Funny! Grassley (R-IA) investigates televangelists, then gets dumped from GOP delegation!

[npincus]

See what happens to Repubs when they TRY to do their job? :rofl:

Grassley attempts to investigate the slippery con-men who pry $$$ from poor granny's wallet under the guise of supporting "the ministry"! What is the "ministry" exactly? Ministry of Lamborghini? Chanel? Harry Winston? Doesn't G-d want his tee vee messengers to live like Donald Trump on your dime? What's wrong with that? So, Grassley gets "punished" for poking around the bank accounts of these phonies... :rofl:



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/obamas_ceos.html

Evangelicals and their allies, dominating last weekend's Iowa Republican state convention, dumped their critic, Sen. Chuck Grassley, from the state's delegation to the national convention in St. Paul, Minn. The five-term senator is Iowa's senior Republican elected official.

Grassley has aroused the ire of Christian conservatives by launching a Senate Finance Committee investigation of six televangelists for alleged lavish spending. Leading conservatives, headed by Paul Weyrich and Ken Blackwell, have charged Grassley with violating the First Amendment religious freedom guarantee.

The 74-year-old Grassley once was considered the leader of the Iowa Republican Party's conservative wing but has been at odds with increasingly influential evangelical elements in the party.

[Frustratedlady]

1. Don't back down, Chuck! You are on the right trail.

Grassley won't be frightened by these people. If he thinks he's right, he will continue to probe. He may be a horrible speaker, but he is honest.

[opihimoimoi]

6. That Weyrich guy comes from the Nixon years...big time pub

sneaky and IMHO...an evil guy

[formercia]

11. His connection to right-wing reactionaries: He is one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1108892&mesg_id=1122797

starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #132
133. Tradition, Family, and Property linked to Blackwell, Weyrich, and Jarmin

http://www.franz-lee.org/files/pandemonium00490.html

"In Chile and other Latin American countries, the CIA helped finance the right-wing Tradition, Family and Property which played a role in the overthrow of both Allende in Chile and Goulart in Brazil. In many instances it pitted one sector of the Church against another."

Tradition, Family and Property has close ties with Heritage founder, Paul Weyrich and Morton Blackwell of the Leadership Institute, who are members of the CNP. Weyrich and Blackwell endorsed a 1993 book by Plinio Corrêa de Oliviera, on the necessity of restoring traditional nobility and elites to rule the world. Writing the Forward of "Nobility & Analogous Traditional Elites," Morton Blackwell opined: "One does not have to accept Papal infallibility to appreciate a case persuasively made, using theological, moral, and prudential arguments. This book will convince many readers, whatever their faith, that good elites are legitimate, desirable and, yes, necessary."
--snip--

[opihimoimoi]

14. Using EVIL disguised as logical and good...he and others carry on their work

He is one of Satans devils on this Earth...most likely explanation...

An Alien disguised as a Human to get us to off each other using the divide and conquer shit....typ pub tactic...

[formercia]

15. The Ignobility at work.

or as some have described them as "the wrecking crew."

[opihimoimoi]

17. The American Results under Bush / Crew has all the signs and symptoms of confirming the wreckage

that is our current status...we have been WRECKED....right in front of our noses, how clever of them, many out there still do not see it

[npincus]

2. LOL- Check out "GrasleyWatch.com"!

"Sen. Grassley's inquisition" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://www.grassleywatch.com/?p=12

Because it is so important, the full text of the coalition letter against Senator Grassley’s inquisition against the six ministries discussed here is appended in the extended body of this post. Read it, and read the names on it. These are serious men who care about faith in America — and know a threat to it when they see one.

We may only hope Chuck Grassley heeds them

[tanyev]

3. I almost wish I could go to this year's GOP convention.

Could be most entertaining.

[AwakeAtLast]

4. I think they doth protest too much....

Eye of needle, meet camel. ;)

:rofl:

[baldguy]

5. Put "Rev." in front of your name you can get away with murder.

Literally.

[npincus]

7. WaPo: "Probe Biased, Televangelists Say"

BOO HOOOOO...




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/23/AR2008052302679.html

'Prosperity Gospel' Ministers Contend Senator Is Targeting Pentecostals


By Jacqueline L. Salmon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 24, 2008; Page B09

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), who is investigating six televangelists for alleged lavish spending, is facing growing criticism from prominent conservatives and evangelicals, some of whom question whether Grassley is biased against the Pentecostal televangelists because of his Baptist faith. Many are also concerned that his probe intrudes on the churches' constitutional right to practice their religion.

Kenneth Copeland, a Texas-based televangelist who is a subject of Grassley's investigation, recently launched a Web site, http://believersstandunited.com, to fight the probe. Copeland said the investigation is "aimed at publicly questioning the religious beliefs of the targeted churches, their ministers, and their members while ignoring televangelists of other denominations."

Copeland's stance is supported by almost two dozen leaders of conservative secular and religious organizations, who criticized the inquiry in a letter sent this month to the Senate Finance Committee. The letter suggested that the ministries were targeted for sharing "the same branch of evangelicalism."


The letter's signers, including Paul Weyrich, Moral Majority co-founder; Ken Blackwell, chairman of the Coalition for a Conservative Majority; and Anthony Verdugo of the Christian Family Coalition, said the probe also infringes on churches' First Amendment rights.

[babylonsister]

8. Not that funny to me; this shows how powerful they are.

I think Grassley, for a change, was trying to do the right thing by going after them.

[LeftishBrit]

9. How can Christian Righties even talk about 'first amendment rights'...

censorship is one of the things those people are all about.

And isn't Ken Blackwell the corrupt politician who messed up the voters in Ohio in 2004? He should be in prison, not lecturing anyone about morality.

Anyway, it's what I call the First Law of Republican Politics: however right-wing someone is, they can still be attacked or replaced from even further right!

[fascisthunter]

10. aha.... televangelist have lots to hide

those charlatans deserve to be exposed and then thrown to the wolves.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

12. I post on a newsgroup......

....with a far right evangelical nut on it. He was screaming about Grassley being a typical pork barrel pol going after a man of the cloth. On and on and on....he must have made a 100 replies in one thread. I guess old Chuck has the bible thumpers up a wall!

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. If the RNC had superdelegates, this wouldn't happen

[progressoid]

16. That last line characterizes what is happening here (and hopefully across the land)

The 74-year-old Grassley once was considered the leader of the Iowa Republican Party's conservative wing but has been at odds with increasingly influential evangelical elements in the party.

There was a pretty good rift within the Iowa Rep party after the last election. The traditional conservatives (Grassley types) had a nasty fight with the evangelical/morals vote wing about the direction the party had gone and should go.

Let's hope it keeps going! :)