Irony Department: Members of Christian bike gang arrested in raids

[Taverner]

Members of Christian bike gang arrested in raids



(08-06) 08:46 PDT Anaheim, CA (AP) --

SWAT teams have raided several Orange and Riverside county homes to arrest members of a Christian motorcycle gang in connection with several stabbings.

Anaheim police Sgt. Tim Schmdit says eight members of the "Set Free Soldiers" gang were taken into custody early Wednesday for investigation of attempted murder.

No injuries were reported.

Police served 11 search warrants in Anaheim, Costa Mesa and Rancho Santa Margarita in Orange County and Norco in Riverside County.

Schmidt says the raids were prompted by a fight in a Newport Beach bar last week between members of the bike gang and the Hell's Angels. Three people were stabbed in that confrontation.



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[aspergris]

1. what's ironic is that

the christian gang was arrested after getting into a fight with hell's angels.

or maybe that's what you meant.

it's like The Prophecy.

was christopher walken involved?

[Taverner]

2. Whats ironic to me is that a Christian group stabbed a few of them

No love the the Hells Angels, but I thought Christians were supposed to turn the other cheek?

Oh yeah, they worship the republican jesus...

[aspergris]

4. that part i don't find ironic

they are a christian motorcycle gang. not a perfect people motorcycle gang.

not to mention that for all i know it was self-defense.

i mean they stabbed HELL'S ANGELS for pete's sake lol.

[Taverner]

5. Do you need SWAT officers to arrest someone for self defense?

[aspergris]

7. need?

the question isn't what you need

the question is what is the proper response to arrest multiple suspects for a violent felony.

iow, what's the proper balance in regards to show of force/manpower/firepower/etc. as related to perceived risk to suspects/cops/civilians at the scene.

clearly, the DA/Cops didn't think there was sufficient evidence at this point to believe it's self-defense or the cops wouldn't have gone and made the arrest.

i said it MAY be self-defense.

using swat is a good tactic for this type of arrest.

in my agency, we use a rather detailed threat matrix/;questionnaire to decide when to use swat for warrant and high risk arrests.

it's always a balancing test.

[Taverner]

8. True true

But still, I doubt it was self defense

BTW...are you a police officer?

[aspergris]

9. yes

but not SWAT. but i've used them for my search warrants before, when there is sufficient factors on the threat matrix.

fwiw, i agree with balko at reason.com that swat *is* overused. but in an arrest for stabbings in a gang related fight, based on what i know of this case, that's totally reasonable.

[Taverner]

10. Cool. My dad was a cop - SJPD for 25 years

Back then (the 70's) you only used SWAT if 3 patrol cars wasn't enough. And they used to double up the cars back then.

[aspergris]

12. SJPD

is famous for developing an excellent field training system that is still in use today (modified a bit though)

pretty progressive agency.

if you mean San Jose... CA

otherwise... carry on :)

[Taverner]

Yep that one

:)

[Dogtown]

16. Armed Xian Gang

and you see no irony?



:shrug:

[Hubert Flottz]

18. In a bar no less...

Edit...Maybe the Angels didn't like their snakes.

[Dogtown]

21. No telling

I'm sure I would have found them offensive, but I'll admit a lack of neutrality on the issue.



"Snakes" is very good!

[SpiralHawk]

29. Probably getting toasted with Holy Wine

I am sure St. Peter will take that into account when the gang gets to the Pearly Gates.

[rucky]

3. Christopher Walken is always involved.

We just don't know it.

[aspergris]

6. yes. see below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hDGAvqwgdk

[Winterblues]

11. In a bar no less.

:shrug: How very Christian of them....

[aspergris]

13. christianty is not inconsistent with bars

for pete's sake, remember what the monks invented.

or jesus drank.

[Taverner]

15. Especially the BELGIAN monks!!!!

[Initech]

14. What would Jesus drink?

[XOKCowboy]

20. Most likely Chimay - It's blessedly good

:toast:

[Swamp Rat]

32. mmmm!... did someone say Chimay?

:beer:

[Dr.Phool]

30. WWJD

We Want Jack Daniels.

[VOX]

17. WWJS? (Whom Would Jesus Stab?)

**Christian bike gang** :crazy:

That's one for the books.

[EstimatedProphet]

19. The Book of Harley, chapter 6, verses 5-18

And in those days Jesus and his bike club did ride unto Jerusalem. But they were met by Roman pigs at the gates. Jesus said unto them "Let us into the city, yea, for we have right to enter, or I'll kick your fucking ass." then the Romans held Jesus, but Jesus broke free and did smash a chair over one of their heads. Simon called Peter stabbed a Roman in the back. the gang then did flee the area.

May God grant us the wisdom to understand these words.

[FloridaJudy]

22. Bwahhaaaahaaaaahaaaaa! Snort.

:spray: :rofl:

Most excellent!

[geomon666]

28. Christ on a bike that's funny

We ride!

[cobalt1999]

23. Wow, and I thought the Mormons where aggressive about converting folks.

I guess if a motorcycle gang showed up to "witness" to me, I might think twice before slamming the door in their faces.

[Javaman]

24. The bigger question is....

What kind of knife would Jesus carry to a gang fight?

[guitar man]

25. That's easy, a Buck 110

That's the knife all the old school bikers carried. ;) :hi: :rofl:

[Javaman]

34. Now that's a knife. nt

[Ken Burch]

26. So tonight, TBN and the other evangelical networks will say "Christian Bikers Are Persecuted"!

And they'll blame the whole thing on a ban on prayer in Sturgis.

[guitar man]

27. there's no ban on prayer in Sturgis

McCain was there....he even offered a sacrifice! :rofl:

[Dr.Phool]

31. They were praying for him to STFU and leave.

[guitar man]

33. actually

most of them probably were. that's a freewheeling bunch and I bet they didn't appreciate the gestapo style security that must have come along with McGramps interrupting their rally.