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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:06 PM
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Of all the crimes bush & cheney have gotten away with, which galls you the most?
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 02:56 PM by Philosoraptor
The real crime to me is the fact that they've gotten away with EVERYTHING.

What does it say about Americans that they've allowed all these criminals to get away with all they have?

What does it say about our society?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:07 PM
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1. torture & war crimes
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:08 PM
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2. Their fucking existence!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:08 PM
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3. Stealing 2000
That's where our nation's downfall began.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:39 PM
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23. agreed, after that
they figured they could get away w/ anything, and the public wouldn't do a damn thing, or if they did, it could be ignored.


dp
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:54 PM
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31. My thoughts exactly
They knew that nothing and no one would stop them after that.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:21 AM
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38. yep, election fraud was my first thought too.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:19 PM
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45. Junta Day 2000.12.12 = Stealing America
They stole the Executive Branch of the US Government.
Nothing else compares to the first crime in magnitude,
and all else follows on the first crime.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:20 PM
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46. Without the stolen 2000 election, there would have been no follow-up crimes
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:03 PM
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51. This. n/t
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:09 PM
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4. All of them.
eom
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:09 PM
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5. 9/11
And Patriot act

We know Cheney and CIA had hand in 9/11

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:10 PM
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8. My vote too.
If they weren't actually complicit, I believe they knew about it and let it happen so they could scare the nation into submission. It worked too.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:11 PM
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11. They've exploited the hell out of it, & conquered America with it.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:54 PM
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49. And that's why it happened IMHO! nt
:hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:09 PM
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6. The fact that the Supremes put them there to begin with!
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:09 PM
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7. Any info. they may have had before 9/11.
I'm not too much of a conspiracy theorist, but I suspect there were behind the scenes shenanigans both prior to and after 9/11.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:10 PM
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9. 9/11
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:11 PM
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10. this is hard to say....
there are so many crimes to choose from but I guess the one that has always gotten to me the most are the lies of Iraq/WMD to the congress, the people of the USA and the world, leading up to the illegal war. This has caused so many deaths and permanent injuries and the thought that Bush is getting away with it makes we want to scream!!! One can only imagine the uproar from congress and the media if Bill Clinton did such a thing. Bush does it and the media laughs at Bush's "no WMD here" jokes.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:11 PM
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12. Katrina
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:12 PM
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13. TORTURE, without a doubt.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:13 PM
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14. More than the crimes they committed, what galls me the most...........
is that so many in Washington, that swore to uphold the constitution, apparently don't give a damn.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:20 PM
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20. So ......
...... Democrats worse than Bush?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:55 PM
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32. I wouldn't go that far. Jesus, everyone is so God Damn sensitive.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:14 PM
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15. Claiming executive privelege on EVERYTHING! THAT on thing has
prevented almost everything to keep happening!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:15 PM
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16. All of them.
I cannot pick just one.

From stealing the election in 2000, to lying to start a war, to outing a covert CIA agent, to spying on us and lying about it, to the waste of taxpayer dollars, you name it. They are all egregious abuses of authority, and if we had a Congress that did its job, Bush and Cheney and their ilk would be gone right now.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:17 PM
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17. They're not the problem
Actually, none of their crimes bother me in the way the question is looking for. They bother me in the same way the crimes of Richard Speck or Charles Manson bother me.

What REALLY bothers me is the mass of Americans who continue to support them. THEY are the ones I hold responsible for our current situation, as without them, the neocons would be as fringe, and as influential, as, say, Technocracy or the Libertarians.

In particular, the ones still driving cars, the ones still working for global corporations, the ones who still consume mass media, the ones agitating for more cheap plastic stuff from China, the businessmen agitating for more corporate control - ESPECIALLY the small business people who think that corporations are on their side and people aren't...

What matters at this point isn't really what anyone SAYS, it's what they spend the hours of their days doing, and what larger tasks and goals they are working for, whether they understand and share them or not.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:56 PM
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33. That's what is so galling about T. Boone Pickens..
after the MILLIONS he spent getting shlubya and Dick elected, now he has the BALLS to start preaching to us about renewable energy. Where was he when President Jimmy Carter was advocating this? He was making BILLIONS off oil contracts, that's where.

FUCK HIM!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:18 PM
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18. The war in Iraq and everything that goes with it. n/t
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:18 PM
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19. 1.2 innocent civilians DEAD. All else pales.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:42 PM
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25. Agreed. I never thought I'd live to see it again after Vietnam.
But there was already a war in Vietnam. There wasn't in Iraq. So in a way this is even worse.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:44 PM
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27. Mentioning the million murdered innocents gets you the 1000 yard stare
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:14 AM
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36. My reply to the naysayers......
Do you believe that Saddam was responsible for 400,000 deaths and was it one of the reasons for taking him out? They invariably answer yes to this question. Then I say, "the same folks who calculated this 400K number has calculated that 1.2 million people have been killed in Iraq." You cant believe one set of numbers and NOT accept the second set.

WE are responsible for KILLING 1.2 million people in Iraq. Anytime anyone tells you about the fantastic success in Iraq, remind them about the blood on their hands.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:24 PM
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21. The fact that we have so many to choose from
aches me.

A list of disgusting horrors. The entire outfit needs to rot in prison or Hell.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:32 PM
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22. Torture and sometimes death without trial or due process
is one of the heinous ones but I would say the end of Constitutional rule in itself and crimes against peace from which all the things deemed war crimes by many fall under.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:40 PM
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24. that we let them get away with everything
sorry I had to say it.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:44 PM
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26. Their invasions and occupations, accompanied by rendition and torture. If they were
the heads of any other country in the world, they would be charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:45 PM
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28. Yet, there they still are, in our white house.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:20 AM
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37. and in another country they would be pushed out by their citizens.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:49 PM
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29. Robbing money from the taxpayers
and giving it away to their uber-rich cronies. Spending money we don't have yet, and diverting it to their exceedingly wealthy elite friends.

Republicans are the biggest money wasters history has ever seen.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:54 PM
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30. Stealing the 2000 election..
if they hadn't done that, all of this would be moot.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:46 PM
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:17 PM
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:21 AM
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39. Stealing elections. They couldn't have done jack shit if they hadn't stolen the elections.
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 09:21 AM by helderheid
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:21 AM
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40. As you say ... everything.
What upsets me most is that they have gotten away with wreaking havoc. And continue to do so.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:00 PM
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:18 PM
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42. I'd have to say stealing presidential elections
everything else is just fruit from the rotten tree

I've always accepted repukes as my prez / vice prez up until these two - I've never accepted them
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:43 PM
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43. Using war as a profit-making enterprise and scarificing innocent lives for their financial gain.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:56 PM
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44. the 2000 theft of democracy
that alone merits a lifetime in hell for those that participated in it.
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:24 PM
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47. the democratic parties response
It'd be one thing if there was an opposition that just didn't have the power in congress to punish them. The fact that the opposition has taken impeachment off the table is the most disturbing part. There will always be criminals, we need competent people in the right places to stop them.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:53 PM
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48. September 11th, 2001! nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:54 PM
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50. 1 - torture. 2 - Katrina.
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:47 PM
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52. They stole my vote (twice).
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:50 PM
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53. Iraq
We're going to be dealing with the fallout of that crime for the next 100 years.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:56 PM
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54. The fact that my taxes are still paying for their privileged life style. n/t
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 05:45 AM
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