National Media TOTALLY IGNORES church murderer's READING LIST . . . WHY????

[Faryn Balyncd]

The national media has apparently decided that the fruits of 24/7 right wing hate is a NON-STORY . . . .

Not only Fox "News", But CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, etc all COMPLETELY OMITTED from their coverage the fact that a search of the gunman's house revealed copies of Michel Savage's "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder", Sean Hannity's "Let Freedom Ring", and Bill O'Reily's "The O'Reilly Factor".

This story was reported by the Knoxville press, then roundly IGNORED and/or suppressed, not only by Fox "News" (the employer of 2 of the above hate-mongers) but by the ENTIRE NATIONAL MEDIA.

A simple Google search of ---- Knoxville Unitarian church (plus either Savage, Hannity, or O'Reilly) ---- will not reveal a single major "mainstream" national news organization reporting a story containing those words.

This BEGS to be compared objectively with coverage of previous massacres.

Has not the reading material of previous crackpot murderers been considered relevant news?

We need to examine the coverage given to previous church shooters, school shooters, and other crackpot murderers.

Did previous murders of this type disappear from the papers and news websites at Fox, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, New York Times, and Washington Post within 2 days?

Was the READING MATERIAL and influences upon these previous crackpots considers NOT NEWSWORTHY?

Are our present national media now doing this because they are intimidated by the incessant charges of "liberal bias" from the RW smear machine, or because they have been specifically intimidated by lawyers from the writers of the books the Knoxville shooter possessed, or both??????


Has the national media sunk to such a low level that a story on the fruits of the right wing's incessant exploitation of hate on the public airways is NOT A STORY of interest????

[yardwork]

1. This kind of suppression is not new. Quite a few recent mass murderers were right-wingers

but you never heard about it in the mainstream media.

You have to really dig through news reports to discover how many of the recent college and institution mass shootings were committed by right-wingers. Quite a few.

The corporate-owned media doesn't report this because they constantly push the propaganda that "liberals" are the cause of the country's problems. If the media reported the truth, people like McCain wouldn't even be running for president.

[sandnsea]

2. Yep, Hitler is always reported

And any other radical or left leaning book. Eric Rudolph gets away with a two year bombing spree when anyone else would have easily gotten the death penalty for a similar political bombing spree. It's crazy.

[Warpy]

3. Well, you know he was a lone, mentally ill person

and he would have snapped against somebody (besides his ex wife who'd had a restraining order out for 8 years) eventually. It doesn't matter what his reading list was or who he listened to on the radio. If he'd been reading Harry Potter, he might have rebelled against Muggles.

That's what the fiction is, in other words. Corporate media doesn't want its bias exposed nor does it want to halt the gravy train that its hate department has provided for so many years.

Media will never admit the truth, that hate radio and hate literature kill. All they need is an angry person with free floating rage. Once they give him/her a target for all that rage, acting on it becomes inevitable.

[grasswire]

4. why?

Because the left does not apparently employ any echo chamber such as the right has developed over the past thirty years in order to push ideology down the throats of the American people.

Think of the resources available to the right to push this kind of news. It's a vast right-wing Wurlitzer. Pundits. Newspapers. TV. Talk radio. Think tanks. Commentators. Drudge. All deployed with a unified message that goes out via FAX every stinking day.

All on the same message. All available to MSM.

Disciplined.

Our side is pitiful when it comes to strategy and telling our story to the people. We have a righteous history and tradition; we are on the better side of human nature, and yet we cannot strategize worth a damn.

[Ian David]

5. See also: Right-Wing Pathologies Revealed After Adkisson Shooting at Unitarian Church

Right-Wing Pathologies Revealed After Adkisson Shooting at Unitarian Church (Freepers laid bare)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Resuscitated Ethics]

6. I tested your theory and you are right

Good work. On page four of the googles the following link to a letter to Sean H may be found:

http://religiondispatches.org/Gui/Content.aspx?Page=AR&...

This suppression is alarming--

[Faryn Balyncd]

9. The letter you linked to Hannity from his former CO-ANCHOR at WGST is wonderful - - Thanks!

[druidity33]

14. excellent link! bookmarked the site. nt

[callous taoboy]

47. That letter is one great resposnse to the UU tragedy. Thanks!

[Dangerously Amused]

50. Wow! Very powerful and moving letter in your link.

Thank you for posting that.

[fascisthunter]

55. Very Well Written Letter

thank you for the post.

[Resuscitated Ethics]

79. Found a mention in small town MSM

this time on page 6 of googley (from Dallas Fort Worth area)

http://www.star-telegram.com/local/story/793577.html

Some of the coding confused (&mdash)but a relevant non-blog mention of the RW hate books.

Thanks to all for taking the time to read the linked letter. I was very moved. There is so much bullying hate speech that otherwise normal people (the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker, our barbers, many coworkers, in-laws, cops)take it for granted.

But just thinking for a moment how much we have been inspired by "marginalized others"

The parallels to marginalized Jewry in Europe in the twenties and thirties are gut-punchingly real.

This is not a test.

[robinlynne]

7. We might start to think about who the real terrorists are..... n/t

[wurzel]

8. If these were books by Micheal Moore they sure would be "relevant"

[NoSheep]

62. Ding!!!

Isn't that the truth.

[librechik]

10. It's always shocking when an incident forces us to notice we live in a propaganda state

never thought the great US would succumb to that stupidity. But here it is. Again.

[MadMaddie]

34. This is what happens when a society takes truth out of reporting

and allows mega-media corporations. Facism at it's best......These media corporations need to be broken up and go back to the rule where they can only have 1 type of media in a particular market.

[malaise]

11. The national media promotes the hatred of liberals

Listen to them carefully. They defend Bushco Inc and corporations. Just listen to them on Carter or Ted Kennedy - look how they dealt with John Edwards.
Has the national media sunk to such a low level that a story on the fruits of the right wing's incessant exploitation of hate on the public airways is NOT A STORY of interest????

The national media has sunk to levels that cannot be calculated.

[unpossibles]

12. because it wasn't rap music and video games

books never hurt anyone, right? </sarcasm>

[Faryn Balyncd]

13. NYT& CNN thought it newsworthy that Unabomber read Le Mis -- "Cabin Inventory Provides Insight"(NYT)

....(and that Kaczynski read Paul Goodman's "Growing Up Absurd: Problems of Youth in the Organized System" and "Asimov's Guide to the New Testament", etc..........)

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE4DF...


http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1997/unabomb/investigation/... /

[Faryn Balyncd]

18. NYT thought Columbine shooter's books & video games newsworthy: "Portrait of Outcasts..." (NYT,1999)

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CEED9...

[kenny blankenship]

15. The corporate media ignores how the killer suckled poison from corporate media figures' teats

I really don't see any mystery there.

[Froward69]

16. I regularly listen to right wing am radio...

as it is wise to study and keep an eye upon the adversary.

they are LIVID as to his reading list. so much so all they can do is scream without mentioning it.

It is UP to US to spread the word. a few compatriots of mine are working on a commercial highlighting this very subject. to be shown the last 30 days before the election.
in the mean time the retardlicans know and run away from the issue. I have been using it all day.


USe it USE it USE it!!!

[madeline_con]

17. And suicidal teens listen to Metallica.

I'm sorry, but you can't blame the authors for some nut going ballistic.

If it were a LIBRUL getting out of hand, would Jon Stewart be condemend if it were found the guy had set his DVR to "record entire series"?

[Faryn Balyncd]

19. Should we suppress reporting motivations of murderers because someone might blame an author?

(& would not Jon Stewart's words would withstand public scrutiny?)

(Michael Savage, on the other hand, had repeated called for a US Senator (Dick Durban) to be "drug out of the Senate chamber in chains" and incarcerated {Sen. Durban's "seditionous" offense, according to Savage, was to cite, in a Senate debate, a U.S. military report which quoted a U.S. military officer's observations & criticism of US actions}. Savage refers to Latin American military coups with admiration, and repeatedly stated that only a right wing military coup can save America {from liberals}. . . . . . . If a person, such as Savage, devotes himself to demonizing and stirring hatred for his political opponents, and advocates disregard of the rule of law in order to accomplish his ends, should not that person's writings, and the actions of those he influences, be a subject of legitimate public interest?)



I tend to think Jon Stewart can stand daylight, while Michael Savage would not.

[madeline_con]

29. I said don't blame the authors.

I didn't say to repress anything. I'm sure millions of idiots read that crap and love every word of it. That doesn't mean the writers are to blame. This froot loop's response is to blame.

[mwb970]

43. The response would not have occurred without the provocation. /nt

[trthnd4jstc]

45. Propagandists Are Too Be Blamed.

The Hate Filled Anti-Liberal Rhetoric of These Authors, and the Hate that They Instill Into Others is Real.
The Horror of Rwanda began with Hate Filled Propaganda. Think about it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

60. There is a significant difference.

Jon Steward critiques.

Savage Weiner advocates.

You will NEVER hear Stewart saying that we should overthrow the RW, that SC Justices need to be lynched, that we should refuse to pay taxes that support illegal wars. He critiques, through humor, what people do.

The RW stooges like Weiner and Hannity and Coulter advocate solutions - suggesting that violence is the way to deal with their problems.

If these guys simply poked fun at the left, ridiculed the Democrats, laughed at the deluded atheists, there would be no problem. What they DO, however, is advocate violence against the left, promote disenfranchisement of the Democrats, and support taking personal physical action ("should have blown up the NYT building", "stir a little arsenic in his tea") against their opponents.

The writers ARE to blame, and they know EXACTLY what their writings will inspire in susceptible readers.

[madeline_con]

81. I can't agree.

That's like holding the "ispired" writers of the Bible accountable for every psycho's interpretation of it.

Kids who hnag themselves with metal playing would have done it anyway. They were disturbed, depressed or whatever to begin with, like this yahoo.

[RaleighNCDUer]

85. Please look up "advocate" in the dictionary.

These RW nutjobs are not commenting or critiquing - and are suggesting a course of action (pretending that it is tongue in cheek) which other RW nutjobs proceed to act on.

There is nothing in Metallica that tells kids to kill themselves. There is nothing on "Law & Order" that suggests burning homeless people alive is something that people should do. People recognize the difference between entertainment or fiction and advocacy.

Are these authors shelved in Fiction?

These hate mongers DO say that liberals should be killed, particular politicians should be assassinated, illegal immigrants should be eliminated. Force yourself to actually READ what these people are writing. It is not some vague "desensitized to violence" thing - these people are saying, flat out, that YOUR life will be better if THOSE people are DEAD.

It is, absolutely, no different than "Mein Kampf" - and we know what happened when we ignored what was said there.

[intheflow]

20. Just another reason why I think our next Activist target should be the media.

I can see Fox not reporting it, but for god's sake, we've had to listen ad infinitum about The Catcher in the Rye and Helter Skelter and Taxi Driver in other murders/attempted murders.

[samsingh]

21. because the msm is totally corrupt

[elehhhhna]

24. GLASNOST! We want it NOW!

[samsingh]

27. Yes!

[lonestarnot]

22. Well gee, I wonder why?

[Joe Chi Minh]

23. As Hunter thompson wrote in his opus, Generation of Swine, "For the most part,

they are dirty little animals with huge brains and no pulse. Every once in a while they will toss up a token human like Ed Bradley or Edwin Newman or Hughes Rudd.... and there are others, no doubt, like Studs Terkel in Chicago and the twisted Rev. Gene Scott, who works like a ferret in the maniac bowels of Southern California.....,

But these are only the exceptions that prove the hideous rule. Mainly, we are dealing with a profoundly degenerate world, a living web of foulness greed and treachery .... which is also the biggest business around and impossible to ignore."

[callous taoboy]

46. I hung out with Hunter one night during Gulf War-

and your excerpt from "Swine" is music to my ears. That night he was rattling of lines just like that. One in particular that I can recall: "God damned George Bush. Every time before he goes on television they have to spray his face with a clear plastic coating to keep him from cracking up." It was a great evening. He kept passing me shots of Wild Turkey.

[Joe Chi Minh]

57. Wow! You must read Generation of Swine. His invective seems to me to be uniquely

brilliant. Some of Christ's diatribes against the orignal scribes and Pharisees are absolutely swingeing, but, of course, not in the least bit funny with it.

But, I can't even imagine diatribes more viciously hilarious than some of them around the beginning and towards the end of that book. Although some of Hunter's anecdotes in another book woud have you crying with laughter for a long, long time.

[callous taoboy]

82. Reading Thompson is very similar to tripping, in my experience.

Generation of Swine came out and was read by me during that sick time of the 80's. I hated the 80's with an unrelenting passion and reading Swine was like having a beer, a bong hit and a rant with a very good, very wise friend. I really regret not actually communicating with him the night I got to be a part of an inner circle of lucky freaks. I was completely in awe.

Have you read Hell's Angels? I believe it, along with Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, are some of the most brilliant, fascinating pieces of literary art. Though H.S. really liked to play it up, it's almost too bad that the drug thing is what a lot of people associate him with. He was so much more than that.

[Joe Chi Minh]

88. Yes, actually I thought that F and L in L V was pretty indifferent actually,

but, like you, I'm surprised and disappointed that it's the only one people most people have heard of.

No, I haven't read his Hell's Angels book, and will try and get hold of it. He does refer to it in some of his books, doesn't he. And the blurbs.

But I think that, as he got older and more mature - towards the end of his life, when his injuries (and maybe substance abuse, too, though, as you say and he admitted, it was nothing like as demented as he made out) would have begun catching up with him - he'd begun to consider the drugs and life-style of dangerous, adrenaline-junkie trips, although glorious in a way, and appreciated by millions, was in truth, pretty callow for a man of is extraordinary sensitivity.

I love the drop-out culture of the sixties in its repudiation of materialism by potential yuppies, shallow as it was bound to be for many, if not most, but I now fear that even marijuana can have deleterious long-term effects. What I would have liked to try, under laboratory conditions is lysergic acid. I've just re-read Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception after many years.

Now and again, in Hunter's later books, you saw that very profound and insightful side of him in sharper focus, such as when he was describing an old-time test-pilot, who was a legend among his fellow test-pilots and evidently a wonderful human being; in contrast to many of the new breed who were highly proficient technocrats but seemed like soulless functionaries, in comparison.

AS Joe Bageant, who was friend and admirer of Hunter, wrote in one of his essays, at times towards the end of his life, he became a caricature of his old self in some of his writings, but that's to be expected, I suppose, of a man who lived a life that was actually larger than life in so many ways. I can well imagine how you must regret not maximising the experience of sharing his company that day. You would have no matter what. It must have been hilarious! He was also great at spotting other people's insights and skill with words. How about this quote from a John Randolph, "He is a man of splendid abiities, but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight." Following the American political scene, it's still a wonder Hunter was sufficiently impressed by it to qote it. Though it is brilliant.

[callous taoboy]

89. If you like Thompson may I also recommend a book by Ken Kesey

called "The Demon Box" which is basically Kesey's autobiography. He was very close to H.S.T. and Hunter figures in Demon Box frequently. It was at Kesey's house that we hung out with the great Doctor as well as 2 of the old Merry Pranksters. Though I have every reason not to, I remember every detail of that night. It was like my brain was instructing me to absorb it all and I can remember it all.

[Joe Chi Minh]

91. Thanks for the recommendation. I'll certainly do that. I've got to take a swag of

books back to the library within a day or two. If they haven't got it at that branch I'll order it. Well, I hope they've got it in one branch. They're well stocked, overall, I was astonished to find out that they didn't have any of Norman Mailer's books, though.

I'll probably have to wait a while before requesting they buy a particular book as I had a couple of bites of the cherry last year. Anyway, next half-decent win I have on the horses, I'll by it online if necessary. Together with Joe Bageant's Deer Hunting with Jesus. Hope they're still in print by then.

[DailyGrind51]

25. Hey, do you think they want to alienate a potential guest?

[Catherine Vincent]

26. Another example of no liberal media

The media is in denial just like right wing radio listeners out there. Look at this post from another board and then the two responses I got:




What a sick guy!
Blaming all his problems and fears (blacks, gays etc.) on liberals. He's also a hypocrite. If it wasn't for liberals, he wouldn't get his food stamps in the first place. Idiot. Nine out of ten he listens to right wing radio.


Response #1
What's your point? Nine out of ten he also reads the paper, eats fast food, and loves his mother.
The fact is, he's clearly disturbed, and he was probably disturbed long before right wing radio ever came around.


Response #2
Many people in this country blame the other guy for their problems, instead of looking at themselves. Please don't add to it by pointing a finger at anyone but this man. I've seen hate spewed by both sides of the fence, and frankly, I'm sick of it from all sides.
I'm sorry this happened in the wonderful city of Knoxville.

[Marr]

52. That last one is the kind of unthinking drivel that really allows this sort of thing.

I've noticed a tendency among people who don't follow the news or... well, I'll just put it bluntly. Ignorant schmucks.

I've noticed a tendency among ignorant schmucks to always jump directly to the "both sides do it equally and I wish you'd all just stop" angle. It's so lazy and incurious it just frustrates the hell out of me. They're really saying they don't care, and they wish everyone else would be just as passively disinterested and stupid as they are.

[KurtNYC]

28. why would they cover their own manchurian candidate?

your argument seems to assume that the national media some kind of public service. It is anything but. It is a bubble of bullshit that we all live inside of. Owners of the MSM are interested in moving the legislation that they want moved and having as much control over all of us as they reasonably can. They push pretty hard to the corporate right and they demonize the populist left. Every once in a while they produce this kind of manchurian candidate. They aren't the least bit interested in analyzing their effect on society; only in fine tuning it.

[sam sarrha]

30. because O'Lufa Boy will get pissed off and crawl up someones ass in the middle of the night after

his security thugs hunt them down ..

it is revealing, but it is free speach... i bet that F'n Ditto Head had a bible too

[bullwinkle428]

31. The Unabomber Manifesto was absolutely dissected

for weeks on end, analyzing every last little word! This creep...NOTHING.

[DailyGrind51]

63. You are damn on target!

We knew everything, via MSM, about Ted Kaczynzki, within moments of his capture, but hearing bupkiss about this dude, because it involves their "colleagues in media".

[callous taoboy]

83. Not to diminish your point at all, bullwinkle,

but you have to agree that there were years of build up and lots of mystique surrounding the Unabomber, plus he was a crazed genius of sorts. This illiterate whack job came out of nowhere and perhaps over time there will be more of a focus on what made him tick.

[rosesaylavee]

32. ...

[Lyric]

33. What purpose would it serve?

What is the desired end result of such an announcement?

That people keep believing that the books you read, the video games you play, and the music you listen to *do* contribute significantly to your behaviors and choices? That perhaps people shouldn't read these books? That they should maybe even be ...banned? Or regulated? Or the authors prosecuted?

Millions of people have read those books without killing anyone. I think this has far more to do with mental illness and a sadly skewed perception of the world related to that mental illness, than it does those books.

I am reluctant to believe otherwise, because to do so would give credence to the right-wing claim that things like song lyrics, "ungodly" books, and violent video games can have a detrimental effect of the behavior of people. It's a slippery slope that I am not willing to contribute toward sliding down.

[Faryn Balyncd]

37. To expose the hatemongers to the LIGHT OF DAY - Nothing was said about banning or prosecution...

The major point is that the right wing message machine has so intimidated the "mainstream" national media (by means of the false accusation of "liberal bias") that the media bends over backwards to try to disprove the charge.

Consequently, the so-called "liberal" corporate media is reduced to repeating right wing talking points.

In this case, information related to motivation (which in other similar cases has been routinely reported and/or dissected at length) was suppressed.

What would the media have reported if, for example, a right wing church had been attacked by a crackpot and al Queda literature had been found in his home?

Do you think the event would have disappeared from the media within 2 days, without a single mention of what books or literature the murderer had been reading?



That our national "liberal" media has become, in reality, a tool of the right wing propaganda machine (while suppressing relevant information which hurts the right wing, as in this case) is perhaps the largest reason for exposing this incident of double-standard reporting.

Secondly, the hatemongers (& warmongers) need to be exposed for what they are, and confronted.

There are many just reasons to confront hatemongers and warmongers. (Banning books or prosecuting authors for their opinions is NOT what we're talking about. I share your your concern about the slippery slope of censorship, which can come from our side as well as their's, but we are really doomed if our opposition to censorship means we cannot expose the Savage's, O'Reilly's, and Hannity's of the world to daylight - - - - and to the public humiliation & rejection they so justly deserve.)

[Lyric]

38. Well, so long as the goal is to expose and not silence

then we can agree on that point.

They deserve humiliation and shame. We can CERTAINLY agree on that.

[Faryn Balyncd]

41. I think we may agree on more than that . . .

While we must fight aggressively to expose right wing propaganda, we must do so while honoring our fundamental principles --- which include free speech and constitutional protections, a free & open society.

Respect for these fundamental ethical principles is a difference we must maintain from the likes of Savage & O'Reilly.

Concern for the free speech of our opponents is a sign of our strength & ethics.

Thanks.

[HomerRamone]

39. "I am reluctant to believe otherwise,

because to do so would give credence to the right-wing claim that things like song lyrics, 'ungodly' books, and violent video games can have a detrimental effect of the behavior of people."


How can you say that it CAN'T? I don't care if fundamentalists also say so, there is plenty of popular culture that should be, not censored, but condemned for its bad influence...

[sellitman]

78. No one said anything should be censored.

Just brought to light. No reason at all a killer should not have possible motives questioned in the news.

[RaleighNCDUer]

87. See my reply, #85, above. nt

[Wilms]

35. K&R n/t

[TexasObserver]

36. Why WOULD national print, radio and TV media linked to the hate mongers do that?!

Oh, I don't know ... could it be ... SATAN?!

That, and avoiding any moral or legal responsibility for the roles each played in creating and growing the hatred the killer displayed.

[proud patriot]

40. Because RW "christian" terrorists aren't REAL terrorists

because they mean well.

[libnnc]

42. kick

still pissed

[DUlover2909]

44. Even if it's not fair to blame those authors for this man's lunacy, who cares?

The time for playing fair ended a long time ago and we Liberals need to wake up to that fact. The right-wing started this war and we need to finish it by winning. All's fair in war. For example, I wouldn't give one hoot if Senator Larry Craig or Senator Ted Stevens was guilty or not in reality. They have (R) next to their names and they are idiots. I would love to see them found guilty anyway. Do whatever it takes at this point becuase the ends justify the means. The Dem leadership obviously won't pull the trigger on impeachment, so I say we all have to do whatever we can to remove these asses from power in whatever manner presents itself. Remember, they started it, and they'd do the same thing to one of ours in a heartbeat, with no remorse. These neocons need to start fearing us. Right now they just laugh at how naive we continue to be. They snicker about our idealism and applaude our sense of fairness. They know we're the good guys and relish the fact that we continue to play by the rules while they break all the rules in their endeavor to hold on to power, because they know that's all that really matters.

They break the law, and we issue a subpoena. They break the law and we hold a hearing. They break the law and we blog about it. What would happen if WE broke a law and just jailed Bush without a court order or an impeachment vote and just said, "Oh we claim legislative privilege. You can't touch us." Ok so the Supreme Court steps in and says, "You must release Bush." The legislature could just say "No." just like Bush said "No" to enforcing the court's order to regulate greenhouse gasses. This is anarchy. This is what not impeaching the administration brings us to.

[kmkleff]

76. Playing Fair

Is one of the major characteristics that differentiate us from them. Our victories may not come easily, but they do come. (Remember the permanent Republican majority?) While it may be tempting to imitate their tactics and their lies, it will prove fruitless in the end. Our efforts should be devoted to holding the "ideas" of the Right-wing pundits to the light of day. I'd hate to see the Left pursuing the sort of policies that got Gov Seigleman railroaded. It seems there were those who didn't give a hoot about his guilt either.

[LaPera]

48. Not only reading material, but listening to republican talk radio hate all day & watching Fox news

for the same lies over and over, no doubt, as so many mindless robots do, and the republican corporate mouthpieces like Limbaugh count on to feed the gullible sheep's minds with hate, lies, fear & greed!

[redqueen]

49. Official Denial Checklist

1. It's because of ratings.

2. Advertising. It's because of advertising... somehow.

3. Okay, ignorance. They just don't know any better. If they knew the story was around I'm sure they'd cover it. Yeah. That's it.

4. They don't want to reinforce that "liberal media" thing. You can't really blame them. They're always criticized for being liberal now... can you imagine what would happen if they actually reported this?

5. Um... I'm running out.

6. Whatever, it doesn't appear to be at all similar to the what happened under Project Mockingbird or anything like that. Tinfoil hatter. Shut up. Y'all make us look bad!

7. Seriously, stop saying that!

[Indenturedebtor]

59. I'd rec your post if I could. All the evidence points to our Media being a facist propaganda

institution. The denial of this seemingly obvious fact is pretty surprising really. I guess it's just hard to accept that we're that far gone.

[redqueen]

61. Yes... it's nothing new though. Rolling Stone wrote about it in 1977.

Those payoffs to journalists recently? Same thing.

But it's not a big story or anything, so don't expect the media whores to cover it! *sticks fingers back in ears, squeezes eyes tightly shut*

[Indenturedebtor]

67. But Murika is the greatest country on Earth! That couldn't happen here!

We have freedom!

[redqueen]

86. I wonder why it's so hard for people to believe that it has happened

before, and it is happening still.

[Fearless]

51. Because his reading list IS the "national media".

[slackmaster]

54. I think that's exactly right

[psychopomp]

56. We've met the enemy, quoth Pogo...

(OT...your sig must be from the book, because that line is not in the movie.)

[BrklynLiberal]

73. Excellent point....

[Fearless]

84. Yes, and the book ends differently as well.

The movie omits chapter 21.

[AlbertCat]

53. Helter Skelter!

Does this mean that we will now finally stop blaming gun nuts and other crazies actions on rock & roll?

[K Gardner]

58. K&R

[samsingh]

64. the msm is criminally or morally responsible for his actions

[whistle]

65. Were these books found in the killer's bathroom?

[kegler14]

66. FR was full of paranoia

about how the national media would turn this into a firestorm. Instead, near silence.

[redqueen]

68. And they STILL won't admit that there IS NO liberal media.

Denial is far easier than admitting to yourself that you've been played for a fool by Neocon Straussians who consider you no better than sheep to be herded & sheared.

[Alter Ego]

69. Because he wasn't reading Moore, Chomsky, or Zinn.

You can bet the mediawhores would be screaming from the rooftops that the murderer was "A MILITANT LEFTIST!"

[Baby Snooks]

70. Why?

The reason is simple. The media fears they would become the next target of the crackpots and malcontents and mentally deranged.

But don't forget that the media makes a fortune off the rabidness of these "commentators" and so they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. Journalism is no longer about journalism. It's about profit.

So it's a two-edge sword. Unfortunately both sides have served to literally decapitate the public interest.

[newtothegame]

71. MSM=EVIL n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

72. The RW "pundits" that inspired his violence, and the violence of many before him

should be indicted along with him. I think there must be some legal category for those who inspire violence.
What comes to mind are those that urged their followers to assassinate any physician that performed abortions. They actually had a website with pictures and addresses, set up like a WANTED list.

If people are killed during a riot that results from someone yelling out "FIRE" when there is none, shouldn't that person be held responsible for the deaths that resulted?

[fascisthunter]

75. yes

[AntiFascist]

74. KO should have a field day with this...

the Reich Wing is only good for stirring up acts of terrorism.

[Puzzler]

77. What would the MSM have said if the guy had a copy of Obama's "The Audacity of Hope" lying around?

Three guesses?

[Rocknrule]

80. Because only videogames or left-wing books are ever responsible for anything bad

[muriel_volestrangler]

90. Hmm - would Stephen Colbert use that?

Or The Daily Show? Seems like they could point that out.