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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:27 PM
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Why do military people all seem to mispronounce "Eye-rack"?
It seems like people who've been there would pronounce it correctly, but I'm listening to yet another military guy on KO, and he pronounces it Eye-rack, too. What's with that?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:28 PM
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1. Most of those guys seem to be southerners. Is it because of their accent?
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:26 AM
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25. There's a generic military accent
my career Navy brother in law talks like that and he's from Massachusetts.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:39 AM
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27. Theres a G..
in sergeant as well but I've never heard it.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:29 PM
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2. Because A-rock sounds too violent
It's all part of our light-touch approach to military occupation.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:31 PM
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3. Many mis prounounce it, and since there are more "Obama people"
than there are Hillary's - certainly on the media, I would say that Obama people mis pronounce it. Now, doesn't it sound silly?

Why not go outside, shout to the world that you hate Hillary, throw in Bill for good measure and find something else to worry about?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:35 PM
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5. Not worrying about it. Just find it curious. You seem to be the one
with the blood pressure problem.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:48 PM
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14. WTF?
n/t
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:58 PM
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16. WTF?
The primaries are over--can we at least make sense now?

Thanks! :loveya:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:11 PM
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39. Indeed they are. Why not direct them at the OP? (nt)
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:31 AM
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38. damn
jaded are we :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

or do we just need to get some fresh air?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:53 AM
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60. wrong post
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 11:55 AM by fascisthunter
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:51 AM
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59. what interesting relativism
and very divisive
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:32 PM
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4. Could it be a subconscious
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 09:33 PM by delete_bush
way to dehumanize the people of Iraq. ???

Makes the real person seem more like a video game. Easier to kill that way.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:37 PM
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8. I think that this is how it strikes me when I hear it.
It seems disrepectful, at best.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:49 PM
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15. Good point. Convey's just the right touch of disdain.
It can't be worth frettin' about much if it's got a funny-sounding name.
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2KS2KHonda Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:28 PM
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22. Who is Convey?
And why are we worried about who he disdains?
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 05:50 AM
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34. ?
convey: >>>Definition 1. to carry from one place or person to another.
Synonyms transport (1) , transfer (1) , carry (3)>>>>
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2KS2KHonda Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:27 AM
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37. Never mind, I was just noticing you apparently own stock in an apostrophe
making company.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:38 PM
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43. Ooopps. Good point . I do that. Gotta stop. Thanks. nt
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:36 PM
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6. it's in the culture of the group. like we here say moran or series...
on du.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:36 PM
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7. Dumbnitude .....
.... and it isn't only military people.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:37 PM
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9. The first letter in Arabic is Ayn, no perfect English equivalent
so it is expected that they will mis-pronounce it. I have been working on Arabic for about 4 years and I still can't come close to pronouncing Ayn consistently correct like a native speaker. Can get close now though.

On wikipedia's page they have an .ogg audio file of correct pronunciation:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Ar-a...
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:41 PM
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10. Very interesting. Thank you. nt
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:43 PM
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11. Determined, deliberate ignorance. A form of arrogance.
Somewhat akin to the British pronunciation of "Kenya" as "Keenya", for instance. A not too subtle way of insulting "the natives".
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:46 PM
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13. Or my favorite, Moss Kow.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 05:17 AM
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33. An acceptable Anglicization. Romanization would be "Moskva."
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 05:17 AM by Progs Rock
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:04 AM
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36. It just sounds funny. I put less emphasis on the "w"
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:23 PM
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41. It's fine either way, especially since neither of those phonemes are used in Russian.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 06:24 PM by Progs Rock
;-)

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:10 PM
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47. My family lived in Russia and several other countries, depending on who
had the best army at the time. They didn't move, the borders moved.

I've traced some to Sawadden East Prussia. It's in the south east near Lyck. My Polish friend says I'm a Pollack and I might as well get used to it.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:05 AM
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48.  Nothin' wrong in that. Ethnically you are Baltic, and, possibly,
Edited on Sat Aug-23-08 02:06 AM by Progs Rock
some West Slavic (if it's accurate that you are part Pole -- though it would be more likely if your Baltic came via Lithuanian ancestry). Every Pole or Slavic person I've ever met -- and every Baltic person, for that matter -- have been vastly bright, so don't worry about that stereotype.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:04 AM
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50. We have a lot of very creative people in my family. One was a well
Edited on Sat Aug-23-08 10:05 AM by alfredo
respected Ragtime composer.
This song is a favorite at Ragtime competitions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-04BztOySLc

http://perfessorbill.com/comps/amarzian.shtml

There's still debate over the identity of Mark Janza. I think he was invented to pad the client list of his publishing company,or to hide the fact from polite society that he wrote Ragtime.

The picture is my grandfather.

Both studied music in Russia.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:47 AM
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52. That was an interesting story. Sounds plausible to me.
Do you play music?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:05 AM
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56. I dabble, but my wife is the musician.
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2KS2KHonda Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:27 PM
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21. Obviously there's a problem because I've always said "keen-ya"
and never ever had any intention of insulting natives or anybody else. And I'm not British. sheesh.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:42 PM
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44. I would be curious to hear you
pronounce the names of any number of foreign nation's capitals. One doubts you would handle them all well; do you secretly have contempt for them?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:44 PM
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12. It's pretty sad that we are in a war where billions are spent and people are dying
and we cannot reach a consensus as to how the name of the country should be pronounced. I've wondered this same thing myself. To me, "Eye-rack" sounds ignorant just as when I hear somebody say "Eye-talians". This should not be so difficult.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:00 PM
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17. It's a "frame"..like "democRAT-senator"
Wonder how we would like it if the rest of the world called us "Ooh-nited Stats of Aay-merica"
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:13 PM
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18. yeah, some people speak w. an accent, imagine that! EOM
,
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:17 PM
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19. NUKULER
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:20 PM
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20. I'll tell you why...
its' because anyone with two brain cells to rub together
has already been kicked out by this administration
and the only people left are those who think it's 'EYE-RACK'
I open all of my university classes
with the correct pronunciation of "Iraq"
because I don't want my students to sound like idiots....
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:37 PM
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23. And every time I hear it it makes me
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 10:40 PM by beac
"Eye-Roll"

:eyes:


I think it's a way to subtly disrespect the country and appear like "regular Joes" and the same time: "We aren't elistists who bother to use the fancy book-learning way of saying things. If you say the name right, the terraists win." *sigh*
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:50 PM
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24. Bingo! n/t
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:25 AM
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26. Same reason Poppy Bush
always annoyingly mispronounced Saddam to rhyme with Adam.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:30 AM
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28. Sometimes it may be intentional disrespect, and sometimes it's
due to phonological rules of English graphemes and spelling patterns ( English does not have a phonemic orthography).

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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:01 AM
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29. Wait, so what's the correct pronunciation? (Excuse me for my ignorance)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:35 AM
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31. (h)e-ROK.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 04:36 AM by HughBeaumont
EYE-rack is a combo of relocated Crawford Caligula dialect and Faux News viewer pidgin. :)
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:36 AM
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32. Good to know, I had been alternating between E-rock and Eye-rack so now I know. :)
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:13 AM
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30. Why do we still mispronounce countries south of our border? n/t
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 01:33 AM
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53. Good question. As annoying as eye-rack sounds...
it's kind of hard to complain unless you say "meheeko", "lohs anhelees", "pahreee", etc.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:40 AM
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35. Here in Britain, nearly everyone says I - rark
With the I short, as in "it" or "fish", and the raq rhyming with the thing Noah had.

I don't know if that's correct, though.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:14 PM
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40. This is the correct way
like Israel or Italy, not Ireland or Iceland.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:24 AM
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58. That added "r" - is interesting
My mom, (Irish parents, from no. NJ) adds it to the end of many words ending with a vowel. (Like pahster - that stuff you have with tomato sauce?). But I've also noticed it being fairly common in the Boston area.

I suppose it's a gift from Irish/English parents?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:27 PM
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42. Because if it's good enough for Eye-talyuns...
...it's good enough for Eye-rak.

:evilgrin:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:43 PM
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45. Vee' et' nam (like ham .. emphasis on first two syllables)
Remember that?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:45 PM
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46. Because this is dumbfuckistan and we can't grasp simple concepts like pronunciation?
Or could it be that we relish pissing people off by being purposely, even aggressively, ignorant? After all, you can never have too many people that hate you...




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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:19 AM
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49. they also mispronounced "Viet Nam" pretty routinely
and "Nazi"

nowadays, none of them can say "scam" or "lies" or "illegal occupation" or "war crimes" or "it's all about the oil and dick cheney's portfolio" at all.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:09 AM
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51. So how's it *supposed* to be pronounced?
Ear-rock? Eee-rack?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 02:28 AM
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54. Either one. "Eye-rack" is one holler away from someone who says "Eye-talian".
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 03:52 AM
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55. Do they "seem" to, or do they all actually do so? And you've
actually heard them all?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:14 AM
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57. It always feels like a stubborn-minded signal of
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 10:21 AM by JerseygirlCT
being a "merkin" to them. As if that's how real merkins say it. Can't be sounding like some eye-rackee now.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:55 AM
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61. Same with the Pronounciation of Iran...
instead of pronouncing it ee-rahn, folks say eye-ran. It's common with most people in the states, because the people in the media say it that way.
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