"It's a number"

[jgraz]

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 15, 2006

Press Briefing by Tony Snow
James S. Brady Briefing Room


Q Tony, American deaths in Iraq have reached 2,500. Is there any response or reaction from the President on that?


MR. SNOW: It's a number




And every time there's one of these 500 benchmarks people want something.




The President would like the war to be over now.




Everybody would like the war to be over now.




And the one thing that we saw in Iraq this week is further testimony to the quality of the men and the women who are doing that,




and the dedication and determination




to try to ensure that the people of Iraq really do live in a free, effective democracy of their own creation and design.

[Blecht]

1. Perfectly appropriate post for today

Thank you.

I'm sure this won't last long, though. It's too "inflammatory."

[Fumesucker]

2. Thanks for putting it in perpective n/t

[speedoo]

3. Thank you. Very appropriate. nt

[Strelnikov_]

4. ..

Thats the way its done.

[malaise]

5. Great post

In his own style add one more but remember he lied while they died.
K & R

[Sugar Smack]

6. Good perspective of hard reality, jgraz.

Thanks.

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. May all of those 'numbers' R.I.P

Thank you for the post

[DearAbby]

8. Dead on accurate post

K&R

[Bjorn Against]

9. We grieve over the well known names, and ignore the names of those who are not so well known

Thanks for reminding us that Tony Snow is not the only person who lost his life, if only he would have grieved for the people that were murdered by the people he defended then maybe I could have some respect for him.

I send my regards to his family, but I am not going to pretend that he was a great man.

[Arugula Latte]

27. Exactly. And, not only that, we're supposed to pretend that these people

who have died didn't commit actions that harmed or murdered dozens or hundreds or thousands of people. Reagan, Falwell, Thurmond, Helms, Tony Snow, and on and on ... all have blood on their hands. The innocent suffer and die, but we're told to just keep our mouths shut and gloss over the villainous deeds these dead neocons and hatemongers and religious freaks and war criminals have commited.

[Mad_Dem_X]

69. So true.

"we're told to just keep our mouths shut and gloss over the villainous deeds these dead neocons and hatemongers and religious freaks and war criminals have commited."

And that is something which I just cannot do.

[Philosoraptor]

10. .................

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. 4118

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

[lpbk2713]

12. He was a reflection of his tyrannical master.

[KG]

13. +2

[defendandprotect]

14. Truth helps us all . . .

"It's a number" ... is something I'll remember. Thank you!

[Swamp Rat]

15. !

[arcadian]

16. Thank you

some people on this board are cool with the slaughter perpetrated in their names.

[njlib]

17. Thank you for this

It was the first thing that went through my head when I heard Snow had become "a number".

[John Q. Citizen]

18. An extremely powerful and moving post. Thank you.

[Solly Mack]

19. Brilliant

[Psyop Samurai]

20. Indeed. nt

[ooglymoogly]

21. Excellent post....Even a perfect post....nt kr

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. And, now he his reached the same status, but with more fanfare.

Although, my feelings over his demise, as opposed to those pictured are ones of indifference.

[last_texas_dem]

23. Thanks for this post

That about sums it up...

[theFrankFactor]

24. Snow Attended Grad School in Philosophy...

how can that be? How does one study philosophy and choose the Republican party?

Condolences to his family.

[jgraz]

30. He spent one year studying philosophy and economics at .. wait for it ... The University of Chicago

A.K.A The Dumbass Republican Factory.

[Stuckinthebush]

35. Huh?

I didn't know this about UofC.

They have had a number of great sociologists and thinkers come from there.

I'll have to check into the GOP connection.

[jgraz]

36. See Friedman, Milton.

[Stuckinthebush]

38. OK

But there are also others like Glaser and Strauss. Of course they were positivists trying to find a more "objective" way to conduct qualitative research so that does make them kind of conservative.

I'll look around.

[jgraz]

Strauss?? As in Leo Strauss??

You're using the father of neo-conservatism as a counter-example? Wow.

[Stuckinthebush]

47. LOL! No!

Glaser and Strauss of Grounded Theory fame. Very obscure to anyone not interested in qualitative research.

Anselm Strauss...sorry for the confusion.

[jgraz]

49. bwahaha. OK, who knew there were two famous Strausses from there?

;P

[jgraz]

44. dup..

But still, Leo Fucking Strauss?? Damn.

[Stuckinthebush]

48. No, not Leo Fucking Strauss

I know better than that.

[jgraz]

58. Cool bit of trivia: His middle name actually is "Fucking".

[Stuckinthebush]

64. HA!

Who knew?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

80. AKA:

The Spawn of Satan.

[ooglymoogly]

107. AKA the man with the simple, simplistic brain.

could not see color...only black and white and how to interpret them into Nu speak.

[awoke_in_2003]

25. Thanks

It is quotes like this why I won't post in the RIP posts. (that and the possibility of tombstoning0

[johnnie]

26. You're going to hurt someone's feelings with this post

Excellent post

[Arugula Latte]

28. My hat is off to you, jgraz.

You nailed it. K&R

[Nostradammit]

29. Exactly

Rest in Torment, Tony Snow.

[Blue_In_AK]

31. Excellent, Jgraz. Thank you. nt

[frog92969]

32. I approve this message.

K&R

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

33. Fitting

No hyperbole or invective. No vehement accusations. Merely reciting Snow's (and Bush's) words.

[Raster]

34. Thanks jgraz! I'd say you pretty well summed it up for me.

No gravedancing. But let us not forget he wasn't on our side...far from it.

Sincere sympathies to his family. And 53 is way, way too young.

[WillyT]

37. K & R !!!

[BlueStater]

39. Tony Snow chose to spend his final years as a liar for Bush

I take no joy in his death but that's the sad truth of the matter.

[mloutre]

40. In re which, I surely must add:

A terribly poignant post I made to DU well nigh a year year ago, and nothing's a whole much different since then:

In Flyover Country, two funerals and a waiting

Sigh.

The less things change, the more they stay insane...

[lonestarnot]

41. Just a fucking number since it wasn't removed!

Only thread of it's kind that I will post to on the subject! K & R

[Individualist]

42. K&R

[WilliamPitt]

43. My thread with the same name

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[proud2BlibKansan]

45. Excellent

Here is his guestbook if anyone is interested in signing it:
http://www.legacy.com/Herald/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?Pers...

[jgraz]

46. I'll avoid the temptation. Don't want to pile on his family today.

Too bad we can't say what we really feel on this board.

[TomInTib]

50. In celebration of the life of Tony Snow...

we've been partying ever since we heard that he died.

And we're taking the party to Nicasio, tonight.

[jgraz]

54. I'm all partied out from last weekend.

We converted our Independence Day celebration to a "Jesse Helms is Dead Day" party. It was a blast.

[TomInTib]

56. Oh, man, I wish I had known.

I would've driven over the bridge, for that.

Speaking of driving...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

My Tony Snow is Dead Day is almost complete. Shanna Morrison at Rancho Nicasio tonight will cap it off jest fine.

[jgraz]

57. OK, when Cheney or Scalia croak, you're invited

[orleans]

102. (LOfuckingL!) n/t

[asdjrocky]

51. Great post jgraz.

Nothing could have hit home better.

[Faygo Kid]

52. This is why I'm on DU. This is truth, and it will not be noted by the MSM.

Maybe Frank Rich, in Sunday's NY Times. He's the only one who would touch this ultimate truth.

Only a number, indeed.

[Dystopian]

53. Will never forget. K&R

My son standing out with us not long after his statement:

[RTBerry]

55. thank you

n/t

[Duncan Grant]

59. Finally, on this day, a post worthy of DU.

Perfectly done.

[happygoluckytoyou]

60. it is just a number..... please add and forward photos.... then it will be more

[spotbird]

72. The thread can't be edited.

So more photos have to come through the comments.

[spotbird]

61. Not a number

What were the survivors to Tony?

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://livingpolitics.files...

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2007/02/your_tu...

[spotbird]

62. Here's a number for Tony

May he rest in Peace.

[midnight]

65. Another tear jerk post. These have got to end.

[spotbird]

68. Why?

It is his legacy. It would be a crime for it to be forgotten.

[pleah]

63. K&R n/t

[midnight]

66. All this sadness cannot possibly be reflected in a number.

[Mad_Dem_X]

67. Thank you for the reminder.

Excellent post.

[marias23]

70. To Duers from A Colon Cancer Survivor

Get Colonoscopies.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

78. I would if I had insurance...

[HughMoran]

71. 100 recs is a number too

Good & appropriate post

[annabanana]

73. Sadly, Thank You. . . . . . . . n/t

[FourScore]

74. This is perfect. Thank you. n/t

[Kickin_Donkey]

75. Thanks ...

I'll mourn for the 2,500 ... now 4,100. I don't mourn a war criminal.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

76. You do have a way of cutting to the chase...

and it is a talent. Enough misery for the proles (99% of the world's population) -- what we suffer so that Cheney and Co. increase their numbers needs to end... now.

[AzDar]

77. .......

[bjobotts]

79. Thanks! Worth a thousand words

[OnyxCollie]

81. I made a similar post on a different thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[orleans]

103. that was a great post you did. n/t

[mitchum]

82. I approve this message

[Arugula Latte]

83. I'm glad your post has passed Skinner's shushing post in recs, jgraz

Yours is far more appropriate, IMO.

[Divine Discontent]

84. very well done post, that simply captures his own words about death

and since he felt that way about the troops, well...

Cancer is a horrible bastard, and I am sorry anyone must suffer through that, regardless, but we should all watch our words. because, "it's a number" is pretty morbid.

more at - - - www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[me b zola]

85. IMO, your post is the proper eulogy

Whether someone wants to mourn him or damn him, lets get straight who & what the guy was.

Excellent post.

[FREEWILL56]

86. Ensure freedom for Iraqis?

Well I don't think it should mean free them of their lives. Will you be turning in your grave for an eternity?

[LeftyFingerPop]

87. Your OP sucks...

Yes...it sucks. Because of what it implies.

Tony Snow was a human being.

Let him rest.

Just like you would let any other dead man rest.

[jgraz]

88. Your faux outrage for a war criminal is sickening.

Will you post this same special pleading when Cheney dies? Rumsfeld? Bush?

There are thousands upon thousands of people in their graves because of Snow's shilling for this murderous regime. I kept my post simple, truthful and without invective. If that's too much for you, or if you think Snow's death merits more sympathy than those of the people pictured above, perhaps you need to find a forum that's a bit more compatible with your twisted sensibilities.

[LeftyFingerPop]

90. Oh....

Fucking blow me. I know it will get deleted. Who cares?

The guy is dead...let him rest.

He has kids...they are hurting...show compassion for all...not for just the people that make you look good on a liberal message board.

[jgraz]

91. There's the intelligent response I was expecting.

Do you really think Snow's kids are reading DU? And if they are, who the fuck cares? Sooner or later, they are going to have to come to grips with the fact that their father was a monster. Perhaps they already know and were secretly thankful to watch him rot from the inside out.

It's too bad your pathetic need to feel good about yourself is overwhelming any tiny moral compass you may have. Believe it or not, there actually ARE evil people in this world, and I won't pretend to be sorry when they die. The only sad part is that we had to wait 53 years before we were finally rid of this piece of subhuman filth.

[LeftyFingerPop]

92. Expect this. n/t

[jgraz]

93. That insult really doesn't work on a text forum, braintrust.

Sorry, did I use too many big words for you? Maybe once you're done with your mom's computer, you can have her explain what I wrote to you.

[LeftyFingerPop]

94. A man is dead...

He was a good man, perhaps misguided, but a good man.

Shut the fuck up if you cannot handle one negative comment on your thread.

[jgraz]

97. Good men are defined by their actions.

And judging by his actions, Tony Snow was a murdering thug. There's nothing about his death that is the least bit sad or deserving of respect.

And as far as your oh-so-intelligent negative comment, I believe I'm handling it quite well. You, on the other hand, seem to be having trouble rising above "sucks", "blow me" and text-based crotch-grabbing. Pretty poor showing for you this evening.

[LeftyFingerPop]

98. Not every Republican...

deserves to die from colon cancer and then have a people speak poorly of him on a message board.

Goodnight.

[Malidictus Maximus]

106. ".. there actually ARE evil people in this world, and I won't pretend to be sorry when they die"

*THAT* is the heart of the matter.

[cabbage08]

89. K&R

[WCGreen]

95. Tony Snow... Just a mouthpiece....

[leftstreet]

96. k&r

[stimbox]

99. K&R!!!

Excellent post as per usual from you jgraz.

You are my hero.

[Eyes_wide_ open]

100. How appropriate K&R

[NattPang]

101. They showed a rerun of one of Snow's interviews on C-Span.

He talked about what a great thinker Bush is.
Like a chess player playing on
48 different boards at the same time, he said.
Especially when it comes to Geopolitics, he added.

[orleans]

104. k&r. amazing thread.

tony snow died too young -- that's true.

tony snow never grew a conscience -- also true.

[Christa]

105. K & Highly recommended nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

108. Kicking this very appropriate thread.

[proud2BlibKansan]

109. kick

[Raster]

110. Kick!