Freeper got a suspended sentence after getting caught with a rifle altered to be fully automatic

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.nbc4.com/news/15429728/detail.html

Man Pleads Guilty To Charges Related To Immigration Rights Rally

Police: Weapons Found At Home Of Man Who Confronted Rally Supporters

WASHINGTON -- A New Jersey man has pleaded guilty to charges related to a May 2007 immigration rights rally at Meridian Hill Park in Northwest, authorities said.

Police said they arrested Tyler J. Froatz Jr., 24, after he got into a shoving match with supporters at the rally on May 1. Police said that at the rally Froatz displayed a sign that reads: "Being illegal is a crime." Another sign included a graphic drawing of soldiers firing weapons at and into immigrants entering the country at the Mexican border. The sign read, "In order to stop the flood ... you have to stop the flow!"

Participants of the rally confronted Froatz and a verbal and physical altercation between him and a rally participant ensued. U.S. Park Police were called to the park and arrested Froatz on assault charges.

Court documents revealed that when Froatz was arrested, police found two knives on him, a flare gun and a stun gun.

Authorities said they searched his Jeep Cherokee next to the park and found an unregistered loaded rifle and a box of ammunition. The rifle was made to be semi-automatic but had been altered to be fully automatic.


http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/143153/index.php

He was convicted of:

Carrying a dangerous weapon: a 7-inch K-bar Knife

Possession of an unregistered firearm: M1 Carbine rifle

Unlawful Possession of ammunition

Unlawful Possession of a Molotov Cocktail

The Carrying a Dangerous Weapon and Possession of a Molotov Cocktail charges carry statutory terms of up to 5 years imprisonment.

The Unlawful Possession of a firearm and Ammunition charges carry statutory terms of up to 1 year imprisonment.

However the DOJ is advertising that he will likely face 6-24 months on the Carrying a Dangerous Weapon charge. They do not indicate sentencing recommendations for the other charges.


Good thing his name wasn't Mohammad. He would be in Gitmo right now.

[hobbit709]

1. Or if he'd been a "gasp" liberal-they'd have thrown the book at him.

[unpossibles]

2. oh, the irony. And moronry.

"Being illegal is a crime."

Yes, so is your armament, jackass.

[sandnsea]

3. Aw, nobody alters semi-autos

Just go ask the folks in the gungeon, they'll tell you it's so difficult that it's never done. :eyes:

And then when you show them how gun laws are not enforced, they'll argue that too.

This is disgusting.

[Dogtown]

Link:

http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/



The above site sells plans to manufacture a fully automatic submachine gun; basically very similar to the "STEN" gun plans sent to resistance groups throughout occupied Europe in WWII.

It's so easy to build that only hand tools are needed.


Any competent machinist can make a selector switch/firing assembly to convert any semi-auto to full.

:eyes:

[comradebillyboy]

8. there are a number of relativly inexpensive

semiautomatic rifles, for example Ruger's Mini-14, that are easily converted to full auto. Making that conversion is, however, a felony. The irony is that its much easier to hit your target if you are in the semi auto mode because you maintain much better control over the gun.

[Dogtown]

10. Agreed, comradebillyboy

On all counts.



Unless you're doing crowd-control or ambushing the cops. Suppressive fire does have it's military uses; by Martial Law enforcers, or by guerrillas resisting oppression. The weapon cited is smooth-bore and probably woefully inaccurate, but massive firepower will keep heads down, especially against the untrained civilian or the inadequately trained policeman, most of whom have no combat experience and scanty training in encountering much else besides liquor-store bandits.

I posted merely to reinforce the above view that it is easy to alter existing weapons to full-auto, or make one from scratch. One the one-hand, it does deflate enthusiast claims that it can't be done, on the other it proves how ineffective ant-gun legislation is.

It would seem more realistic to "aggravate" existing crimes to include a huge *mandatory* penalty for the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime. Apparently, enforcement is entirely subjective. Or the prisons are too full of "DRUG OFFENDERS!!"

[Irreverend IX]

13. Full-auto isn't the magic death ray video games make it out to be.

Most people I've talked to with combat experience agree that semiauto fire is the most effective in combat, while full-auto is only useful in a few situations, the chief of which is, as you said, suppressive fire. If a thug were going to shoot at me, I'd rather he use a full-auto machine pistol than a semiauto pistol, since if he used a full-auto odds are good that only his first couple shots would be aimed in my general direction and the rest would be sprayed into the air above me.

[Dogtown]

16. Your information is valid.

Your observation possibly less so.

Submachine guns and full automatic rifles are lethal. Personnel trained with them know to use full-auto in short bursts rather than sustained fire. Most modern weapons have a setting for "3 rd burst" as well as "safe", 'semi" and "auto". A person trained well with these weapons can put 3 in the 10 ring at reasonable ranges (25-50 meters) and will tag the target with at least one round at 50-200 meters, depending on the weapon.

A semi auto pistol would do well to reach a target with any effect at 50 yards.

Old-timey full-autos, like the Thompson and the BAR, did indeed climb dramatically but modern arms don't climb uncontrollably. The Mini Uzi can be fired off-hand, for example.



Not dissing your sources. Just fleshing things out. If you're interested in the subject, Wiki has a very thorough article at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine_guns

[DrCory]

11. A Quote Would Be Nice...

"Just go ask the folks in the gungeon, they'll tell you it's so difficult that it's never done."

I'm curious to see if such a statement does in fact exit.

[derby378]

12. You're right - that is so much horseshit

Methinks someone's just trying to stir something up, but I digress.

[frog92969]

4. Why isn't he doing 5+ years?

[YOY]

5. Potential "terrorist"

n/t

[LeftHander]

6. people got tortured in Gitmo for much less....nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Did they impound his XXL cami jockstrap (flagpin extra), too?

[bow-tie]

9. Thong?

Ooops, I just threw up, just a little bit.

[Canuckistanian]

14. "Being illegal is a crime"

Where do they find these Einsteins?

[BreweryYardRat]

15. Suspended sentence?

What judge presided over this guy's trial, and can we get that judge sacked for gross incompetence? This fucker was in a position to murder a lot of innocent people. If he'd gone in shooting, God only knows how many people would have died.