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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:37 AM
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Bobby Jindal's Popularity
I had at first thought about posting this in the Louisiana Forum since was was going to ask if Bobby Jindal was really that popular in Louisiana, but since I also wanted to make a comment on the media I decided to post it in general discussion. First, it seems that the media wants John McCain to pick Bobby Jindal as his running mate more than anyone else. Even though Jindal announced yesterday that he would not accept the VP slot David Gregory, this morning on the Today Show, point to Jindal was one of the top candidates for the position and claims that Jindal was both popular and charismatic? I have heard other media reports that claim Jindal is very popular in Louisiana. So, is Bobby Jindal really popular in Louisiana?
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:40 AM
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1. Yeah, he is...
But he did some damage to his reputation with the debacle over the legislature salaries.

As for him saying that he wouldn't accept the VP slot... Probably a complete and utter lie.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:57 AM
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2. If McCain picked Jindal, he'd lose the racist vote
And the repukes can't win without the racist voters.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:31 AM
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5. I feel pretty certain that's why he lost to Landrieu when he ran for senate...
The freepers had to pick between a white, democratic woman and an Indian man.

Plus, the run-off was held on one of the opening weekends for hunting season- Lots of freepers were in the woods and couldn't be bothered with voting.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:43 AM
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8. He didn't run against Landrieu
He ran against Kathleen Blanco for Governor, who at the time was a much better politician and campaigner then piyush.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:52 AM
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9. You're right....
I obviously am not awake yet. :hi:

but other than the name, the rest of what I said holds true. I had a number of co-workers and neighbors who were vocally lamenting at being forced to choose between "an injun and a broad." (their words- not mine).
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:59 AM
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12. Remember
who ran against Mary in 02?? Suzanne Haik Terrell. A worse sac of crap then piyush.

Anti-union ads are running non-stop on New Orleans against Mary Landrieu. No doubt heavily financed by those with values and very slickly produced.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:08 AM
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16. Oh gawd....
I remember Terrell... Thankfully, she has mostly faded away.

Yeah, those anti-union ads are running in Baton Rouge, too. I'm by no means a huge fan of Landrieu (Just the name is suspect), and now she's up against John Kennedy (who I am related to in a roundabout way). I'm going to have to get drunk and play eenie, meenie, miney, moe on that one....
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:11 AM
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18. Over here in Mississippi
we have two Senate Races this year. Cochran's regular turn and a special election to fill lott's seat. That lott seat might just go (D) this time around. Right now the race is a tossup.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:16 AM
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21. I guess we'll have to see how well Barbour can whip up a frenzy....
He's a big ol' lying sack of carp from WAY back....
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:18 AM
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22. He's got his Pee-pee in the ringer right now
He pardoned a convicted murderer who had served 19 years in prison and was a trustee at the Governor's Mansion. That didn't go over very well with the populace.

And we have enjoyed Decadence in the past but I have gotten to the age (and laziness) that I just can't party like I used to. We are hardly ever out after the sun goes down.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:21 AM
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23. I just go and people-watch during the day.
If I go out at night, I'm usually home or back at the hotel by midnight.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:01 AM
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3. pleeze oh pleeze Grampy, pick Bobby!
pleeeeeeeze! Landslide my ass, it'll be a tsunami!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:28 AM
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4. This is the guy who does Exorcisms?
And wants to teach Creationism in Louisiana schools? And is so far Right his little wiener is permanently pointed right because he has disabled it in the name of Marriage sanctity?

That guy?


Boy would that be fun having him campaign with gramps.


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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:06 AM
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14. Actually
he'd give the public schools and all resulting revenues to the Catholic Church if he thought he could get away with it. Short of that he wants religious doctrine forced on public schools in the guize of real science. He also wants openness in all of government but vetoed a bill that would have done exactly that relative to the governor's office. He's a classic sac of shit republican with a pretty smile who can't answer a direct question with a direct answer if his children's lives depended on it. Why is he popular? I'll be ugly and say its a direct reflection on the ignorance in the Bayou State. A state I dearly love.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:13 AM
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20. For whatever reason....
Many people honestly and truly believe that he's some kind of saint- completely out of the realm of possibility that he could EVER do something corrupt or even unethical. I don't have the slightest idea as to why he is up on such a high pedastal. But I DO know this... One mis-step, and you fall off of a pedastal. He came close with the legislative raise issue. Sooner or later, he'll screw up again.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:25 AM
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24. I don't understand it either
I'm not the brightest light bulb but I have read jindal like a cliff's note version for years. Just like bush. People love him and he is an evil bastard and that fact is very easily known. So sad that all some people want to hear is "I have christian conservative family values" and that seals the vote deal (for no apparent reason.)
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 11:39 AM
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32. The weird thing is Catholic schools teach evolution
I went to Catholic schools from grades 1-12, and they taught evolution in my science classes. The Catholic Church has no objection teaching Darwin as science. They kept the God/Creation side of things in the religion classes, as it should be.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:37 AM
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6. Pandering Bobby Jindal
whose real name is Piyush, gave up his heritage for what? Pandering to racists. IMO, that's too high a price to be a republican.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:41 AM
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7. piyush is a snake in the grass lying sack of caca
I think his "popularity" is a direct reflection of the "values voters" in Louisiana but I think more importantly because he changed his first name. He also did a fantastic job of pissing off damned near every member of the LA congress this past session and they got the daggers out for him for the next session. His staff is comprised of incompetent pukes with very large chips on the their shoulders.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:54 AM
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10. He changed his name as a kid.
I went to High School with him and he always went by Bobby.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:57 AM
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11. I'm a skeptical sumbitch
I strongly believe that piyush's political plans were made long before adulthood.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:05 AM
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13. Very possible...
I didn't know him all that well, personally- it was a big school, and he wasn't in my graduating class or my circle of friends. I had one class with him (I think it was calculus).

What I DO remember are the daily morning announcements... "Bobby Jindal won this... Bobby Jindal did that... Bobby Jindal has been nominated to this... Bobby Jindal was honored with that..." Most of the students were of the opinion "OK- We get it; Bobby Jindal is Mr. Perfect Know-It-All... :eyes: Just shut up about Bobby Jindal already!!!!"
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:07 AM
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15. We are looking forward
to going to the Big Easy next weekend to the Satchmo Fest at the Old Mint. Its always a great time with incredible food. Can you believe it? Great Music and great food in NOLA.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:09 AM
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17. Sounds like a good time....
I probably won't be down there again until Labor Day weekend...
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:33 AM
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25. I can't believe you are missing the obvious
The (primary) reason he is popular is he has charisma.

The first time I saw him, the first thing I thought was Charisma.

In many respects, that matters more than policy, etc.

He APPEARS likable. Whether he IS - I have no idea. But that's not really relevant in politics.

You are looking at him like a "high information voter". Most don't.

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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:43 AM
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26. I don't really think he has that much charisma....
Huckabee? Absolutely- there is something very "down home" about his delivery (despite the fact that I know that he has a 666 tattoo somewhere on his body). But I just don't see that in Jindal- perhaps because I sort-of know him. To me, he seems more aloof and snotty than anything.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:50 AM
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27. I think there's a couple of reasons why it works
1) he's good looking, but not "pretty" or TOO good looking, which can be a negative for a male candidate. A kennedy type of handsomeness will do better than an edwards' version for instance. The former is more rugged, and has more perceived gravitas. It's hard to take a pretty guy seriously, whereas a more rugged handsomeness doesn't have that problem. It also makes guys like him more. That's also why alec baldwin and harrison ford were better as Jack Reed in the Clancy movies than Affleck. Affleck is too pretty. People don't want their action hero's to be too good looking, in the pretty sense. And presidents are ultimately action heros, in the low information voters eyes.
2) he's a decent speaker.
3) the camera likes him

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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:51 AM
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29. Perhaps....
I guess familiarity breeds contempt in my case... :hi:
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:55 AM
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31. Well yes.
You can't see him with "fresh eyes" like another person can.

A guy isn't going to (hopefully lol) look at his sister the same way as another guy either.

It's kind of like when you are in a band and recording a song. It is very difficult to hear it with "new ears" because you have so much emotionally invested in it, and have heard it so many times. I think this is why so many recording artists are surprised at the songs that become huge hits. It's difficult to hear something with fresh ears that you have heard 100 times.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:02 PM
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35. no charisma, when i met him i thought "dweeb"
the guy is a classic nerd in my view, charisma that's a hell of a stretch!
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:11 PM
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36. I think the electoral
results are to some extent based on charisma, and that's the impression I get from watching him on teevee.

Is charisma subjective?

yes.

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:50 AM
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28. He's claimed he chose his name
from the character on The Brady Bunch.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:53 AM
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30. Yeah, I've heard that....
good role model, dude!

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:48 PM
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33. A good cover story
The guys a conniver, says he's not a career politician and he's been in politics his whole life and he knew (even way back when he changed his name) that whitey in Louisiana just wouldn't vote for a piyush. He's a god sent hero to the right wing, limbaugh calls him the next reagan. How worse of an endorsement would a human being need?
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:11 AM
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19. I wish john would pick him.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:59 PM
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34. no he is actually most unpopular, has never won an office except running un-opposed
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 01:00 PM by pitohui
look at jindal's record, when he was running aga. a real opponent for governor, he lost, he finally got the office when he was running essentially un-opposed -- the democratic candidates blanco who previously defeated him refused to run after all the smears she had endured and the other serious candidate john breaux did not qualify

same for his congressional seat, he ran un=opposed in a district that always gives the office to GOP (the old bob livingston seat)

in the tradition of other GOP governors he is a remarkable do-nothing so far

in his first week in office he was cited for ethics violations

more recently the legislature voted itself a TRIPLE pay raise and jindal proposed to let it go through -- until the people of louisiana rose up and announced that there would be a recall petition if he did not veto the exorbitant pay raise

the man has a hell of a machine but he is NOT in the least bit "popular" if by "popular" you mean that anyone likes or votes for him other than his machine

he is the very picture of the word "useless" and would make the perfect running mate for john mccain

when reading about jindal and how popular he is, it's a good idea to remember that the press and mass media are owned by the republicans

this dude ain't even remotely popular, he's a dweeb with some powerful backers
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