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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:23 PM
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8/29 ELECTION MODEL (TIA): OBAMA EV: 282,301,331,342 (ONE IS CORRECT) - x
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 09:58 PM by tiptoe
8/29 ELECTION MODEL (TIA): OBAMA EV: 282,301,331,342 (ONE IS CORRECT) - x


2008 ELECTION MODEL
A  Monte Carlo  Electoral  Vote  Simulation



Updated: August 29

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  • Chart   State Poll Aggregate + Projection Trend
  • Chart   National 5-Poll Moving Average Projection
  • Chart   State vs. National: Vote Share Projection Trends
  • Chart   Battleground-State Polls
  • Chart   Battleground-State Win Probability
  • Chart   Obama Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Win Probability Trend
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Projected Vote Share Trend
  • Chart   Undecided Voter Allocation + Win Probability
  • Chart   Monte Carlo Electoral Vote Simulation Trials
     2008 Election Model Fraud Analyzer 
  • Uncounted  &  Switched Votes
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Vote Share
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Electoral Vote
  •  
     
    This
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
    5-Poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    8/29/2008
    Aggregate
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    ELECTORAL VOTE

    Obama
    McCain
     45.89 (51.02) 
     44.06 (48.98) 
     47.40 (52.09) 
     43.60 (47.91) 
    51.92
    48.08
    52.80
    47.20
    331
    207


        

    15-Poll

    End

    Sample

    Poll
    NATIONAL MODEL
     
    Pre   Undecided-Voter Allocation 
    5-Poll Mov Avg             2-Party          
     
    2-Party Projection  (60% UVA)
    5-Poll Mov Avg

    Trend
                                
    Rasmussen
    Gallup
    CNN
    Hotline/FD
    USA/Gallup

    ABC/WP
    FOX
    CBS/NYT
    NBC/WSJ
    Bloomberg

    Quinnipiac
    Reuters/Zogby
    Gallup
    Pew
    IBD/TIPP
    Date
                
    8/28
    8/28
    8/24
    8/24
    8/23

    8/22
    8/20
    8/19
    8/18
    8/18

    8/17
    8/16
    8/10
    8/10
    8/10
    Size
                
    3000LV
    2727RV
    909RV
    800RV
    765LV

    1000RV
    900RV
    869RV
    1005RV
    1248RV

    1547LV
    1089LV
    903RV
    2414RV
    925RV
    MoE
                
    1.79%
    1.88%
    3.25%
    3.46%
    3.54%

    3.10%
    3.27%
    3.32%
    3.09%
    2.77%

    2.49%
    2.97%
    3.26%
    1.99%
    3.22%

    LV avg
    RV avg
    Total
    Obama
                
    49
    49
    47
    44
    48

    49
    42
    45
    45
    45

    47
    41
    45
    46
    43

    46.25
    45.40
    45.67
    McCain
                
    45
    41
    47
    40
    45

    43
    39
    42
    42
    43

    42
    46
    38
    43
    38

    44.50
    40.80
    42.27
    Spread
                
    4
    8
    0
    4
    3

    6
    3
    3
    3
    2

    5
    (5)
    7
    3
    5

    1.75
    4.60
    3.40
     
    Obama
                
    47.4
    47.4
    46.0
    45.6
    45.8

    45.2
    44.8
    44.6
    44.6
    44.8

    44.4
    44.0
    45.0
    45.6
    46.6
    McCain
                
    43.6
    43.2
    42.8
    41.8
    42.2

    41.8
    41.6
    43.0
    42.2
    42.4

    41.4
    40.8
    39.8
    40.6
    40.8
    |
    Obama
                
    52.1
    52.3
    51.8
    52.2
    52.0

    52.0
    51.9
    50.9
    51.4
    51.4

    51.7
    51.9
    53.1
    52.9
    53.3
    Win Prob
                   
    98.9
    99.2
    86.1
    89.1
    87.1

    89.2
    86.7
    70.5
    81.0
    83.5

    91.5
    89.3
    96.7
    99.8
    97.8
     
    Obama
                
    52.80
    53.04
    52.72
    53.16
    53.00

    53.00
    52.96
    52.04
    52.52
    52.48

    52.92
    53.12
    54.12
    53.88
    54.16
    McCain
                
    47.20
    46.96
    47.28
    46.84
    47.00

    47.00
    47.04
    47.96
    47.48
    47.52

    47.08
    46.88
    45.88
    46.12
    45.84
    Diff
             
    5.6
    6.1
    5.4
    6.3
    6.0

    6.0
    5.9
    4.1
    5.0
    5.0

    5.8
    6.2
    8.2
    7.8
    8.3
    Win Prob
                   
    99.9
    99.9
    95.0
    96.3
    95.1

    97.1
    96.2
    88.5
    94.5
    96.0

    98.9
    98.0
    99.3
    100.0
    99.4

     

    Obama is getting an expected convention bounce in the national polls.

    What is his projected Electoral Vote, assuming the election is held today?

    Is it 282, based on the latest unadjusted state polls?
    Is it 301, based on the projected state vote win probabilities using the latest polls (assuming a 50/50 split of undecided voters)?
    Is it 331, based on the projected state vote win probabilities (assuming 60% of undecided voters (UVA) break to Obama)?
    Is it 341, based on the projected state 2-party vote using the latest polls (assuming 60% UVA for Obama)?

    ...

    Obama leads the aggregate State projection model by 51.948.1% and the National model by 52.847.2%. He has a bigger lead than the near “dead heat” claimed by pollsters, bloggers and the media. That’s because they want a close race and don’t adjust polls for undecided and newly registered voters.

    • Of the latest 15 national polls, 11 are Registered Voter (RV) and 4 are LV. The RVs include newly registered young Democrats who are not included in the LV polls. Perhaps that’s why Obama leads by 4.6% in the RV polls but only 1.75% in the LVs. In 2004, Kerry did better in RVs than in LVs.

    • The Election Model's base case scenario assumption is that Obama will capture 60% of the undecided vote. He’s considered to be the challenger, since McCain is running for Bush’s third term. Typically, challengers win 75–90% of the undecided vote. In 2004, final state and national Pre-Election Polls had the race nearly tied at 47, but Kerry had at least 70% of the undecided vote (Gallup allocated 88% to him).

    But there’s another factor to consider — Election Fraud. ...


    full update: 8/29 ELECTION MODEL (TIA): OBAMA EV: 282,301,331,342 (ONE IS CORRECT) - x





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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:50 PM
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    1. kicking for Obama/Biden! nt
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    W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:53 PM
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    2. Interesting stuff.
    I certainly hope things turn out this way :)
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:26 AM
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    3. yep. and better than relying on one pollster. nt
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:31 PM
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    4. NOT ONE ELECTION WEBSITE, POLLSTER OR MEDIA PUNDIT EVER MENTIONS THE FRAUD FACTOR.
    The Election Model accounts for the distinct probability that the election will be fraudulent and adjusts the vote shares accordingly. This analysis will be provided right up to the election. To show the effects of fraud, the summary table displays Obama’s electoral and popular vote assuming 3% of total votes cast are uncounted (Obama has 75%) and 4% of Obama’s votes are switched to McCain. After adjusting for these factors, Obama has 251 electoral votes and a 49.1% vote share. Of course, for higher switched vote and uncounted vote rates, he would lose by larger margins. Two graphs display the effects of a combination range of uncounted and switch vote scenarios on the EV and popular vote (see the links below).
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:19 PM
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    5. Compare polls of RV (registered voters) vs LV (likely voters), esp Gallup nt
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