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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:20 AM
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Help with this right wing e-mail
Has anyone seen this e-mail. It is so thoroughly full of bullshit, I had to open up the windows to get the stench out. I am appealing to my brothers and sisters here at DU to debunk this crap. I can't do it alone. Any help would be most appreciated. Peace. Max.Subject: Are We Stupid or What?

It makes you wonder .......

This email comes in three parts....Make sure you read all three parts!

Part 1
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following:

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $4.10 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
7) Food prices skyrocketing over 30% in 1 year.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law - not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.
Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama
Part 2:
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.HTML <http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.HTML >

Taxes under CLINTON-1999 Taxes under BUSH-2008
Single earning: Single earning:
30K - taxed- $ 8,400 30K - taxed $ 4,500
50K - taxed $ 14,000 50K - taxed $ 12,500
75K - taxed $ 23,250 75K - taxed $ 18,750
Married earning: Married earning:
60K - taxed $ 16,800 60K - taxed $ 9,000
75K - taxed $ 21,000 75K - taxed $ 18,750
125K - taxed $ 38,750 125K ? taxed $ 31,250

Barack Obama promises to return to the higher tax rates if elected. It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever.

If elected, Barack Obama has already promised that he will repeal the Bush tax cuts, and amazingly, a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.

PART 3:
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this: Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. Read on...

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77 <http://tinyurl.com/zob77 >
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html <http://wwwcis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html >

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html <http://wwwcis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html >
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HT... <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HT... >
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at: http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.... <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... >
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... >
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... >
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html <http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html >
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.h... >
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.h... <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.h... >
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and
marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl..com/t9sht <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht >
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.... <http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.... >
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm <http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm >
14. "The Da?k ? Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml >
The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
Are we THAT stupid?
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you continue to forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. until restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:26 AM
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1. Just delete it.
Simple and effective.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:28 AM
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5. I will
A friend wants to throw it back in his father in laws face. I told him the same thing.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:30 AM
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7. but that allows the rumors to spread when they go unchallenged
and, when they don't get challenged, they take on at least a grain of truth.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:34 AM
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11. Great point
I can't believe the kool-aid drinkers are still moving the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:35 AM
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14. If you want to fall into the obvious trap, that's your business
That kind of email is designed to waste your time by responding to it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:42 AM
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16. It does make a difference, though
After 9/11, there were a ton of similar emails going around - how Clinton was offered bin Laden's head on a platter, but turned it down; and also how disgraced Oliver North testified to Congress that his family was threatened by Osama bin Laden.

But, when I got the one on North saying his family was threatened by Osama, I responded by saying that I watched North testify live almost in its entirety and I know it was Abu Nidal that he said had threatened his family, and not Osama bin Laden. I actually got a few responses back saying that they didn't know that, or thanking me for the information.

I didn't hear that one again after that.

I also did similar on the one about the woman who had the boyfriend from Afghanistan who mysteriously disappeared a day or two before 9/11, but also warned his girlfriend to stay out of shopping malls on whatever day... by pointing out that the hijackers were Saudi or Egyptian.

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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:12 AM
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17. Indeed, particularly with that segment of the population
that won't bother verifying what they've received.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:46 PM
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23. People are going to believe it no matter how many times you challenge it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:02 PM
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24. some people will, yes, but not all
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 01:03 PM by NewJeffCT
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:27 AM
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2. Why post something 'so thoroughly full of bullshit'? Just write
back, Reply All, how you hate xenophobic assholes. Done!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:28 AM
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It's perfectly obvious why DUers post such things under the heading of "help".
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:33 AM
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10. Drives me nuts. nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:22 AM
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18. Doesn't bother me at all
We need to know how the right is thinking so we can outsmart them.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:36 AM
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20. We 'know' the venom the right is spewing, and e-mailing. I don't
need to read every single e-mail to figure it out. When I get one, I check snopes and usually respond with a link. In most cases, I'll forward to Obama's site, Fight The Smears. I think reposting this crap doesn't help anyone except the person who wants the message spread.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:43 AM
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21. I posted one just the other day
But hopefully you know I am not wanting to spread the message. LOL
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:37 AM
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15. Help! My right wing brother's uncle's cousin says that Obama beheads people on the weekends.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 10:38 AM by gatorboy
Is it true??? Help!!!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:25 AM
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19. Yep. They need help, alright, just not the kind they claim to be asking for....
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:27 AM
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3. I have received this e-mail more times than I can count.
Delete button is real handy.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:28 AM
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4. Been addressed
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:29 AM
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6. Thank you
I figured it had been addressed. I appreciate the link.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:32 AM
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8. Thanks to all
I appreciate the help.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:33 AM
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9. Direct link to the Snopes debunking here
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:34 AM
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12. Most Obstructionist Senate Ever
The GOP in the Senate have made this the most obstrutionist Senate in History mounting scores of filibusters and keeping the Democratic Congress from advancing their agenda. Add on top of that that Bush didn't use any vetos against the Republican Congress until the middle of 2006 (Stem cells) and the remaining 11 vetoshave been after the Democratic Congress was installed in 2006.
To blame the woes of the nation on a Democratic Congress-- when the Republicans are pulling out the stops to obstruct it, is disingenuous. When we have a Democratic President and a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, you may see more action from the legislature.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:34 AM
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13. Have they never heard of the veto?
:rofl: "The President has to work with what congress hands him."

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:48 AM
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22. What bills did the Democratic Congress
pass that the President signed into law are responsible for any of this?

Some of this policies were in effect when the GOP controlled everything. If they didn't like them, then why didn't they do something about them when they had the chance?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:05 PM
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25. Simple reply :"yes, you are stupid" and provide link to snopes with recommendation they check there
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 01:06 PM by uppityperson
before forwarding such crap.
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