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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:44 PM
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Ivins And His E-Mails.......
Yesterday I read the following:

"FBI agents who raided Ivins' house after he committed suicide found a bullet-proof vest, completed paperwork for the purchase of a Glock handgun and scores of e-mails detailing plans to kill his co-workers and others."

Did he send these e-mails to himself? Come on - who were these e-mails sent to. Did the FBI say? Why didn't these people speak up that they received such e-mails? Why don't they do so now? Did he have an accomplice?

If Ivins was concerned for his life because he was a target of the FBI - do you think that this might have motivated him to get a bullet-proof vest? or provided him the need to purchase a gun?

If these items weren't planted in his house by the FBI - did the FBI scare him enough for Ivins himself to acquire - for protection against them(the FBI)and then did they use to this to pin this on him?

After all from what I read they were harassing him and his family for quite some time.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:46 PM
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1. I asked the same question about the emails. So much for gun rights too, eh?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:47 PM
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2. Ah, the FBI found their perfect scapegoat. They must but in seventh heaven.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:47 PM
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3. If the FBI had those emails, they'd be on billboards by now.
Just like if they found trace material in the family vehicles, there would be full page ads in the NYTs.

:shrug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:04 PM
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7. Depends on what they said.
If they said something involving BushCo or national security, they'd be very cautious with them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:07 PM
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9. If they said Ivins was going to kill anyone, the rest would be redacted.
Hell, I'm surprised we haven't seen these emails already.

Maybe someone is still editing them.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:50 PM
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4. must have been in his 'drafts' folder, waiting to be sent after he got the glock...
and put on the bulletproof vest and went and killed his co-workers and then was going to take the tylenol to stop the headache from all the activity...

poor guy just got the steps out of order...that is all...move along...tragedy explained, disaster averted...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:54 PM
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5. Could have been draft emails, that he was planning to mass mail when he started his plan.
:shrug:

Who knows? It's hard to believe the federal government, but at the same time some people seem determined to not believe it no matter what. There are always holes. And you can say anything with scorn and make it sound ridiculous. "So, some super being just created the world because he was bored, eh?" "So, the world just exploded out of nothing, eh?" It's easy. I've seen people who still think the DC sniper was some sort of Manchurian zombie.

We won't know anything until Bush leaves, and even then somebody will doubt whatever conclusion emerges.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:59 PM
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6. Or the emails were to his co-conspirator Dick Cheney
And it would break national security rules to mention that.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:05 PM
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8. Hehe. I was just posting something similar above. nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:47 PM
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10. This man will have justice. His friends and family will
have to make it clear about the harassment.
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