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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 06:59 AM
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Ivins Therapist Duley in Articles on Overdoses - One called "The Legal Killers"
Her substance abuse license required that she be 18 years of age and have an associates degree. She had to work under supervision and apparently, by the state listing, wasn't able to practice independently. I'd assumed that she was Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) but this is a lesser degree.

So Duley worked at the Comprehensive Counseling Associates. She's a Bachelor of Social Work and CSC - AD. Here is what her credentialing means in the state of Maryland:
Certified Supervised Counselor-Alcohol and Drug (CSC-AD):
http://www.ceattc.org/md_certification.asp#CSC-AD
- At least 18 years of age
- Associates degree in Health or Human Services counseling field or completed a program of studies judged by the Board to be substantially equivalent in subject matter and extent of training
- 15 credits, including a minimum 1 credit Ethics in A&D counseling course
- 2 years, 2,000 hours. 1 year must be after the award of the degree
- MACCB/ICRC-AODA exam
- Practice under the supervision of a CPC-AD or other supervisor approved by the Board AND while an employee of a JCAHO or Maryland State accredited program

Isn't it ironic that she specialized in treating narcotic addictions and discussed the dangers of overdoses.

TheFrederickPost.Com
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display....

The legal killers
Two-thirds of countys accidental drug deaths in 2005-06 related to narcotic painkillers



(Pictured, Jean Duley, therapist who
was to testify against Ivins)

By Ashley Andyshak
News-Post Staff
Originally published June 29, 2008

Forty people died of drug overdoses in Frederick County in 2005 and 2006, and just four were deemed intentional suicides, according to autopsy reports reviewed by The Frederick News-Post at the Maryland Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.
The number of accidental drug overdose deaths in the United States rose from 11,155 in 1999 to 22,400 in 2005, according to Leonard J. Paulozzi of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who testified to Congress about the growing problem this spring.
And some of the main culprits may be in your own medicine cabinet.
Prescription drugs were the main cause of 45 percent of accidental overdoses in 2005, the most recent data available from the CDC, and painkillers accounted for nearly all of these. A study published last fall in the Archives of Internal Medicine showed oxycodone alone killed 5,548 people between 1998 and 2005, making it the deadliest drug approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
Narcotic painkillers contributed to 25 of the deaths of Frederick County residents who died in 2005 and 2006.


Up close and personal

TheFrederickPost.Com
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display....

Suboxone provides promising treatment for prescription addicts

By Ashley Andyshak
News-Post Staff

The lifestyles of Jean Duley's clients run the gamut: long-time street drug users, those who were prescribed powerful painkillers after an injury or operation and are now addicted, and middle-class housewives who abuse prescriptions, to name a few.

"Prescription drug abuse is the biggest kept secret," said Duley, program director at Comprehensive Counseling Associates in Frederick. "It's a lot more prevalent than people can imagine." Snip

Others prescribe painkillers too loosely. Duley said some of the center's suboxone clients have Percocet "handed to them like candy for every little ache and pain -- it's a culture of doctors not paying attention. The worst is OxyContin. That drug -- is so highly addictive, it's so difficult to come off of."
Some people can stop taking suboxone after a few months, but most continue for as much as a year before weaning themselves off, Levy said. For others, it becomes a lifelong maintenance drug.


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:07 AM
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1. A successful railroading of Ivins requires an intense smear with no one....
examining his few accusers.

Looks like that might not happen.

Good work.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:12 AM
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3. This was pretty easy to find - June 2008. Glad it showed up.

She was very junior on the pecking order. 18 plus an A.A. Nothing wrong with that but it's a lot different than being a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. They can practice independently. The blurb above says she must be supervised. Wonder who did that?

Would she be qualified to read his history from those "top psychiatrists" who said he was "sociopathic?"



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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:36 AM
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4. I have a feeling the FBI was feeding her the info.
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 08:21 AM by screembloodymurder
They scared the shit out of her, offered her no protection, and even after the suspect threatened random killings, they failed to keep him institutionalized. The guy was unstable and should have been picked up for his own protection. It stinks! I read somewhere that Ivins accepted a plea deal two hours before he was found. His lawyer says no, but I wonder if he was going to name others? No matter how it happened, they wanted him dead.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:18 PM
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17. His lawyers asserted his innocence.

That struck me. They didn't have to do that. It's a major DC firm too.

They've asserted quite a history for Ivins. If it's true, what kind of background checks is the
government doing on people who can do great damage? If it's not, well ...

I do think you're right, just form the general impression I've gotten from reading her various
quotes.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:08 AM
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2. Suboxone
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 07:18 AM by autorank
Too bad there was no autopsy.

http://www.drugs.com/suboxone.html

What is Suboxone? <the drug Duley is holding up in the photo in the OP>
Buprenorphine is an opioid medication. Buprenorphine is similar to other opioids such as morphine, codeine, and heroin however, it produces less euphoric ("high") effects and therefore may be easier to stop taking.

Naloxone blocks the effects of opioids such as morphine, codeine, and heroin. If Suboxone is injected, naloxone will block the effects of buprenorphine and lead to withdrawal symptoms in a person with an opioid addiction. When administered under the tongue as directed, naloxone will not affect the actions of buprenorphine.

Suboxone is used to treat opiate addiction.

Suboxone may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide.

Snip

The Suboxone tablets should be placed under the tongue and allowed to dissolve.

Do not chew or swallow the tablets.

Suboxone may cause withdrawal symptoms if taken too soon after a dose of heroin, morphine, or methadone.

Suboxone can cause drug dependence. This means that withdrawal symptoms may occur if you stop using the medicine too quickly. Withdrawal symptoms may also occur at the start of treatment due to dependence on another drug. Suboxone is not for occasional ("as needed") use. Do not stop taking Suboxone without first talking to your doctor.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:42 AM
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5. Anything on Duley earlier than June, 2008...
As of now, it looks like *someone* was try to build her up as "an expert in her field" STARTING in June 2008.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:18 AM
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8. She's written LTTEs starting in 2002...
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/archives/resu...

So, at least according to the archives of the Frederick News Post, she has a past.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:50 AM
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6. Conclusion: She has no qualifications to diagnose mental health problems
Outside her training.

Specifically, her rants about homicidal ideation and soiopathology are largely gleaned from watching too much CSI in reruns before dinner.

Ms. Duley's evidence is unpersuasive at best, eerily fabricated at worst.

The DoJ should immediately release any and all evidence they have related to Mr. Ivin's case. There is no national security issue involved that would prevent the release of that evidence, since the Lab is a US government lab.

Full disclosure on the anthrax case NOW.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 11:38 AM
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10. Right
As a citizen, she has a right to be heard on a restraining order but that testimony and the
magistrates court that heard it got presented as as something more than it was. There should
have been a clear warning in the AP article on this.

Release everything now.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 02:28 PM
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27. Indeed. She's very clearly being puffed up in the press - far beyond her merits.
I have a friend with exactly the same credentials she apparently has ... good guy but NOT someone I'd rely on in a case like this. The 'rice bowl' for these people is the court system that REQUIRES defendants (DUI and pot) to obtain the cookie-cutter kind of "therapy"/counseling (almost always in group sessions) this cottage industry provides. The courts are pumping the customers (defendants) out faster than your neighborhood high school dropout can get the AA from his local community college. It's a bureaucrat's dream.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 07:56 AM
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7. Exit Jean Duley...Stage right...
....

"Jean is currently at an undisclosed location," McFadden said.

....

Duley told the court she had been subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury Friday. She was reluctant to become involved in the FBI's investigation of Ivins, McFadden said. "She had to quit her job and is now unable to work, and we have spent our savings on attorneys."

McFadden would not provide any specific information about Duley's involvement with Ivins or the investigation.

"Jean is the kind of person who believes her life is insignificant in comparison with the kind of damage Dr. Ivins is capable of," he said. "She sacrificed all this stuff because she wanted to do the right thing. She'll soon reveal what many wouldn't because they didn't want to be involved with it."

.....

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display....
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 11:46 AM
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12. Ivins, her "threatening client,is alive, she sticks around. He's gone for good and she leaves

That makes no sense. She should feel a sense of relief for her own safety (also failure since
her 'patiente' died!).

But why is she in an 'undisclosed' location? A federal grand jury it would seem.

As for being broke due to lawyers, her employer would be obligated to cover her legal fees related to
work.

Doesn't pass the smell test.

Nice find.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 03:02 PM
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30. Referenced in the article McFadden is Duley's seven yr fiance
Yes it's getting stranger than weird.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:10 PM
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21. This one's loaded.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 09:02 AM
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9. my fav tells are the terrible handwriting matches and the fact that they/she misspelled "therApist"
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:06 PM
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13. Good point - most people can spell their vocation correctly
Pretty legible for a health care note. No abbreviations. And she's relying on "Dr. David Irwin" as
the source. Why doesn't she note her own fear? And why is a health provider talking about "capital"
murders.

But she's hiding out, after the source of her fear has ceased to be a threat.



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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:48 PM
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19. Need One Of DU's Handwriting Experts To Chirp In here
They did a pretty good job on Obama's
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 03:21 PM
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31. Where did this note come from?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 11:41 AM
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11. there are many ironies that surround Duley -- the overdose is a salient one
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:10 PM
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14. Just holding that bottle right out there. Now irony #2.

Why do into hiding when the source of your stated fear, Dr. Ivins, is no longer around do do you any harm?

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:14 PM
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15. Irony #3: Duley claims unequivocally that Ivins "is a revenge killer." What possible revenge might
a government scientist have against the Democratic leadership?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:57 PM
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20. They're overcome by that irony.
So much so that they won't ever mention it.

The way this topic has been handled here shows how full of holes, anomalous, this series of events is.
It's also what I like about this place and have missed amidst the even year reverie.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:18 PM
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16. that photo is frightening: can you imagine her shoving those pills in your face
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 01:10 PM by Supersedeas
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:25 PM
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18. Right. In the article, she's so assured on the topic.
I got the impression that she was fronting for the center. I believe that MD's would have trouble
'pitching' a drug as she seems to do ('seems'- geez, I posted the pic).

One thing for sure, people seeking 'confidential' treatment wouldn't be comforted by this whole affair
given the combination of illegal drug use and a "theripist" (form the hand written note) who busts her
patients.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:13 PM
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22. her breach of confidentiality doesn't bother me so much--the context and the veracity of her breach
means more to me.

Allegedly, the 'threatening' statements were made at a 'group' therapy session. Surely, there ought to be others who heard Ivins outburst and can give some background as to the context of his outburst.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:26 PM
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23. Right.
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 01:26 PM by autorank
And his message as referenced in the transcript of the 7/24 hearing.

Ivins supposedly said: "Duley: That one was rather scary. He very calmly thanked me for ruining his life
and opening, allowing the FBI now to be able to prosecute him for the murders and that it was all my
fault, and it's going to be my fault that they could now get him."

Someone astutely pointed out that this sounds more like someone expressing their betrayal than
a threat.

But the threat in the group session is significant. Why would he do it there unless a) he was so
disconnected it didn't occur to him that everyone could break confidentiality or b) well, what if
he didn't do it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 02:05 PM
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25. what could she have told the FBI which would open the door to his prosecution for murder?
I thought that all of his sessions with her were in a group setting. Is she now claiming that Ivin had individual 'therapy' sessions (with a Social Worker) and confessed to the killings?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:29 PM
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24. is it common for the FBI
to give this level of detail during an open terrorism investigation to a social worker?
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 02:14 PM
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26. Reminds me of Linda Tripp. Check out the link for how she's made
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 02:26 PM by mnhtnbb
out after her involvement in setting up Monica.



Linda Tripp has reinvented herselfliterally. Her $30,000 makeover (financed by an anonymous "philanthropist") included a face- and eye-lift, a nose and chin job, and neck liposuction, all performed by Los Angeles plastic surgeon Dr. Geoffrey Keyes.

She also sought the services of celebrity stylist Yuki Sharoni, who sheared her long, tacky locks and transformed them into a conservative layered bob.

<snip>

Reader Mimi Adams updates us that in late 2003 she was settled a lawsuit against the US Defense Department and the US Goverment in which she claimed various privacy violations. She will receive $595K USD courtesy of the American taxpayer.

http://www.weht.net/WEHT/Linda_Tripp.html
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 02:31 PM
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28. are you suggesting that Duley saw an opportunity to manipulate the Media?
how long til Larry King gets an exclusive interview -- while paying top dollar for her 'appearance.'
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 02:37 PM
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29. I'm saying that Duley is probably not acting alone. If Ivins was indeed
being set up, he was somehow steered to her.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:33 PM
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32. "some saw the Dark Side" of Bruce Ivens (none mentioned other than therapist)

http://www.startribune.com/nation/26204669.html?page=1&...

Right here in this article. When you rad it, there's little dark and a number of disbelieving to
outraged friends and colleagues.

Jean Duley is the current dark side source.
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