On The Today Show this AM.... Anthrax suspect’s colleague blames FBI for suicide

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26007186/
Watch the video link on the same page

Anthrax suspect’s colleague blames FBI for suicide
He calls motives ascribed to Bruce Ivins in mailings that killed 5 ‘ridiculous’

By Bob Considine
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 8:33 a.m. ET, Mon., Aug. 4, 2008

After the suicide last week of Bruce Ivins, the FBI’s prime suspect in the 2001 anthrax mailings that killed five people and had a nation fearing to open its mail, a friend and former colleague of the microbiologist says federal investigators were going after the wrong person and that it was their pressure on Ivins that led to his demise at his own hands.

“It’s possible somebody could hide that from all of your co-workers and nobody would ever hear about it,” Dr. Russell Byrne acknowledged to TODAY co-host Meredith Vieira on Monday. “But I really, really doubt it.”

Byrne, an infectious-disease specialist who worked as a research scientist at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases from 1993 to 2000, described himself as a friend of Ivins for 15 years. They attended the same Roman Catholic church in Frederick, Md., where Ivins was a member of the church band. After viewing a pre-interview report about the FBI’s investigation of Ivins, Byrne appeared so visibly shaken that Vieira commented on it.

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[peacetalksforall]

1. We have so much more to learn. At this moment in time, I believe he was set-up

for one very good reason - the years that passed without an indictment and the subsequent need to finalize the murders, the dead, those Dems threatened, and the illness to 22 innocent victims.

I believe FOR NOW that government employees (or their contractors) murdered for their war of profit, power, destruction, and destroying us and our economy.

Along the way they got their kicks - toxins, torture, torment, deaths of innocents on four aircraft and in the buildings, abuse of soldiers, dictatorship, and total disregard for two countries and all their innocent people and the ruination of their historic culture and contemporary infrastructure - Iraq, plus Afganistan, and now, maybe Iran.

We don't even know how much more evil will descend on us and the world by their agenda for the world.

[Supersedeas]

2. Who profits if we assume the 'vaccine motive' that the Media has been shepherding: look at Byrne's

answer. How much you wanna bet the Media backs way off on the vaccine motive -- it directly implicates the government, not Ivin's individually.

[robertpaulsen]

3. Was this the guy scrubbed from the NY Times story?

The one that shrunk online from 2 pages to one?

[Supersedeas]

4. If this is another flimsy circumstantial case--Hatfill was compensated by the taxpayers. Who will

be held accountable for the Hatfill fiasco and what looks like another fiasco with Ivins.

[tblue37]

5. I hope that so many of his friends and colleagues step up with the truth that the government

won't be able to silence them after all.

[tblue37]

6. Reading the article at the link, I came across this appalling passage:

Officials say they had been preparing an indictment against Ivins and would have sought the death penalty for his involvement in the anthrax-laced letters mailed from a New Jersey post office box that crippled mail delivery for months <emphasis added>.

Notice the assumption of guilt?--None of that "alleged involvement" stuff for Ivins. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[unblock]

8. an indictment IS an allegation

you don't indict someone for allegedly killing someone.
you indict someone for actually killing someone.

[tblue37]

9. The point is that the article says he *was involved* in the mailing of the anthrax letters, not that

he would be indicted for his alleged involvement in the mailing of the anthrax letters.

[unblock]

10. and my point is that "indict" is just as good as "allege" for this purpose

an indictment of x, y, and z is an allegation of x, y, and z.
you don't have to say "allegedly" when you've already said "indictment".

the sentence construction does not presume guilt, it only describes an accusation.

[momster]

11. The Death Penalty?

The way this is written makes it sound like crippling mail delivery is worse than killing a journalist. Oh, wait...this is the Bush Administration still...

[hootinholler]

14. Look at the text on the links to other stories:

More about the anthrax case

* DNA led agents to anthrax suspect, scientist says
* Deep Background: Ivins was a ‘revenge killer’
* Key events in the anthrax case
* Is another Bruce Ivins lurking in a biolab?
* Once common on skln, anthrax deadly in lungs

Unbelievable! Is another Bruce Ivans lurking? It's like the FBI/DHS wrote that one.

-Hoot

[TexasObserver]

7. For five years, they said Hatfill did it, and the complicit media lapped it up.

You'd think the Richard Jewel case would have taught them something.

[bertman]

12. You're right, of course, TexasObserver. Except that it's not a matter of "learning" anything

when your mission is to spew propaganda. It amazes me that any American still believes that the MSM is interested in journalism when they have shown that all they are interested in is bolstering any government/corporate/military innuendo that is thrown out as news.

They ceased to be news organizations 30-plus years ago.

[Supersedeas]

13. the Media is more than just tone deaf