evacuations are going now....hmmmmm....

[rainbow4321]

2. Probably safe to say that if the MSM is **not asking**...

then there is no plan to evac every single patient in the areas about to be hit. They are still lapdogs to the chimp regime, after all.

If the MSM were not such wimps, they would be on the phone with every hospital CEO tonight asking "WHEN will you start the evac copters, what hospitals/cities will you be flying them to, etc.." Cuz you know damn well that the hospital administrators already have their bags packed and will be long gone and "unavailable for comment".

[kdmorris]

3. It's not a mandatory evacuation yet (unless something has changed)

They won't issue a mandatory until tomorrow, according to the mayor. I don't know, truthfully, what rules are in place when it's a voluntary evacuation. It would seem to ME that it makes sense to start evacuating hospitals and nursing homes and, yes, even prisons ( cannot forget the picture of all the prisoners after Katrina, handcuffed together and sitting on an overpass, waiting for someone to come get them while they died of heatstroke and thirst). Any place where a person truly doesn't have the choice to evacuate.

But I really don't know what they are doing in NO right now, whether they are evacuating these places. I would hope so, but...who knows?

[Mind_your_head]

6. It may not be mandatory, but it's DEFINITELY the SENSIBLE thing to do

especially in light of what happened a mere three years ago.

The OP is correct that the elderly, very very young (prematrue babies), and the infirm require a LOT more time and resources to move/evacuate. This should be a BIG STORY, but it's a non-story and now it's got me very :scared: and worried for these people.

K & R for more eyeballs to see (and perhaps some word from some of the folks who are down there or 'were' down there and have now successfully evac'd.

:kick:

[rainbow4321]

9. This doesn't look promising. Children's Hospital NOT evacuating

Soooo, it will be mandatory except for the patients' families?? Cuz who the hell is going to want to leave their family behind??


From their website:

http://www.chnola.org/content/

Effective at 7:00 p.m, on Sunday, August 31, 2008, Children’s Hospital will implement its emergency plan (Code Gray) in preparation for the arrival of Hurricane Gustav. Children’s Hospital will remain open throughout the impending storm and the Emergency Department will be fully operational around-the-clock.


The safety of our young patients, their parents/guardians, our medical staff and employees is a top priority, and we will continue to provide superior medical services to our patients. During Hurricane Katrina the hospital proved that it could withstand a significant storm with little or no damage. The hospital is well prepared with appropriate staff, emergency generators and fuel to provide electricity and air conditioning for more than three weeks, and food and water for two weeks. In addition to the hospital’s security staff, we will be housing a significant number of New Orleans police officers and firefighters.
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Tulane Hospital:

http://www.tuhc.com/CustomPage.asp?guidCustomContentID={EDF7A397-B91B-4034-96B9-E4AC7640D3EC}

As Gustav prepares to enter the Gulf of Mexico, both Tulane Medical Center hospitals will remain open. At the same time, special measures are being taken to reduce the number of patients remaining in-house - high risk patients are being transferred, and patients who are medically stable are being discharged.

Beginning Saturday, clinics are closed and surgeries are cancelled at Tulane Medical Center, both campuses. The hospitals are open for emergency visits only. The clinics are scheduled to re-open on Thursday.

Employees who are part of a team specially selected to take care of the remaining patients on site will begin staffing Sunday and will stay until the storm has passed.


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No news at all at LSU public hospital except telling diabetics how to manage their own care in a disaster:

http://www.mclno.org/mclno/menu/

[Barack_America]

12. Nagin declared a mandatory evacuation tonight. nt

[kdmorris]

15. Good!

I heard him say earlier in the afternoon that it wasn't mandatory, but would be on Sunday if Gustav maintained its course.

Thanks for the info!!

[orleans]

13. now it is:

Mandatory evacuation ordered in New Orleans
Updated Sat. Aug. 30 2008 10:13 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

New Orleans Mayor Roy Nagin has ordered the mandatory evacuation of his city, as Gustav surges toward the U.S. Gulf Coast as a dangerous Category 5 hurricane.

The order will become mandatory at 8 a.m. Sunday for neighbourhoods in the west bank.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080830/no_evacuation_080830/20080830?hub=CTVNewsAt11

[kdmorris]

16. Thanks!

That's good news.

By your user name, I would assume that you are near or in New Orleans (although I didn't know Swamp Rat was a woman, so I have a wide margin of error).

Stay safe if you are.

[orleans]

17. i'm outside of chicago, in a burb. but thanks. i'll throw your good wishes

along with my own to those who really need them now.

[Catherine Vincent]

19. uh,..what?

SwampRat is a woman? I'll be John Brown!

[XemaSab]

18. It's mandatory... 100% exacuation

Per Nagin.

[geomon666]

4. I can't speak from a New Orleans standpoint, because I don't live there....

But I've never heard of hospitals being evacuated for any reason, especially a hurricane. Hospitals usually are more of the strongest built buildings in a city and they are fairly equipped to handle emergency situations.

They may evacuate non emergency patients but a full evacuation, I highly doubt it.

[rainbow4321]

5. "Strongest built" is not the problem

I'm sure they will physically remain standing...lot of good THAT did post Katrina.
No food, water, electricity IS the problem.

[geomon666]

10. Hospitals have a backup supply of all of that.

The problem that happened with Katrina was that the government took its' sweet ass time to resupply hospitals with food and water and gas for their backup generators.

You simply cannot completely evacuate a hospital. Especially a major one because where are the injured of the storm supposed to go? What are the critical condition patients that can't be moved supposed to do? It's like evacuating the jails. Where are they supposed to go?

[knitter4democracy]

11. They should have last time, though.

Dr. Pau (I think that's how to spell her name) almost went to jail for doing the right thing to the patients they left her behind with to die.

The bottom floors flooded (including the morgue and the lab), they didn't send helicopters to evacuate the doctors and patients who still could until days and days later and flat-out made it clear that if a patient couldn't get on the helicopter or on a boat, they were going to be left to die.

It's time to get them out now.

[applegrove]

7. People with any sort of disability in NOLA are asked to call 311 to get on a list.

[MiniMe]

8. They have started evacuating the nursing homes and hospitals now

The mandatory evacuation order has been issued.

[wildflower]

14. I hope so. I'm really worried about the elderly, too...

I heard a recent report that said over half of the people who died after Katrina were 75 or over.