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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:21 PM
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** 88 mpg hwy/ 62 mpg city / 76 mpg combined !! ** New Ford Fiesta ECOnetic on Sale by end of Year!




http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/07/23/british-motor-s... /

Ok it's diesel and currently only available in the UK but hey, it's better than a poke in the eye.

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:27 PM
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1. K&R I like the way this one looks. Too, bad its a ford.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:44 PM
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6. Exactly my first reaction n/t
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:00 PM
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10. Mine too
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:08 PM
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12. Ford already makes a good little car: the Focus. German engineering.
Everything else they make is crap, IMHO. But Focus owners love them.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:49 PM
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15. Not all Focus owners
Friend of mine "leased" a Focus believe it or not, (bad credit)


Had three new tranies put in it by 35,000 miles
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:51 PM
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16. Yeah, but what sort of driving style does he have?
You can grind up a tranny PDQ if you don't drive right.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:03 PM
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18. He drives like an old lady, slow
And has an auto in it...

car is a joke...I drove it a couple times when he needed to use my truck and was not impressed. Actually liked my 1987 Suziki Swift much better..
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peanut2010 Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:25 PM
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21. My wife`s Focus has 91,000 miles
only needed oil changes and tires and one spark plug wire,original brakes.34 M.P.G. on highway 27 city.Car rides and drives really well for a small car.If Ford ever brings a diesel here I will buy one for myself.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:59 PM
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17. What alternate universe do you live in, where the focus is a good car?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:30 PM
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32. I own a Focus...
100,000 and no problems yet.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:41 PM
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26. like all American car companies, sometimes they buy reliable cars from Japan and slap their badge on
them.

I once got a Ford Courier pickup because I thought that was the case, but it turned out Mazda only made the body and Ford made the guts, so it was still a piece of shit.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:12 PM
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30. The only ford that my family owned that was worth a shit, was
1957 truck. Dad bought it before I was born. We sold it in 1975. It ran for another 10 years after we sold it. It was known as old yeller. lol
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 06:19 PM
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28. I know it's late but...
mine too. It is way too bad it's a Ford. I hate their cars!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:28 PM
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2. Nifty little puppy. nt
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:33 PM
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3. It still uses gas?
I don't know if I'd fork over car payments for that.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:42 PM
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5. It's a Ford,
it has to use gas or it won't be able to burst into flames.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:45 PM
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7. diesel, not gas
no bursting into flames.

Impressive little thing - wish they'd bring 'em to the US market.

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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:01 PM
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11. It won't burst into flames - we'll wait a few minutes for it to glow nice and hot
Looks really cool. I'd love to get one here, too.

mikey_the_rat
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:37 PM
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4. Is this the menage a trois mobile?
:D

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JesterCS Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:45 PM
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8. it is coming out in the US
i read an article in a magazine that it would be next year. ( 09 )
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:58 PM
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9. The 1.6 TDCi a very efficient engine
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 01:59 PM by Apollo11
TDCi stands for Turbo Diesel Common-rail injection.

The 1.6 TDCi (90ps = 89hp) is already being used in the following cars on the European market:

Ford Fiesta
Ford Fusion (NOT the north American Fusion)
Ford Focus (also available as ECOnetic version)
Ford C-Max
Citroen C3
Citroen C4
Peugeot 307
Mazda 3
Suzuki SX4 (2WD)

Even though it only has 89hp it feels more powerful because as a diesel engine it can deliver a lot of torque, which is what you need to accelerate.

What is new about the Fiesta ECOnetic is that it is smaller and lighter than the cars listed above. I guess they also tweaked the engine to further improve the fuel efficiency.

For more about this engine see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_DLD_engine
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:33 PM
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13. C'mon Detroit! Bring that little puppy over here!
Quit selling your best designs overseas and giving your own damn countrymen the leftovers!!!!! I swear Ford and GM would be in much better shape if they'd do this...
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:36 PM
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14. If they did bring it over here
No doubt they'd cut the mpg in half.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:05 PM
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24. there was a post about Ford retooling to build its Euro cars here.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:03 PM
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19. Be cautious of English "MPG" ratings; they're stated in "Imperial Gallons" and...
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 03:08 PM by Tesha
an "Imperial Gallon" is about 20% bigger than an
American Gallon so cars, naturally, get 20% more
miles per Imperial Gallon.

1 Imperial Gallon = 4.54609 Litres
1 American Gallon = 3.785411784 Litres

1 Imperial Gallon = 1.200095 American Gallons

Take that stated English MPG and multiply it by
5/6 (0.833) to get the American MPG (assuming all
else remains the same).

Tesha
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:50 PM
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22. excellent point...forgot about that
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 03:50 PM by elehhhhna
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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:35 PM
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25. Actually the article says specifically that it is "US" gallons....
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:20 PM
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31. It's 63.5 US mpg for combined; the thread title figures are in imperial gallons
And, comparing a few equivalent cars available in both places, such as the Mini or Honda Civic, these 2 sites seem to show that the EU urban figure (when you allow for the 1.2 conversion factor), is roughly equivalent to the US combined mpg figure:

http://www.eta.co.uk/car_buyers_guide
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byclass.htm

So the diesel Fiesta will get about 51 US mpg, for the combined measurement. Still significantly better than the Yaris, Fit etc. scores on that EPA page.

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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:07 PM
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20. BMW to export 500 electric MINI Coopers to California
MUNICH -- BMW plans to export nearly 500 electric versions of its Mini car to California, company sources said.

The electric Minis are being built at the Mini factory in Oxford, England, without engines, gearboxes or fuel tanks, then shipped to Munich, Germany, where they are being fitted with electric powertrains.

"This step will allow the BMW Group to gain an initial knowledge of how mobility can be achieved efficiently using purely electrically powered vehicles. Our task here is to combine the ultimate driving experience with an efficient electrified drive with practically no emissions", underlined Dr. Norbert Reithofer, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG.

BMW sources told Automotive News Europe that 490 of the Minis will be leased to selected customers in California and 10 will be used as show cars.


http://www.autonews.com/article/20080709/COPY01/2895089...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:51 PM
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23. Just...stop it. No one likes a tease...well, sometimes, hey that's besides the point.
quit posting these drool worthy cars that aren't available here. It's depressing!!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:48 PM
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27. I have a Focus and with 82k it has needed nothing except
tires and oil changes. I would buy another one in a new york minute.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:06 PM
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29. K&R!
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