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olympic medals - does anyone else finding it embarassing to take so many

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olympic medals - does anyone else finding it embarassing to take so many
we walk in with a 'crowd' and then seem surprised to get so many - it would be nice if some of the other 240 counties that are smaller got some - it always seems like a gang shows up when we walk in and then so many have to say USA USA - I mean - I just find it like the 'gang' is here and we are taking over - what are your thoughts? I know republics like the gangs and bullies to take over everything so they like being king of the mountain all the time - I just feel like others should get a turn more often
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   I know I got sick of winning all of mine that's for sure.  Wetzelbill   Aug-09-08 04:57 PM   #1 
   lol  28erl   Aug-09-08 04:58 PM   #2 
   funny thing, I once had aspirations to compete  Wetzelbill   Aug-09-08 05:40 PM   #17 
   And they are heavy if you wear them all at once  treestar   Aug-11-08 12:04 PM   #160 
   no. i like winning. and i like winning in olypmics. sorry. n/t  seabeyond   Aug-09-08 04:58 PM   #3 
   No  DU9598   Aug-09-08 04:58 PM   #4 
   Actually China is supposed to be pretty good this year  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 06:59 PM   #31 
   So the American athletes should run slower...  A HERETIC I AM   Aug-09-08 04:58 PM   #5 
   I agree...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 04:59 PM   #6 
   Bah we should celebrate one of the few things we're still good at  Indenturedebtor   Aug-09-08 05:04 PM   #8 
   Yes, the Olympics should be a celebration...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 05:13 PM   #12 
      What professionals do we send besides Basketball  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 07:08 PM   #33 
      What part of "collegiate athletes" do you not understand, Sidney?  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 07:34 PM   #41 
      But everybody sends pros.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 07:36 PM   #45 
      I think we have a sufficiently large pool of good talent...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 07:42 PM   #50 
         Think this over Jefferson  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 07:56 PM   #60 
         In the sports where they can send pros  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:04 PM   #62 
         For the same reason ...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 08:27 PM   #69 
            It doesn't bother me.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:52 PM   #75 
            Doesn't bother me at all.  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 09:07 PM   #78 
            So all those Kenyans that win all the marathons and are  Fla Dem   Aug-10-08 04:01 PM   #124 
            lets show them what american sports are all about  sentelle   Aug-11-08 11:33 AM   #156 
            305-310 million  snooper2   Aug-11-08 12:19 PM   #163 
         So we just send collegiate amateurs, but everyone else can send pros, right?  dbaker41   Aug-11-08 02:44 PM   #177 
      Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-09-08 07:47 PM   #53 
      What other sports?  JustABozoOnThisBus   Aug-09-08 08:30 PM   #71 
         Beach Volleyball?  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 10:51 PM   #100 
         Yeah, beside the U.S. women's beach volleyball players are...  RNdaSilva   Aug-10-08 12:47 AM   #115 
         That's just it ... the Games only PRETENDED to be amateur.  dbaker41   Aug-11-08 02:47 PM   #178 
            I prefer that people can honestly earn money and compete...  MillieJo   Aug-11-08 03:32 PM   #181 
      Other countries send professionals.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 07:17 PM   #36 
   I guess that is the part I feel - it isn't just a competition of athletes but the attitude  28erl   Aug-09-08 05:06 PM   #9 
   What if I only graduated high school but ran a 9.0 100 meters? n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-09-08 06:43 PM   #27 
   I think someone who runs 100 meters in 9.0 flat...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 08:15 PM   #66 
      So now you want exceptions?  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:18 PM   #67 
         I didn't say I wanted exceptions.  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 08:29 PM   #70 
            You most certainly did.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:51 PM   #74 
               And you're using this quote to support your claim that I said...  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 09:06 PM   #76 
                  Yes.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 09:21 PM   #82 
                     So you're not serious -- that's what I thought.  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 09:42 PM   #83 
                        Now hold on a sec.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 09:46 PM   #85 
                           Hey, you said you weren't serious.  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 09:48 PM   #86 
                              Ah, I see we've descended to non-sequiters now.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 09:53 PM   #89 
                              You said you weren't serious -- you just want to joke around. That's fine.  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 09:54 PM   #91 
                                 When did I say I wasn't serious?  Codeine   Aug-09-08 09:55 PM   #92 
                                    When did I say you said I said you weren't serious?  Mr_Jefferson_24   Aug-09-08 09:57 PM   #94 
                              Actually you said he wasn't serious.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Aug-11-08 05:06 PM   #191 
   Yes, and we are one of the most unfit and obese countries in the world.  Bonobo   Aug-10-08 04:04 PM   #126 
   What you me "we", kemosabe?  deaniac21   Aug-11-08 02:26 PM   #176 
   You should root in things like fencing  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-10-08 04:14 PM   #128 
   We now send a bunch of NBA stars to compete in  LibDemAlways   Aug-11-08 12:43 PM   #169 
   Latvia just kicked the US's ass in Men's Beach Volleyball. n/t  renie408   Aug-09-08 05:01 PM   #7 
   I wouldn't call it an ass kicking  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 07:12 PM   #34 
   No, be the best athlete you can be for goodness sake.  Fuzz   Aug-09-08 05:08 PM   #10 
   I don't care who wins. I just want a good show nt  conspirator   Aug-09-08 05:09 PM   #11 
   As Stephen Colbert said...  lame54   Aug-09-08 05:21 PM   #13 
   haha I love Colbert.  JNelson6563   Aug-09-08 07:31 PM   #40 
   An olympic gold medal contains 6 grams of gold  Art_from_Ark   Aug-15-08 03:53 AM   #200 
   In 1980 we won zero  sniffa   Aug-09-08 05:21 PM   #14 
   that was really too bad for the athletes - used politics in the wrong way  28erl   Aug-09-08 05:46 PM   #18 
   Jimmy Carter made them wear sweaters to save energy and they were slowed down by it!  JVS   Aug-09-08 06:22 PM   #23 
   the boycott was tough on the athletes who were aged especiatlly  28erl   Aug-09-08 07:55 PM   #59 
   yes we did...I along with 1000's of competitors were dropped in the grease  ZenKitty   Aug-09-08 11:12 PM   #107 
   I Know What You Mean,  ribofunk   Aug-09-08 05:24 PM   #15 
   I don't know why any American whould be surprised - it's a big sports-obsessed country  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-09-08 05:27 PM   #16 
   I am not embarassed when our athletes do well.  aikoaiko   Aug-09-08 05:53 PM   #19 
   That is literally  Codeine   Aug-09-08 05:57 PM   #20 
   LOL!  JVS   Aug-09-08 06:22 PM   #24 
   China has a national strategy to compete in sports wherea a lot  Sulawesi   Aug-09-08 06:20 PM   #21 
   China finds somebody who's good at Ping Pong at 10  snooper2   Aug-11-08 12:24 PM   #164 
   i'm certainly sick of the america america  pansypoo53219   Aug-09-08 06:21 PM   #22 
   that is so true - we get very little information about all the others  28erl   Aug-09-08 07:41 PM   #49 
      Hmmm. You must've missed the piece about the German gymnast  dbaker41   Aug-11-08 02:55 PM   #179 
         She's from Uzebeckistan  MillieJo   Aug-11-08 03:39 PM   #183 
   No - this isn't pre-school games where the little fat kids get ribbons too  Baclava   Aug-09-08 06:31 PM   #25 
   Thank you  snooper2   Aug-11-08 12:25 PM   #165 
   Yeah, but Norway isn't the US, so that's OK  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Aug-11-08 02:05 PM   #175 
   No  tammywammy   Aug-09-08 06:32 PM   #26 
   The New York Times  Wilber_Stool   Aug-09-08 06:46 PM   #28 
   thanks for that link - that is nice to be able to see each year and who  28erl   Aug-09-08 07:49 PM   #55 
   Good idea...we should give half of all the medals back that's won...  cynatnite   Aug-09-08 06:50 PM   #29 
   we're one of the more populous countries  Retrograde   Aug-09-08 06:57 PM   #30 
   Nope ..not in any way  proud patriotLead Moderator   Aug-09-08 07:00 PM   #32 
   Well said  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 07:29 PM   #39 
   Thanks for the link  proud patriotLead Moderator   Aug-09-08 07:35 PM   #44 
      You're quite welcome  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 08:01 PM   #61 
   Why the fuck should I be embarrassed?  alphafemale   Aug-10-08 08:25 PM   #134 
   Every country should get the SAME number of medals.  antfarm   Aug-09-08 07:13 PM   #35 
   Cup cakes? I want in.  chimpsrsmarter   Aug-09-08 07:34 PM   #42 
   i like that idea  28erl   Aug-09-08 07:43 PM   #51 
      Good lord I do believe you're serious.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:05 PM   #63 
   The haul of medals don't bother me so much...  Wednesdays   Aug-09-08 07:26 PM   #37 
   That's universal, however.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 07:35 PM   #43 
   You mean some sort of "medal redistribution" plan so that  usnret88   Aug-09-08 07:28 PM   #38 
   Yes. What the fuck kind of living Rush strawman feels guilty about Americans winning gold medals?  Occam Bandage   Aug-11-08 10:54 AM   #153 
   No. How did you feel about the 1976 East German Olympic Swim team?  chimpsrsmarter   Aug-09-08 07:38 PM   #46 
   How many did they win?  bicentennial_baby   Aug-09-08 07:40 PM   #47 
      hmmmmm. Ok here's the link  chimpsrsmarter   Aug-09-08 07:44 PM   #52 
         Some of the East German female athletes were literally turned into males  LostinVA   Aug-10-08 07:58 PM   #132 
   Nope, I like it That we Win  NeedleCast   Aug-09-08 07:40 PM   #48 
   which of our athletes would you like to see lose...?  QuestionAll   Aug-09-08 07:48 PM   #54 
   you miss my point - that is ok - some people don't look at lots of views  28erl   Aug-09-08 07:52 PM   #57 
      We don't "trounce" them.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:07 PM   #64 
      you must not view much in the way of olympic results, either.  QuestionAll   Aug-09-08 11:01 PM   #103 
   As an AMATEUR figure skater....  danagsk8   Aug-09-08 07:50 PM   #56 
   I was thinking it takes more courage to show up time and time again  28erl   Aug-09-08 07:53 PM   #58 
   It sure does.  Codeine   Aug-09-08 08:07 PM   #65 
   Maybe you shouldn't suck so much  Sidney J Mussburger   Aug-09-08 11:01 PM   #102 
   it's not just the United States, it's true of many other nations also  JI7   Aug-09-08 08:21 PM   #68 
   It's relative to populaiton - that's just the facts  HEyHEY   Aug-09-08 08:34 PM   #72 
   Tell that to India, Malaysia, etc. n/t  India3   Aug-09-08 09:55 PM   #93 
   Not our fault they suck!  HEyHEY   Aug-09-08 10:06 PM   #96 
   India doesn't invest in sports for the country , they could if they wanted to  JI7   Aug-10-08 12:21 AM   #112 
      They have great Cricket teams though.....  MillieJo   Aug-11-08 03:50 PM   #185 
   good to see you and your bears around again lately n/t  28erl   Aug-09-08 10:31 PM   #99 
   Australia has a small population and look at their team...  MillieJo   Aug-11-08 03:56 PM   #186 
   medal schmedal... country schmountry  World Citizen   Aug-09-08 08:37 PM   #73 
   call the wahhhhbulance....  crimsonblue   Aug-09-08 09:07 PM   #77 
   Another thing...  crimsonblue   Aug-09-08 09:09 PM   #79 
   A lottery for contestants? Hell, let's get rid of the contest and  NYC Liberal   Aug-09-08 09:17 PM   #80 
      But what would we call it?  crimsonblue   Aug-09-08 09:18 PM   #81 
         Well...I like your "Kumbayalympics"!  NYC Liberal   Aug-09-08 11:32 PM   #109 
   Not at all  Mike Daniels   Aug-09-08 09:45 PM   #84 
   The United States has 636 Athletes at the Olympics and the little island of Cuba has...  MiltonF   Aug-09-08 09:49 PM   #87 
   No. You must CRUSH your opponent. No mercy.  Canuckistanian   Aug-09-08 09:50 PM   #88 
   I'm assuming Canada  Codeine   Aug-09-08 09:53 PM   #90 
   Might as well  Canuckistanian   Aug-09-08 10:05 PM   #95 
      We're Number 1. . . 6! nt  Codeine   Aug-09-08 10:08 PM   #97 
      I have a friend through work who has a won a bronze in Hockey for Canada  Marrah_G   Aug-10-08 07:11 PM   #130 
   roflmao n/t  28erl   Aug-09-08 10:24 PM   #98 
   You don't go to the Olympics to give other teams a sporting chance  Mike Daniels   Aug-09-08 11:02 PM   #104 
   Damn straight, amigo  Canuckistanian   Aug-09-08 11:07 PM   #105 
   Yeah, because every other team ramps down their competitive spirit at the Olympics  Mike Daniels   Aug-11-08 01:02 PM   #170 
   Hey, a South Korean just won the men's 400 freestyle  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-09-08 10:52 PM   #101 
   Are you nuts?  ZenKitty   Aug-09-08 11:09 PM   #106 
   Ok:  NYC Liberal   Aug-09-08 11:35 PM   #110 
      This is not "Fun Fair Positive Olympics"  ZenKitty   Aug-11-08 12:14 AM   #144 
   If there was ever a post that validates the RW stereotype of liberals, this is it  Dreamer Tatum   Aug-09-08 11:17 PM   #108 
   yes I am a liberal and no I am not insulting other countries by  28erl   Aug-10-08 12:58 AM   #117 
   Is there any representation of this country which doesn't  pipoman   Aug-10-08 12:15 AM   #111 
   a few of the posters here have embarassed themselves n/t  28erl   Aug-10-08 12:48 AM   #116 
      It's sport, it's not a singalong.  Indenturedebtor   Aug-10-08 03:31 PM   #120 
      Amen n/t  Fountain79   Aug-10-08 03:39 PM   #121 
      Speaking of yourself?  Mike Daniels   Aug-10-08 09:12 PM   #136 
         They are to a degree supposed to be a singalong  treestar   Aug-11-08 12:39 PM   #168 
   The medal haul should be between the U.S. and China...  RNdaSilva   Aug-10-08 12:34 AM   #113 
   Don't be surprised if the USA is not king of the mountain this time.....  marmar   Aug-10-08 12:38 AM   #114 
   No. This is competition, fuck em.  MrSlayer   Aug-10-08 01:04 AM   #118 
   By your logic.....  Fountain79   Aug-10-08 03:20 PM   #119 
   I have gotten a laugh out of the silly comments here - thanks for your part n/t  28erl   Aug-10-08 03:54 PM   #123 
      Well....start a stupid thread....and you get...  Fountain79   Aug-10-08 04:02 PM   #125 
      Just admit  Codeine   Aug-10-08 10:20 PM   #143 
         I agree with this post. n/t  distantearlywarning   Aug-11-08 12:17 PM   #162 
   If American athletes are the best, they deserve to win medals.  gmudem   Aug-10-08 03:47 PM   #122 
   I'm sorry, this is the stupidest thing I've read all day nt  MellowDem   Aug-10-08 04:11 PM   #127 
   I know what you mean.  sammythecat   Aug-10-08 06:42 PM   #129 
   perhaps we should add a "living beyond national life expectancy" event. nt  delaware97   Aug-10-08 08:52 PM   #135 
   This is the dumbest post I've read in 2008  EvolveOrConvolve   Aug-10-08 07:52 PM   #131 
   I'm not 100% sure  Mr. Blonde   Aug-10-08 09:37 PM   #139 
   LMAO. They don't "take" medals. They win competitions.  hiaasenrocks   Aug-10-08 08:00 PM   #133 
   I disagree  llort51ra   Aug-10-08 09:21 PM   #137 
   Playing by the rules, unlike other countries....  ZenKitty   Aug-11-08 12:16 AM   #145 
   The more the merrier.  RNdaSilva   Aug-10-08 09:31 PM   #138 
   Its a sporting competition and we have alot of athletes  Jake3463   Aug-10-08 09:50 PM   #140 
   It's a competition. The winner gets the medal and there is honor in playing fairly even if you don't  kwenu   Aug-10-08 09:52 PM   #141 
   I think the idea that in an international competition you don't want the best to win is embarassing  onenote   Aug-10-08 10:18 PM   #142 
   Not to mention patronizing. "Oh, it's okay, lesser peoples of the Earth.  Occam Bandage   Aug-11-08 10:56 AM   #154 
   Please, I just suffered Bush's "interview" during the women's gymnastics  silverojo   Aug-11-08 02:36 AM   #146 
   It's no fun winning if your getting a handicap.  Evoman   Aug-11-08 03:15 AM   #147 
   Ask the Norweigians. They own the winter games in overall medal count. n/t  ourbluenation   Aug-11-08 03:32 AM   #148 
   Yeah  brettdale   Aug-11-08 03:34 AM   #149 
   It seems reasonable that a large, affluent country could produce winning athletes in some sports  slackmaster   Aug-11-08 10:50 AM   #150 
   No. Countries don't win them; athletes do. This isn't an ego-boost carnival,  Occam Bandage   Aug-11-08 10:51 AM   #151 
   To the victor go the spoils.  madeline_con   Aug-11-08 10:54 AM   #152 
   The OP says more about your self-esteem  supernova   Aug-11-08 10:58 AM   #155 
   I Love When We Win Them. You're Embarrassed? Too Bad.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Aug-11-08 11:50 AM   #157 
   The Olympics are inherently unfair that way  treestar   Aug-11-08 11:52 AM   #158 
   right. its just a matter of population. Which is why U of Minnesota kicks Duke's ass in BBall  onenote   Aug-11-08 05:00 PM   #190 
      I noticed that too in the last Olympics, that many of the athletes  treestar   Aug-12-08 08:22 AM   #193 
         Years ago, I felt rather offended when a friend called them the "White Olympics"  entanglement   Aug-15-08 03:43 AM   #199 
   When the games are over, add all the medals won by Russia and the other 14  LeftinOH   Aug-11-08 11:56 AM   #159 
   Um, no.  distantearlywarning   Aug-11-08 12:15 PM   #161 
   Not in the slightest.  jakefrep   Aug-11-08 12:28 PM   #166 
   I don't find it embarrassing for any athlete to take an Olympic medal. I have several friends who  jody   Aug-11-08 12:32 PM   #167 
   You are discounting what competing in the Olympics means; it's a TREMENDOUS honor even for those  blondeatlast   Aug-11-08 01:04 PM   #171 
   You and I have similar memories. It was still better to have tried and lost than never to have tried  jody   Aug-11-08 01:21 PM   #172 
   No one takes medals. The athletes earn them  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-11-08 01:27 PM   #173 
   I agree, give all the medals to Andorra  Throd   Aug-11-08 01:57 PM   #174 
   How about the French relay swimmers who trash-talked our guys?  dbaker41   Aug-11-08 03:01 PM   #180 
   It should also be embarrassing for the students who earn all A's.  usnret88   Aug-11-08 03:33 PM   #182 
   Then you too must be pleased for Rebecca Adlington  MillieJo   Aug-11-08 03:42 PM   #184 
   Kudos to Rebecca and Joanne (nm)  Xenocrates   Aug-11-08 04:09 PM   #188 
   That was cool ... She was so excited. And Jackson got bronze.  Oregonian   Aug-11-08 07:36 PM   #192 
   NBCs coverage is embarrasing...  Xenocrates   Aug-11-08 04:06 PM   #187 
   NBC bought the schedule for US primetime so  MillieJo   Aug-12-08 11:08 AM   #196 
   they are? I haven't watched in a long time  Neo   Aug-11-08 04:20 PM   #189 
   Why be embarrassed by America?  DangerDave921   Aug-12-08 08:29 AM   #194 
   Nope not a bit..We are a populous country  peacetrain   Aug-12-08 08:33 AM   #195 
   When told this thread existed  muryan   Aug-15-08 12:11 AM   #197 
   I really admire athletes from impoverished nations; that they even make it to the Olympics  entanglement   Aug-15-08 03:35 AM   #198 
   They should had a fourth medal category and limit each country to two  grantcart   Aug-15-08 03:55 AM   #201 
 
Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 04:57 PM
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1. I know I got sick of winning all of mine that's for sure.
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2. lol
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17. funny thing, I once had aspirations to compete
They eliminated my wrestling weight class so I had no choice but to retire. :) I almost went to a school in Australia too. Could've been a dual citizen, lol. I would have made their Olympic team.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Aug-11-08 12:04 PM
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160. And they are heavy if you wear them all at once
Like Mark Spitz, if you're old enough to remember him!

:hi:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Aug-09-08 04:58 PM
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3. no. i like winning. and i like winning in olypmics. sorry. n/t
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DU9598 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 04:58 PM
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4. No
I don't find it to be like a gang showing up and just taking medals. They must still be won through a lot of hard work and dedication by the athletes. We are a populus nation and it is not surprising. If the total population was the sole factor then China and India would dominate the medal rounds. That obviously does not occur.
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:59 PM
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31. Actually China is supposed to be pretty good this year
I never really follow the Olympics that closely so I don't know how good China's been in the recent past, but I do know that they are the favorite to win the most medals this year. I guess i could just use wikipedia to check the history but, ehhh, just don't feel like it. Americans like me would dominate the metal round for laziness if that were a category. Fingers crossed for that event in 2016 Chicago!
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 04:58 PM
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5. So the American athletes should run slower...
swim slower, not jump as high or far, row slower, etc. out of a sense of giving others a "turn more often"?
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 04:59 PM
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6. I agree...
...and this is why I always supported the idea of sending ONLY collegiate competitors from the U.S. to participate. We try to turn it into a celebration of U.S. dominance in the world and we are rightly resented for it. I find it hard to root for the U.S. in any olympic competition.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:04 PM
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8. Bah we should celebrate one of the few things we're still good at
The US produces some truly exceptional atheletes. There is no shame in that. And Sport is competition. May the best win.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:13 PM
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12. Yes, the Olympics should be a celebration...
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 05:14 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...a celebration of good clean spirited international competition and camaraderie. Not an effort on the part of the U.S. to take advantage of its relative size and dominance in so many sports to carry off a gargantuan medal haul every four years. This could be achieved by sending collegiate athletes instead of professionals.
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:08 PM
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33. What professionals do we send besides Basketball
and if you haven't noticed the NBA has been globalized with players from all over world who are playing for their home countrys. Not to mention that Basketball is just one metal. What other sports do we have pros in? Football, nope. Baseball, nope. Guess what, that it. Those are the pro sports. Take your head out of your ass.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:34 PM
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41. What part of "collegiate athletes" do you not understand, Sidney?
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 07:34 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
And what kind of belligerent jackass gets worked up over a topic like this?

The American empire is dying in case you hadn't noticed, genius. Don't guess that matters though -- as long as we can stomp Panama in thumb wrestling and pull down the gold. USA NUMBER ONE!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:36 PM
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45. But everybody sends pros.
Why shouldn't we?
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:42 PM
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50. I think we have a sufficiently large pool of good talent...
...to pull from for most events from our colleges and universities.

Not all other countries do. I think this would set a good example for other countries with lot's of collegiate talent.
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:56 PM
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60. Think this over Jefferson
For example, once a swimmer graduates from college, he or she should just give up their Olympic dream and quit swimming and join the work force of the (as you put it) dying American Empire. They should just give up their dreams and any money from sponserships earned from all their hard work and sacrifices put in as they went through high school and college. Money that would set them up for life in this dying American Empire. Now tell me this Jefferson, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:04 PM
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62. In the sports where they can send pros
and where they actually have pros in those sports, yes they do. Why should we, or any nation, artificially handicap themselves by not competing on the same level. It's not as though our pro athletes are unbeatable compared to theirs; watch the soccer games to see that.

Are you bothered by countries, such as China, who enroll young athletes in total immersion programs and build their entire lives around a sport in order to win medals? If not, then why should the fact that we send pro basketball players to compete with other pro basketball players bother you?
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:27 PM
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69. For the same reason ...
...they break high schools up into different athletic conferences based on enrollment size -- levels the playing field.

The U.S. is a very large country of some 260 million plus people, with sophisticated athletic training facilities in all kinds of sports at colleges and universities all over the country.

Where did I say our sending pro basketball playeres bothers me? I'm just saying I think we could be respectable and plenty competitive with our collegiate athletes and I'd prefer to have them representing us. Why does my expressing this opinion bother you?





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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:52 PM
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75. It doesn't bother me.
Why does my disagreeing with that opinion bother you? That's the essence of communication and exchange of thought.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:07 PM
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78. Doesn't bother me at all.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 04:01 PM
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124. So all those Kenyans that win all the marathons and are
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 04:06 PM by Fla Dem
hugely endorsed should also stop running because they have the wide open African Savannah's to train on? Give me a break. It an athletic competition. The best athletes should compete against one another. Many of the athletes from less affluent countries actually train in countries that do have the facilities. It is a level playing field. In fact it's only been in the last 10-20 years that the US Olympic committee allowed our athletes to get endorsements. So many of the other countries either allowed endorsements, or the athletes were state financed. So our athletes were actually at a disadvantage.
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sentelle (659 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 11:33 AM
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156. lets show them what american sports are all about
Like Marion jones, floyd landis, roger clemens, etc. Yes, let's send the best althletes money can buy, all 'roided up for years, so that they have every advantage.

Collegiate: hah. Most money in collegiate sports go to basketball and football. Hell they sometimes have budgets bigger than the rest of the university, and university degrees just for players.

And the players, well they just want to be in the pro's, to the point of 'roid use in highschool. And let's not forget the frankenfood we all eat to make us all bigger than when everyone was au naturale.
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 12:19 PM
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163. 305-310 million
just to get your numbers right :)
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Bake (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 02:44 PM
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177. So we just send collegiate amateurs, but everyone else can send pros, right?
Is that what you're suggesting? Yao Ming of the NBA played for the Chinese basketball team, and that's OK. But you're saying Kobe, Lebron, and Duane shouldn't play for our team. That's bullshit.

Why SHOULDN'T we win in events we dominate? We don't dominate in everything. I know; let's bar the Russians and Canadians from winning the gold in hockey in the winter games. Just because.

Bake
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:30 PM
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71. What other sports?
Beach volleyball.

Tennis.

I don't know about others.

Anyway, I try to watch Olympic events that aren't full of professionals. I just don't care to see the same old names. I liked it better when the Olympics pretended to be amateur competition. At least we saw new faces in b'ball and tennis.
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 10:51 PM
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100. Beach Volleyball?
Ha! Ok. What do you think their Super Bowl is? How often do you watch it on a non Olympic year? Not to mention that it wasn't an Olympic sport until 4 years ago.

Since when has this been an amateur competition? I want to see the best in the world compete against each other, otherwise when will we see that? Isn't there an Junior Olympics specifically for the athletes that aren't yet at the top of their respective sports? Please, spare everyone this crap about amateurs, that's not at all what the Olympics are about. It's about the best in the world competing against each other.
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 12:47 AM
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115. Yeah, beside the U.S. women's beach volleyball players are...
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 12:48 AM by RNdaSilva
hot.

Ask GWB.
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Bake (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 02:47 PM
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178. That's just it ... the Games only PRETENDED to be amateur.
Bake
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MillieJo (147 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 03:32 PM
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181. I prefer that people can honestly earn money and compete...
Instead of them having to join a professional circuit like they used to which was ignored.
Even the top gymnasts earn money on the Grand Priz circuit, money that helps them raise children and
pay for university, etc.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:17 PM
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36. Other countries send professionals.
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 07:17 PM by Codeine
Why shouldn't we? The young pros in the soccer tournament are often far better than the young men we can send, for example.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:06 PM
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9. I guess that is the part I feel - it isn't just a competition of athletes but the attitude
of dominance - I do root for the people and yes I like to see how someone acts when they win - some are more gracious than others - I am not saying we should run slower, etc as someone else mentioned but we seem to have the funds to send more - some of these countries have good athletes but not the training facilities or opportunities - doing their best is nice - but it is that American arrogance - I remember when I traveled in europe I stayed away from some Americans because it was embarrassing the way they acted - that holier than thou stuff - I find that same thing with republics - they act like they are holy and great and yet so many are in the closet or infidelity but you would think the dems were the only ones when in actuality - those most against something are usually guilty -

anyway - thanks for putting your finger on it - it is the attitude that SOME display and when anyone is in a group they seem to have more of that 'swagger' than when they are a small group or an individual - so it plays out
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Aug-09-08 06:43 PM
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27. What if I only graduated high school but ran a 9.0 100 meters? n/t
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:15 PM
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66. I think someone who runs 100 meters in 9.0 flat...
...could probably get a scholarship to attend a college or university somewhere.

That said, I don't necessarily think we couldn't have any exceptions. I just think we have enough talent at the collegiate level to pull from and still be plenty respectable enough competing in the Olympics.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:18 PM
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67. So now you want exceptions?
That's what created this whole mess to begin with.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:29 PM
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70. I didn't say I wanted exceptions.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:51 PM
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74. You most certainly did.
Post #66:

"That said, I don't necessarily think we couldn't have any exceptions."
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:06 PM
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76. And you're using this quote to support your claim that I said...
...I want exceptions?

Seriously?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:21 PM
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82. Yes.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:42 PM
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83. So you're not serious -- that's what I thought.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:46 PM
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85. Now hold on a sec.
If

"That said, I don't necessarily think we couldn't have any exceptions."

doesn't mean that you are willing to make exceptions, then what DOES it mean? :shrug:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:48 PM
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86. Hey, you said you weren't serious.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:53 PM
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89. Ah, I see we've descended to non-sequiters now.
You made an unsupportable assertion and now you're backing down. That's fine.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:54 PM
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91. You said you weren't serious -- you just want to joke around. That's fine.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:55 PM
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92. When did I say I wasn't serious?
You said that.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:57 PM
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94. When did I say you said I said you weren't serious?
I didn't say nuthin, man, I didn't say nuthin.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 05:06 PM
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191. Actually you said he wasn't serious.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 04:04 PM
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126. Yes, and we are one of the most unfit and obese countries in the world.
Isn't it odd/ironic that we are in such a position of dominance in "athletics" given that fact?

Wonder what THAT means....
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 02:26 PM
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176. What you me "we", kemosabe?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Aug-10-08 04:14 PM
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128. You should root in things like fencing
where we swept, second time in a hundred years,

We got a gold in Athens for the first time in a hundred years


And if you did not see it much on the teevee don't be too shocked, fencing is not sexy enough I guess

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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Aug-11-08 12:43 PM
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169. We now send a bunch of NBA stars to compete in
basketball. What a joke.

I remember back in the 80 winter games when our scrappy amateur hockey team beat the USSR in the finals. That was thrilling and really what the Olympics should be about. Watching a bunch of professionals inevitably win their medals diminishes it for me.
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:01 PM
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7. Latvia just kicked the US's ass in Men's Beach Volleyball. n/t
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:12 PM
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34. I wouldn't call it an ass kicking
they lost in two sets, but by just 2 points in each set. Not really an ass kicking.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:08 PM
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10. No, be the best athlete you can be for goodness sake.
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:09 PM
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11. I don't care who wins. I just want a good show nt
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:21 PM
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13. As Stephen Colbert said...
it's our job to go to China and bring home as many gold medals as we can get - so we can then melt them down and pay back our debt to China
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:31 PM
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40. haha I love Colbert.
:toast:
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-15-08 03:53 AM
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200. An olympic gold medal contains 6 grams of gold
Less than 1/5 of an ounce. Worth about $160 at today's prices (which are falling).

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:21 PM
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14. In 1980 we won zero
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:46 PM
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18. that was really too bad for the athletes - used politics in the wrong way
I liked carter but that I did not like
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:22 PM
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23. Jimmy Carter made them wear sweaters to save energy and they were slowed down by it!
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:55 PM
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59. the boycott was tough on the athletes who were aged especiatlly
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 07:59 PM by 28erl
a different boycott would have been better - this was an example of shooting yourself in the foot or the other saying - cutting off your nose to spite your face
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ZenKitty (116 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 11:12 PM
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107. yes we did...I along with 1000's of competitors were dropped in the grease
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Aug-09-08 05:24 PM
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15. I Know What You Mean,
but what's the solution other than the US handicapping itself. If I were an athlete, I wouldn't want to win against a diluted field.

Collegiate competition has its own unfairness built in. I think the best solution is prosperity and equality for the rest of the world.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:27 PM
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16. I don't know why any American whould be surprised - it's a big sports-obsessed country
that gives out university scholarships just for being good at a sport. Of course you'd get a lot of medals.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:53 PM
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19. I am not embarassed when our athletes do well.

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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 05:57 PM
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20. That is literally
the stupidest fucking thing I've read all day, and there are about 600 Edwards threads competing for that title.

Every country is free to send athletes. We just have a lot of people who do well at sports.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:22 PM
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24. LOL!
:thumbsup:
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:20 PM
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21. China has a national strategy to compete in sports wherea a lot
of medals are awarded. Now THAT is lame, and sooo reminiscent of eastern Europe.
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 12:24 PM
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164. China finds somebody who's good at Ping Pong at 10
and has them do nothing but Ping Pong for the next decade... :rofl:
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:21 PM
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22. i'm certainly sick of the america america
at all times. i want to HEAR other anthems. i want to see different sports and PLEASE can the bios. the chick olypics just pissed me off. I MISS JIM MCKAY and ABC olympics.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:41 PM
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49. that is so true - we get very little information about all the others
that are there - it would be nice to get more information on other countries and see them win and on the podiums
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Bake (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 02:55 PM
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179. Hmmm. You must've missed the piece about the German gymnast
whose sone has leukemia (nowe in remission). She was born in one of the Balkan states, and previously competed for the USSR. She moved to Germany so her son could get treatment. Oh, and she's 33. That's like ancient in gymnast years.

Bake
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MillieJo (147 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 03:39 PM
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183. She's from Uzebeckistan
She was able to pay for the treatment because of her earnings on the Grand Priz and because she has always been a top gymnast won World Championships on floor and bars in 1991 and she just made the Olympic final for vault in 2008.
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:31 PM
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25. No - this isn't pre-school games where the little fat kids get ribbons too
Winner takes all.

To the victor go the spoils.

I don't see anybody crying when Norway wins all the winter game medals.
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 12:25 PM
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165. Thank you
:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:




GOBAMA!
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 02:05 PM
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175. Yeah, but Norway isn't the US, so that's OK
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:32 PM
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26. No
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Wilber_Stool (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:46 PM
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28. The New York Times
map of Olymic medals. Interactive map from 1896 to present.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:49 PM
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55. thanks for that link - that is nice to be able to see each year and who
won - this is great
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:50 PM
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29. Good idea...we should give half of all the medals back that's won...
:sarcasm:
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 06:57 PM
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30. we're one of the more populous countries
300 million plus. Most of the competing countries are a lot smaller - some of them would have problems filling that stadium! Proportionally, the US should get a lot, as should China, and India if they competed in more events.



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proud patriot Lead Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Aug-09-08 07:00 PM
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32. Nope ..not in any way
:hi: we have a rainbow of people here in this country .
Each ethnicity brings it's own talents . I'm a firm believer
in the rainbow bringing strength to our country . Especially
when it comes to competition sports ..

:patriot:
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:29 PM
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39. Well said
just look at the flag bearer Lopez Lomong. He's a one of the 'Lost Boys' of Sudan and came to the US when he was 16. Now he's living a dream competing in the Olympics. I watched a good feature on ESPN's E:60 about what he went through as child and his journey to the US, his success as a track athlete and then his his emotional trip home to his family years later. It was really good stuff. I couldn't find the video but did find this story on him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/trackandfield/columns/sto...
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proud patriot Lead Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Aug-09-08 07:35 PM
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44. Thanks for the link
:)
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:01 PM
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61. You're quite welcome
Thanks for the Smiley face. ;)
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 08:25 PM
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134. Why the fuck should I be embarrassed?
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 09:23 PM by alphafemale
Those kids have worked their whole lives for this and in many cases sacrificed much of their childhood to stand on that podium.

I'm also not the one to be chanting "U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!"

THAT is an incredibly asinine thing to do.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:13 PM
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35. Every country should get the SAME number of medals.
Come to think of it, everyone who participates should get a gold medal.

And a cupcake!

And a pony!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:34 PM
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42. Cup cakes? I want in.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:43 PM
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51. i like that idea
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:05 PM
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63. Good lord I do believe you're serious.
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 08:08 PM by Codeine
Why even have an Olympiad, then?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:26 PM
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37. The haul of medals don't bother me so much...
It's the whole corporate love-fest that gets me! :mad:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:35 PM
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43. That's universal, however.
Nobody complains because it can't be laid at the feet of the US.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:28 PM
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38. You mean some sort of "medal redistribution" plan so that
everyone can feel good about themselves because everyone gets the same number of medals? Perhaps stop keeping score at Little League baseball games or no more Tag games so that Johnny won't feel left out - that sort of thing? Oh, and stop grading papers in school with red ink.
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 10:54 AM
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153. Yes. What the fuck kind of living Rush strawman feels guilty about Americans winning gold medals?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:38 PM
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46. No. How did you feel about the 1976 East German Olympic Swim team?
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:40 PM
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47. How many did they win?
I wasn't born yet... :yoiks:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:44 PM
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52. hmmmmm. Ok here's the link
steroid scandal btw, that's why i'm asking, look at the women's medals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_at_the_1976_Summe...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 07:58 PM
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132. Some of the East German female athletes were literally turned into males
Some of the female Chinese swimmers lately have looked the same way.

Check the winners' rosters AFTER the fall of the Wall: most of the East German swimmers and track athletes no longer appear.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:40 PM
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48. Nope, I like it That we Win
Our athletes train (often from a very young age) hard. If they're the best in their competitions, they deserve the medals they bring home.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:48 PM
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54. which of our athletes would you like to see lose...?
we enter most if not all the events- many countries don't. and many times more than one of our athletes qualify for each event.

and- many of our athletes are immigrants themselves or children of immigrants- and they are proud to compete under our flag.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:52 PM
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57. you miss my point - that is ok - some people don't look at lots of views
I am just glad all these countries show up or we would have no one to beat - they are pretty good sports to allow us to continue to trounce them and spend the money to come back and get beat over and over
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:07 PM
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64. We don't "trounce" them.
Believe it or not the rest of the world does fairly well against us in most events.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 11:01 PM
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103. you must not view much in the way of olympic results, either.
we tend to get "trounced" ourselves just as much as we "trounce" the others.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Aug-09-08 07:50 PM
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56. As an AMATEUR figure skater....
I prefer NOT to have to compete against pros, but I often do anyway--and go home empty-handed as a result. :(
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 07:53 PM
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58. I was thinking it takes more courage to show up time and time again
knowing you are outnumbered and still just do their best - takes a lot more courage and teanacity, I would think, to show up knowing you do not have a chance but just want to do it - to do it
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:07 PM
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65. It sure does.
But it takes just plain being better to win a medal.
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Sidney J Mussburger (448 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 11:01 PM
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102. Maybe you shouldn't suck so much
hahaha, just kidding :hi:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:21 PM
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68. it's not just the United States, it's true of many other nations also
which have either large population or are wealthy enough that many in their nation have a chance at it.

the nations with few people are either small or either odn't have or put much into athletics.

i see nothing wrong with it. i remember during Greece when it was time for their own member to play they got a huge response also.



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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:34 PM
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72. It's relative to populaiton - that's just the facts
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INDIA (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:55 PM
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93. Tell that to India, Malaysia, etc. n/t
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 10:06 PM
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96. Not our fault they suck!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 12:21 AM
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112. India doesn't invest in sports for the country , they could if they wanted to
but the politicians are too corrupt and only care about themselves.
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MillieJo (147 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 03:50 PM
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185. They have great Cricket teams though.....
And they have a couple of tennis players around like Sania Mirza.


Australia are hugely into their sports though, they have a national sports centre in Brisbane which is where their great
swimmers are trained.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 10:31 PM
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99. good to see you and your bears around again lately n/t
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MillieJo (147 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-11-08 03:56 PM
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186. Australia has a small population and look at their team...
It depends on the national importance. In Australia, sporting success in hugely important...They have top swimmers, rugby players, tennis players, cricket players, divers, track and field, cyclists etc, they always get a good place on the medals tables at the Summer Olympics and normally win the Commonwealth Games medal tally. Unlike America they don't do well at the Winter Games.
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World Citizen (363 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 08:37 PM
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73. medal schmedal... country schmountry
It's the competition. Competing against the best make some people dig down and reach the pinacle of what they are capable of. That's the beauty. Humans doing better than they have done before. Remember Olga and Nadia?
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:07 PM
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77. call the wahhhhbulance....
what's wrong with supporting the best athletes in the world?
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:09 PM
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79. Another thing...
This isn't the Kumbayalympics. It is an athletic competition meant to pit the best athletes in the world against one another. It isn't our fault that we have so many talented athletes in this country or that we support athletics. "other should get a turn more often"-- what complete bullshit. Why not just have a lottery to decide to contestants? fucking ridiculous.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:17 PM
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80. A lottery for contestants? Hell, let's get rid of the contest and
everyone can get a gold medal! :sarcasm:
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:18 PM
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81. But what would we call it?
Special Olympics is already taken....
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 11:32 PM
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109. Well...I like your "Kumbayalympics"!
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:45 PM
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84. Not at all
If you're the better team why shouldn't you be taking home as many medals as you're capable of winning?
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:49 PM
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87. The United States has 636 Athletes at the Olympics and the little island of Cuba has...
165 athletes. I don't see a problem with the number of athletes we send, if they are the worlds best they deserve to be there.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:50 PM
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88. No. You must CRUSH your opponent. No mercy.
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 09:50 PM by Canuckistanian
Anything else is weakness. This country wasn't built on wimpy ideas like "cooperation" and "compromise".

Hit 'em hard.

It's the only language they understand.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 09:53 PM
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90. I'm assuming Canada
will be donating it's medals this time? ;)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 10:05 PM
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95. Might as well
We've got a major push to be rated #16 or better. I just heard it on the news today.

I couldn't be prouder.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 10:08 PM
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97. We're Number 1. . . 6! nt
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-10-08 07:11 PM
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130. I have a friend through work who has a won a bronze in Hockey for Canada
:toast:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 10:24 PM
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98. roflmao n/t
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-09-08 11:02 PM
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104. You don't go to the Olympics to give other teams a sporting chance