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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:37 PM
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Is Apple the new "Man?" Apple Can 'Kill' iPhone Apps Remotely, Or Can It?
PC World published an article today describing rumors of an iPhone "kill switch" by which Apple can remotely terminate any application running on your phone.

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Remember when one of the biggest selling points Apple loyalists would give you was how the company was more "real" and "of the people" and not some big all-powerful corporate "Man" with draconian tactics and intrusive, nannying software? Yes, I suppose this was before Apple began branching out into other markets. But Apple fan's would smugly boast of Apple while trashing the tactics and intrusive designs of Microsoft and its operating system.

Now what happens? Apple hits it big in other markets with ipods and iphones, and within just a few years, they appear to be doing the exact same things. Stifling independent developers, attempting to keep control over users personal products - Apple is the new "Man."

http://practical-vision.blogspot.com/2008/08/apple-can-...


Is this just the unavoidable direction of companies once they get really successful or what? Sigh...
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:40 PM
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1. Well, I was thinking about getting an iPhone, but now I'm not.
Screw that.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:43 PM
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3. Well its not completely clear what this thing is really about....
...someone found the bit of code that makes this possible, and so far Apple is not explaining or commenting.

The other part of the story is about Apple making all app developers sign and NDA so that they aren't even allowed to talk to each other about the apps they develop - no collaboration means = crappier software developed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:42 PM
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2. I haven't had any problems with my iphone.
I don't know what you are talking about.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:45 PM
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5. Spoken like a conservative hahaa
I know you're not for heaven's sake, but common - you gotta admit that head-in-the sand response sounded eerily familiar.

It's not clear exactly what this code is all about. And the iPhone is a totally righteous piece of technology, no one is arguing that. But its interesting to see Apple become more like companies it use to be worshiped for being different than.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:57 PM
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9. I still don't know what you are talking about
And no I am not a conservative. LOL
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:45 PM
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4. All I can say is remember NuBus?
Control over the product has always been part of their strategy.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:46 PM
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6. I don't remember NuBus... *cringes* am I supposed to...
...tell me what it is
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:59 PM
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10. Nah. It was just part of early architecture strategy .
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 01:59 PM by btmlndfrmr
Probably would have been helpful if I would have said Nubus slots vs PCI slots

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.06/06.04/Nu...


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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:46 PM
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7. That's a bit of a hysterical reaction. If they miss a piece of malware and it gets distributed
through their online store, it might be useful to have a "kill switch" to stop it from doing serious damage. Not to mention, the killswitch is just a rumour at this point. The few apps that they've pulled from their store are because of legal issues and because of not wanting to deal with people accidentally purchasing a 1000 dollar screensaver.

They haven't pulled anything draconian and until they do, I'm not going to panic.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:47 PM
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8. It's not a rumor per se. The code is really there. What it is actually for or how its used is
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 01:50 PM by Political Heretic
unclear.

From PCWorld:
"Still the "kill switch" theories grow with no word from Apple about what it really is there for. Some suggest its there as a way of killing truly malicious software programs (much like anti-virus software) should they slither onto your iPhone. Others, suggest the "kill switch" exists to give company IT staff a way of locking the iPhone down so they will be in compliance with the company's mobile handset policies.

Zdziarski admits he hasn't a clue what it is there for saying: "For all we know, it could trigger world war 3, or it could cause some computer somewhere to spit out recipes for buttermilk pancakes."


EDIT -- what's more I don't want them "killing" ANY app I chose to download to my personal phone that I paid for. If it hurts my phone, I'll take responsibility. Once it's there they should piss off.

This is going to end up being more about stuff like record companies not wanting certain sharing apps or something to be allowed on iphone and Apple caving in and remote nuking people who have yet to be proven to do a damn thing wrong.

I'm sick of the Corporate Man looking over my shoulder every second to see if I'm screwing him out of some profit. So far the answer has always been NO and yet I've been screwed out of my freedom and privacy.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:08 PM
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11. Mmmm, pancakes!
No iPhone for me. I just want a phone to make phone calls, don't need all those bells-n-whistles.

Love my iPod, though :loveya:.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:01 PM
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12. I want an ipod as well! iphone is too much "tool" for me hee hee :)
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 03:01 PM by Political Heretic
But I've played with my friends (iphone...not tool) and it is a pretty amazing thing.
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