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Indigo Blue Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:18 PM
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Snow Brought a Measure of Dignity to White House
Snow Brought a Measure of Dignity to White House
posted by John Nichols on 07/12/2008 @ 3:13pm


Even as he struggled with cancer, former White House press secretary Tony Snow told reporters: "I'm a very lucky guy."

In fact, George Bush was lucky to have had Snow as his spokesman during the period when it became clear that, while Bush could not renew his failed presidency, he could be less of an embarrassment to himself and his country.

Snow was a true-believer Republican who, to a far greater extent than many of the people around the president, took seriously the work of communicating the ideas and ideals of the Bush-Cheney presidency to the American people.

Before he joined the administration, Snow had bluntly argued in a column that the president's "wavering conservatism has become an active concern among Republicans, who wish he would stop cowering under the bed and start fighting back against the likes of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Wilson."

"The newly passive George Bush has become something of an embarrassment," concluded Snow.

To his credit, Bush's reaction to the criticism was to invite Snow to help him do a better job of explaining his views.

To Snow's credit, he accepted the offer.

The dynamic put Snow in a position to be more than just a mouthpiece. In an administration that has suffered from a surplus of "yes men" and "yes women," the veteran Detroit News writer and Fox News commentator joined Bush's inner circle as someone with self-respect -- and the president's respect.

That made the brief period when Snow served as White House press secretary in 2006 and 2007 a time that saw the administration display a measure of dignity. It was also a time when Bush began to put more distance between himself at the noxious influence of Vice President Cheney -- a process that continues to this day.

Unlike his predecessor, Scott McClellan, who has acknowledged that he was duped by the sleazier elements (Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney) in the White House, and his successor, Dana Perino, who might charitably be described as "ridiculous," Snow was a mature adult who was not going to be duped and who cared enough about his reputation to offer up a rare commodity from this administration: honesty.

Snow's death, at age 53, after a long struggle with cancer, robbed the party to which he was resolutely loyal and the movement to which he was sincerely committed of one of its most serious and effective communicators.

George Herbert Walker Bush, with whom Snow worked almost two decades ago, may have said it best when he recalled that, "(Tony Snow) won the respect of even those who violently disagree with the president's proposals and policies. For that I think he'll be remembered. He brought a certain civility to this very contentious job."

One does not need to have agreed with Tony Snow's political views to agree with the former president's assessment.


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/336564 /


Please, if you want to make negative comments about Mr. Snow, I ask that you post them in another thread. I lost my mom to cancer, and it hurts. It just plain hurts.

Thank you,

Indigo Blue (Sapphire Blue's daughter)
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:19 PM
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1. all riiighty then.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:20 PM
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2. Is it opposite day?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:21 PM
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3. A victim not even counted
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:22 PM by spotbird
as a number by Tony.




Edited to add link:

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/page/2/
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:28 PM
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8. So not even a number then?
What does that make him? :cry:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:23 PM
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4. I disagree
God bless Tony Snow, his family, and yours.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:26 PM
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5. I don't want to have this reply deleted. n/t
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:26 PM by PCIntern
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:27 PM
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6. Sorry about your mom.
That's about all I can say.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:27 PM
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7. Sorry about your mother but mine also died of cancer. I think Tony Snow is a POS
A disgrace to the office of press secretary who deliberately made monkeys of the press corps (not that it took much), in a brazen attempt to prevent the American public from learning the truth about the criminal administration he worked for and shielded. He may be dead, but my contempt for him is alive and well.

The fact he died of cancer is absolutely irrelevant and is no excuse for the damage he did while alive.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:33 PM
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20. I lost my mother to cancer as well
And I agree with you.

Dignity? Since when is whining about "only" making $168,000 a year dignified?

Regards
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:28 PM
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9. I won't piss on Tony Snow's grave
While I disagreed with him, I think he really believed the bullcrap he so freely spread.

Cancer sucks. I watched my brother-in-law die recently; he was a Republican, but in death, he was a family member and a friend.

Thanks, Indigo Blue, and God bless Sapphire Blue.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:29 PM
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10. I won't dance on the man's grave but I wouldn't call anything he did for the WH
in the same ballpark as dignity.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:33 PM
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11. Considering who he was working for, a rhesus monkey would have also brought dignity. n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:34 PM
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12. Showmanship and Polish. Maybe. Dignity? Not Possible
You can't put dignity on a war criminal cabal.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:35 PM
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13. No he didn't.
eom
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:44 PM
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14. How great thou art, how great thou art
:D
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:45 PM
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15. i have no happiness for his death, but he was a right-wingnut
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:59 PM
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16. I don't know what to say to you, Indigo

except that I hope the pain gets less as soon as it can and that I really like your choice of name.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:01 PM
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17. Spare me, please.
I lost two husbands to cancer. This in no way alters my opinion of Tony Snow.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:06 PM
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18. In response to the title... WHEN?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:09 AM
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31. i had to search...i didn't know about it, either...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:00 AM
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32. What? Your response had nothing to do with my response to the title
The title I responded to was... Snow Brought a Measure of Dignity to White House

My response was "When"
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:59 AM
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39. my fault...i thought the 'when' you was talking about was Indigo Blue's mom
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:09 PM
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19. Come on now ppl. All the OP asked, was to post negative comments elsewhere. Why would you not? n/t
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 07:09 PM by JBoris
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:42 PM
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21. Could it be because there are plenty of people who have no idea how to swallow their hatred?
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 07:43 PM by cherokeeprogressive
Personally, I'd not say anything here that I wouldn't say to his wife or children as I looked into their eyes. But that's just me.

Compassion is sorely lacking here sometimes. It makes me extremely sad to be part of a "progressive" movement whose participants would only feel compassion for those THEY love, and unabashed UGLY HATRED for those they don't.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:46 PM
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23. why even start a thread like this?!
that's the question.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:01 AM
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28. Maybe because the Nation
Has a long history of brilliant writing, investigative reporting, and commitment to progressive ideas. They (generally) have the courage to admit when history has proven their positions wrong, and the fortitude to buck the CW when they think they are right.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:45 PM
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22. i'm sorry about your mom, but there is no place for trash like this at DU..
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 07:48 PM by frylock
and i mean that with all sincerity. i'll refrain from posting what i really feel about the man, but this crap only serves to bring out the worst in people around here.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:05 PM
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24. I'm sorry for your loss, and that of his family.

See pm
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:22 PM
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25. He Was....
He was a complete asshole... stop with the revisionist stuff.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:52 PM
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26. Why would you post this here? Why would you try to sanitize the record
of this man who helped enable the neocon agenda and the Iraq slaughter of innocents?

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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:01 AM
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29. Since when is the Nation
Not welcome here?

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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:59 AM
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27. Excellent article
I frigging love the Nation.

It's simply good writing, and honest.
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EbenezerMcIntosh Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 01:04 AM
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30. If you call promoting and covering up lies while killing innocents "dignified."
The cause of his death has nothing to do with whether he was dignified or not. The man was a fascist fuckhead.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:04 AM
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33. there was no dignity in the bu$h* white house. let's not lionize tony just cause of cancer
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cayuga Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:11 AM
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34. Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels brought dignity to the Nazis
As the Reich Minister of Public Enlightenment. If you were a Nazi, that is. The view depends on what side of the fence you're on.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:27 AM
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35. I am sorry for your loss, Indigo Blue
Your mother was admired here.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:54 AM
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36. 1/4 tsp.
The measure he brought.

-Hoot
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:57 AM
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37. I'm sorry for your loss, and that of the Snow family.
May they both rest in peace and may you find comfort, IB. :hug:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:58 AM
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38. Compared to the "Dignity" Bush* and Cheney brought
I suppose you could say he did but real "Dignity" I don't think so...
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