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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:27 AM
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***** Official HOUSE JUDICIARY hearing = MUKASEY, deceptive election practices *****
Hearing just started and Conyers is discussing elections

WEBCAST link: http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:29 AM
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1. CONYER: Key members of Bush Admin fail to appear because DoJ fails
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 09:30 AM by L. Coyote
Conyers talking about Rove failing to appear, failures of DoJ to produce documents, .....

AG has failed to appoint a single independent prosecutor....
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:37 AM
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2. Conyers introducing Mukasey now, Mukasey opening statement
after "absolutely not" allowing a brief colloquey by an R.

"There have been moments of disagreement" Mukasey = not evidence of broken system, evidence of genius of the system LOL
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:45 AM
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3. Rep. Jerry Nalder has the first set of questions. Torture!!
Nadler: Have you or anyone in the Dept. investigated interrogations before the Yoo memo?

Mukasey: I do not know!!

Nadler: Why can't we get the unclassified opinions?

Mukasey: Deliberative privilege.

Nadler: Are you asserting a new privilege?

Mukasey: One of the kinds of privilege we have.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:46 AM
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4. no webcast link for today
:shrug:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:48 AM
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5. Dated 7/23 Watch now four or 5th down the list.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:10 AM
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15. Who the hell uses real media any more?
Grrr..

That's what McCain would stream in.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:20 AM
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16.  I do all the time. It is a common streaming format.
It is also a proprietary file format, so they have had an advantage in making users use their viewer.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:30 AM
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18. Well, it was common in 1995.
Not so much today. It's a horrible and obsolete product and format.

They don't make a player for my OS (XP64), but even if they did it would just be annoying ad-ware.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:41 AM
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20. which link is that?
mine keeps loading in Quicktime (which i do not have the latest plugin for)...

:(

Anyone got an audio link?

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:53 AM
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23. Link is in the OP.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM
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33. for some reason
that link doesn't work for me. But i found a different one through Emptywheel that's working fine.

Break now...


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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:50 AM
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9. Im watching it NOW.
07/23/2008
WatchWebCast
Full Committee
10:15 A.M. in 2141 Rayburn House Office Building
Hearing on: Oversight of the U.S. Department of Justice
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:48 AM
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6. just for the record...
Mukasey: "Are you going to place me under oath or something?"

Conyers: "No that won't be necessary."



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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:56 AM
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10. IMHO, that gives Mukasey
the green light to lie with impunity. Serious oversight, I don't think so.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:03 AM
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13. Not so. Lying to Congress is a felony.
There is never a need to swear in a witness to Congress. It is more a formality and allows prosecution for perjury instead of lying to Congress.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:57 AM
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11. Incredible...
why?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:00 AM
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12. What the fuck?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:04 AM
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14. I know
Conyers just waved it off. Not necessary.

They aren't asking him any serious questions so far.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:48 AM
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7. rec... 1?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:48 AM
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8. What is DoJ doing to prevent purges of legitimate voters?
Mukasey: Provisional ballots!

Mukasey: I don't know that that in fact happened!! LOL.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:21 AM
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17. thanks for headsup and thread.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:33 AM
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19. Rep. Jackson Lee: Civil Rights, Civil Liberties, ICE Raids
broken watch list process
delays in citizenship applications



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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:46 AM
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21. Rep. Maxine Waters: Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Discrimination Complaints
Discrimination complaints in your own department?
How many pending? Initiatives?

Less than 5% African-American FBI agents?

Mukasey: "I don't know"
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:52 AM
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22. Illegal alien voters. Mukasey: Proper IDs needed to vote.
The Rs are parading out their ruse again!!

Because Dems turned out in higher numbers in Indiana, this proves voter ID is a good idea ad gives legal vters enouh confdence to vote.

Mukasey: You do not cut down voter numbers with voter ID laws!! :rofl: THAT IS A LIE!!!!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:57 AM
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24. Rep. Wexler: How Admin effectively nullified Congress, subpoenas..
"unprecedented abuse of exective privilege"

FBI interviews related to Plame leak classified as White House business by DoJ.

Wexler: "Does your Justice Dept. consider all FBI investigators to be part of the White House?"

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:59 AM
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25. nevermind - question answered in last post :)
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 11:00 AM by JoeIsOneOfUs
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:01 AM
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26. Mukasey: Executive Privilege is "discussions generally" in the Executive
to provide information to the President.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:02 AM
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27. i.e., everything?!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:09 AM
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28. I like this woman who's asking ?s now - Rove has to COME and claim privilege on each ?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:12 AM
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30. Sanchez is cutting him off repeatedly to ask her questions.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM
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34. she may as well get the ?s out for the record, because he's not giving real answers
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:11 AM
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29. Rep. Sanchez: Siegelman? "Do you support Karl Rove's..."
claim of Executive Privilege.

Mukasey: "Don't know that" re case law that subpoenaed person must appear.

Sanchez: How can executive privilege be claimed by Rove regarding conversations with persons in Alabama?

No-bid contract to Ashcroft????
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:13 AM
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31. Linda Sanchez rocks!
This lady should be running the hearing. Give her more time!

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:14 AM
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32. can someone give me the brief version of Mukasey's background
military? law? govmt?

Listening to a few of these answers, I'm agreeing with Biden's complaint before Senate Judiciary that Mukasey never answers ?s straight.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:20 AM
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35. Reagan judge rises to top of US Court in NYC, involved in early anti-terror
rulings, like approving use of evidence obtained by torture.
Lawyers in the So NY USA offices also moved to DC to the White House legal staff when they needed more attorneys for Dem oversight.
So NY is the USA office that handles lots of SEC matters, lots of corporate crime, things like letting Rs off easy.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:22 AM
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36. very helpful, thanks.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:25 AM
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37. Just saw this thread. They are in recess, are they coming back soon?
Anybody know? I want to know if I have enough time to go grab lunch.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:30 AM
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39. just started up again.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:51 AM
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42. Thanks, it came back up just as I posted this
Issa was up so I went out and got lunch. LOL
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:29 AM
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38. Issssssssssssssa is up
sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:44 AM
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40. Who's the Maine-ah who's asking ?s
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:47 AM
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41. nevermind, on to the next one
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:13 PM
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43. Another recess now.
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