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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:21 PM
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So I turn on the TV to watch Olbermann and the screen is blank
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 07:37 PM by ooglymoogly
I then go to comcast linup and the channel has been removed. I have a digital TV. I put that question on google and saw some alarming news; That comcast may be dropping MSNBC from their lineup. Does anyone have any further news on this alarming story?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:22 PM
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1. In the Pittsburgh area, MSNBC was moved from 31 to 183 on Monday
...and it sucks.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:30 PM
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5. What?! This is a major cable network. The Bushites have to be behind this.
We are not going to make it to January 20.

Time is running out on us.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:28 PM
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14. Fox of course just comes in as usual
as does cnn and most of the other channels.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:39 PM
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16. BINGO, CITIZEN
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:05 PM
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41. Comcast has long worked to keep viewers detached from any
programming which would give them a real idea of what's going on ---

They took C-span II/Senate out of our regular line up more than a year ago --

And . .. I think it was just a day or two before the '04 election, they changed

EVERY channel number!

When we did have the Senate, they kept cutting down the hours it was shown.

And how do you like your Comcast bill -- ???

I keep trying to move this question with our Town Council members but no one

wants to pick it up ---

competition . . . ? where?

Comcast is paying off someone to let them run amuck ---


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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:23 PM
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2. They did that in Denver about two years ago.
I've since moved on to Dish Network.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:24 PM
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3. Where are you?
I certainly hope you are not in Marin County.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:33 PM
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6. Ma. nt
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:28 PM
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4. I don't think its a maybe. Comcast is actually doing it.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:33 PM
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7. Drop Comcast, go to "free" T.V. they will still try to brain wash you
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 07:33 PM by Uncle Joe
but at least you won't be paying a monthly bill for the honor.

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:36 PM
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32. I tried googling "free TV " and came up with unsatisfying result...
Do you have a link?
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:13 PM
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45. I assume that Uncle Joe is reffering to over the air digital signals.
You just need an antenna and a TV.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:55 PM
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58. Yes, thank you EOTE, that is what I meant. n/t
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:33 PM
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8. They were supposed to switch MSNBC to a digital tier on Tuesday.
So far we are getting it on both the old and the new channel. I had to get a new converter for upstairs so I could watch. Up until now I could watch off a straight feed. I haven't heard anything about them dropping the channel altogether, though. If they do that, I'll drop some of my services and won't hesitate to let them know why.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:39 PM
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9. Sounds like progress in the 'right' direction; one less RW rethug television station.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:10 PM
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Right . . .who cares . . except for Olbermann . . . top half of show...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:41 PM
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10. DISH... ASAP
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 07:42 PM by SoCalDem
Better service + you get FSTV & LINK and a whole slew of university & PBS channels..

we pay about $110 and have the everything package which includes HBO/SHO/Starz etc..
we have 4 tvs hooked up to it and have a 150 hr DVR recorder that operates on two of the tvs..

love love love Dish
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:07 PM
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12. Yep, gave them the boot a year ago;
with dish and dsl ,I cut my bill about in half and gained services......dish is not without some problems, but neither was Adelpia/Comcast.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:39 PM
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33. there are trees behind my house in the direction of the satilite
and 2 years ago they could not clear them for the signal...have they gotten any new equipment in the sky?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:44 PM
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51. I have a grove of 100 feet eucalyptus in front of the satellite but I am
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 01:45 PM by Cleita
able to get both TV and broadband. They found an opening through the trees although sometimes I lose the signal if it's windy. Also, if the trees are on your property you can prune away some of the branches that are in the way that can create an opening. It doesn't take very much. I have used satellite TV in the middle of forests just moving it around until I could find and opening in the canopy. The only thing I haven't been able to find a signal through is a hill or tall building that blocks the signal.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:43 PM
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11. In Minneapolis, Comcast just stole The National Geographic Channel
When you call, they claim it's the CHANNEL'S fault for 'going digital!'
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:43 PM
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17. COMCAST PUT CSPAN 2 (THE SENATE) ON DIGITAL PAY CHANNELS
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:14 PM
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46. This is the pre-actual date of change pressure to get us moving to
either get digital TVs or get converters . . .

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:15 PM
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47. ....and think about it, how in the hell could Congress let them make changes like
this anywhere near election time --- ???

If we have another steal, it would be important to be able to see what's

happening --- ????
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:27 PM
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13. I sent an email to Comcast expressing my opinion that this was political
because neither FOX nor CNN got moved to the upper tier. I received a phone call back. The woman said they are receiving many complaints and she would forward mine. She said there was a possibility MSNBC would be moved back. I told her that Comcast was the topic of discussion at a "Democratic online discussion group with more than 100,000 registered users, and that most felt there was a political motivation for the switch and many were strongly considering switching to AT&T or Dish Network. I said I would be doing the same if they did not restore MSNBC soon.

If you haven't called or written to complain, I urge you to do so. Link for Comcast feedback here:
http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Contactus/Co...


Click on "Email Rick" in option #6.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:49 PM
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15. Thanks for the link! I live in MA and they just changed MSNBC from Ch.40 (FOX is 41)
to Ch. 251!!!

I wrote and complained, to the address you provided.
Damn them!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:51 PM
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18. Geez....
...anyone feel like the walls are closing in?

They're destroying us economically. We can all be detained by the President and declared
"enemy combatants" and they're making it more difficult to find the truth, via the media.

...and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:10 AM
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23. Yes, the world is getting smaller and smaller and will continue to do so until
Jan. 20, 2009.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 09:47 AM
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30. Do you think we'll make it to that point...
...without some kind of snafu happening?

I just don't see these bastard neocons slinking away in defeat.

Getting a foothold in Iraq was just the first step. However, it
took them decades to get that foothold.

I don't see them relinquishing power. They all know that if they
lose, that foothold is gone and similar progress won't ever be witnessed
in their lifetimes.



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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:45 AM
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31. One can always hope. January can't get here soon enough. I really fear what BushCo. might
try to pull between now and then, with nothing left to lose.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:46 PM
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34. 7 Months is sufficient time for evil to complete its task nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:29 PM
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48. I've written and complained about C-spanII/Senate being gone . . .
I wouldn't bother about MSNBC -- but I did quickly try to use the form and couldn't get
e-mail to click.

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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 03:59 PM
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54. I "dood" it!!
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 04:08 PM by discerning christian
Thanks so much for this info and link!! I gave them "WHAT FOR" and also mentioned that I was a part of a LARGE PROGRESSIVE GROUP of bloggers, who believe that this is entirely political. I demanded they reconsider before my "change date" of Aug.5th,'08. I also told "rick" that if I didn't get a satisfacory response before that date, I would be switching to ATT, or Dish T.V.!!! Damn bastards! Can any one who has ATT TV in the Northeast part of the country, tell me how the rates are , and what channels they provide? Thanks!!
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:52 PM
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19. I sent them an email even tho I only have regular tv I do use comcast for the internet.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:54 PM
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37. You should switch to Verizon and tell them why....
Politically I don't know how Verizon stacks up but it can't be any worse than Comcast....I used to have comcast and dumped them for political interference and slow and problematic service. Verizon is much better. It has never been down and it is always faster than promised.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:31 PM
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49. Right ... Comcast has constant problems . .. daily . .. at one period two months ago . .
they were here to service our connections like three times!

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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:59 PM
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20. There's a reason why Comcast and Crap are used in the same sentence.
Not in their service area, probably never will be. Cutting out MSNBC, and also cutting off P2P operation on their internet operations. Smart moves...

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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:59 PM
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21. DirecTV is the only way to go...
All the news and movie channels. PBS, CSP1&2, National Geographic, Comedy Central, BBC, History Channel, etc. Also local channels.

In addition, I can get NFL Sunday Ticket.

Been with them since day one - post private satellite dish.

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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:06 AM
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26. Yuck, I don't like DirecTV.
The package I have sucks, I can't stand their menu setup, and their customer service has been nothing but crap in my experience. Oh well. I'm glad you like it, though. I would probably enjoy it more if I could afford to go up a level in packages.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:50 PM
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52. I've had DirecTV since 1996. It was the only way DH and I could get TV
when we were out traveling in our RV in the middle of nowhere. That and solar panels kept us connected to the world. I still have them since we got grounded. I find I have to update the receiver every five years, but all in all it's been very reliable and I'm the envy of the neighbors for the vast selection I get and the excellent HD picture I get. My neighbors have the local cable outlet that is supposed to have HD but the difference between my reception and theirs is night and day.

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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:19 PM
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22. Go to dish for MSNBC
AND buy a Wireless receiver to pirate high speed from an open network... ViVa free Internet!!!
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:48 PM
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35. Now that is some good advice....but will it work? nt
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:28 AM
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24. Yeah, they did this in Portland (Oregon) about six months ago.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 12:29 AM by travelingtypist
Poor Comcast, they must be really scared.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 03:24 AM
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25. I don't live in a Comcast area (thankfully), but I'm calling them tomorrow
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 03:25 AM by slay
I plan on filing a complaint, as well as filing one with the FCC. It's bullshit that FauxNews gets to stay on regular cable while msnbc gets shoved off to the higher digital channels. :mad: :mad:
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:32 AM
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27. kicking

will contact comcast later
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:45 AM
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28. I switched to Verizon from Comcast here in MD and it's so much better.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:57 PM
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38. my sentiments exactly.
besides if you switch you get to tell them why which if enough of us do it will send a lightning bolt into there bottom line.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:36 PM
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50. Does Verizon still have C-span I and II in regular line up? And. . .
how are they handling the change to "digital" --- you need converters?


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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 07:18 PM
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60. Yes, we had to get converters for our older television sets-
they will provide up to four. Two of our sets have high-def boxes which are extra, of course.

C-SPAN 1, 2, and 3 are part of their "Premier" package (I think that is the step above FIOS TV local stations)


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:35 PM
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61. In the "up is down" world . . . public service TV is a "premier" service . . . ???? ???
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 07:53 AM
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29. From Comcast: "Important information about your Service" ....
I received this letter a few weeks ago about Comcast moving certain channels up the "dial" (including MSNBC).

Here's there explanation (which sounds like hogwash).

Why is comcast moving analog channels to the digital lineup?

By moving channels to digital we create capacity for more HD channels, faster Internet speeds and other enhancements in response to customer demand.



MSNBC was supposed to move to Ch. 251 in my area on July 15 --- but as of last night, it was still on Ch. 53.

In my case, it doesn't matter much, since I can get Ch. 251 in my cable package.

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:17 PM
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56. Same here...Ours hasn't moved yet either
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 12:53 PM
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36. That is alarming
What about the part were we are supposed to have a 'free press'? I don't have cable TV because I have cable internet and can't afford both. I watch Keith on clips in the Video forum.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:02 PM
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39. The problem to me is the loss of viewers will take Kieth
down a few pegs and I do not want to see that happen
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:06 PM
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42. Clearly, that's the point...
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 01:12 PM by Junkdrawer
O'Really's rating were falling and Comcast decided to give him a boost.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:11 PM
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44. I have made a complaint to the FCC for this obvious political move.
Please everyone do this. If they get enough complaints they will have to take it up. Though I don't expect much from Martin.
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Meiko Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:08 PM
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53. The FCC
Doesn't regulate cable...just sayin'
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MANative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:04 PM
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40. Same thing happened here in western CT
We have several TVs, but only the one in the family room is hooked up to digital cable with a box - the others are just the regular cable feed. I was furious, not just because of this but also all the service problems we've had for the last 3 years since "upgrading" to digital. Called the customer service line and let them have it with a really snarky list of questions and my own answers. Was told that we could "further upgrade" and spend $2/box for the other TVs, and an additional $5 for each set for the service. Add it all up, and this so-called service improvement would cost us an additional $35/month on top of the $120 we pay now for sub-standard service.

:mad: :grr:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:10 PM
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43. A Comcast rep. calls us conspiracy nuts on the following thread:
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 01:10 PM by Junkdrawer
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Not surprisingly, OPERATIONMINDCRIME agrees.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #43
59. Actually, the rep did not call anyone a "conspiracy nut"
Don't engage in the same hyperbole you ridicule others for. It doesn't really help your case.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:15 PM
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55. They're moving him to the RFD channel...
Just before the Don Imus Show.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:20 PM
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57. ATT Uverse dropped MSNBC a while back. I miss KO!
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 11:29 PM
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62. Well, that answers one of my questions...
I guess AT&T is out for me. I also found out today that they are not near enough to provide service yet. I received a call back today from Comcast. They left a message to call them back. I'll let them hang until Monday,after I find out the rates for Direct TV here. I guess we're getting a rise out of them, what with all of the emails and calls!! Hope it does some good.
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