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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:39 PM
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81 Pages of Mysterious Female Military Deaths (since 2003)
Jeff Farias spent most of his show today reading from this report

http://blueinmo-linksoftheday.blogspot.com/2008/04/link...

Something very weird and very bad is going on over in Iraq and Afganistan

and it's time someone gets to the bottom of it all.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:41 PM
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1. Soldiers are beig dehumanized by the experiences they are undergoing over there.
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 08:42 PM by BrklynLiberal
They are being taught that the "enemies" are not human beings..and are carrying this over to everyone they encounter.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:34 PM
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8. ...and just wait until they get back here.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:07 PM
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10. Steven Green. eom, actually no, not eom yet...
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 10:09 PM by uppityperson
RIP Abeer, Hadeel, Qassim, Fakhriya. http://www.authspot.com/Short-Stories/Abeers-Story.6973...

I had several vietnam vet friends in college who hadn't recovered yet. One beat me up regularly when i complained about his f*ing other women in my car, what a boyfriend. War is hell and I fear for those who have been involved.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:52 AM
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13. My cousin came back from Vietnam and said...
he was going to become a cop to get back at society for drafting him into the war.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:42 PM
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2. Thanks for posting this Wiley
:hug:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:43 PM
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3. Hey sweetie! Call me sometime n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:45 PM
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4. Just talked with my niece - her husband is in Afghanistan. They
have been their less than 3 months and are in a safe area - they have had a number of suicides already. This is crazy.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:54 PM
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5. Very suspicious, tragic and incredibly sad. nt
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:30 PM
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6. Take a look at the "Women" link on Zeitlangers
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 09:30 PM by frogcycle
A VERY large percentage are homicides, suicides, or just "non-hostile under investigation."

See Zeitlangers link below.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:01 PM
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9. The military has many members who
do not want women around...I'm sure there are misogynists who feel killing these women is OK.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:10 PM
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11. I've seen several that were
"spurned lover" things. She either rejects advances or decides to terminate an affair - he blows her away.

Unfortunately, the pressures of the job, the tensions, the readily available weapons, in some cases the ptsd... mix that with sexual tensions and people who might not be misogynists in the "real world" do horrific things. And yes, there are certainly some serious losers mixed in with the good guys.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:37 PM
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18. Kick
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:31 PM
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7. Could it be a reason to ensure females are not in combat? N/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 01:08 AM
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12. K&R n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:56 AM
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14. nothing to see here. just "boys will be boys" n/t
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:46 AM
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15. 81 pages! are our women simply fresh meat - things


officers are part of it - concealing and changing facts

and some of the officers are perps.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:50 AM
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16. are our women simply fresh meat - things..... yes
but our women arent to be bothered about it

they should just feel lucky living in the u.s. as opposed to say afghanistan or someplace women are sold on slave market or.....

men dont have a choice. just the way they are. all men.....

after all

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:31 PM
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17. THANK YOU for posting this.
I heard most of Jeff's show. He was livid, and rightfully so.

What the hell is going on there?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:52 PM
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19. I have this nagging feeling this needs lots of support and
research
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:52 PM
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20. Is anyone really all that surprised?
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 03:53 PM by SoCalDem
Women in the military have never "really" been accepted.. The good ole boy network grudgingly "accepted" them when they were there to type & file & maybe even drive a vehicle , and of course having the "cute ones" around for "after-hours" fun & games might have been ok, but many macho-military types bristle at the very thought of taking orders from a "gal"..

and women used to get a "pass" from combat duty, which pissed off a lot of men who saw the "gals" getting equal pay to theirs (and sometimes more, because women tended to get busted less often for transgressions), and yet the "gals" were paid and safe.. (That has changed now, but the front-lines chaos actually makes the women MORE vulnerable to attacks from their fellow soldiers)..

Women's military service was ALWAYS voluntary, even when there was a draft, but back then women were not as much of a "threat" to the men.. They did not demand much..

Enter the volunteer military and we have a sub-set of men who crave action, adventure, guns, & violence... who have always liked the idea of a military life, but we no longer have the tempering influence of drafted musicians, writers, artists, quiet bookish guys... We have guys who couldn't quite pass the police exams, guys who like to kick ass now and take names later..soldiers of fortune, with a mercenary mentality..

and the women who join?.. well, many of them are small town women with kids..women who see the military as a way to provide for their single parent families or young girls from small towns who don't want a life of clerking at the 7-11 or selling soft-serve at the DQ..

Young people are always going to be interested in each other, but military guys tend to be controlling people, and many are quite chauvinistic...even in the 21st century..

I know this sounds simplistic or even stereotypical, but I was raised in a military family and I live in a military community, and I grew up seeing this, and still do..
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