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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:24 PM
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Images of Pentagon Black Sites and Missions
Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 06:43 PM by readmoreoften
Trevor Paglen is a geometer and a photography who has used astronomical photography to catch glimpses of the Pentagon's secret activities, black sites, and extraordinary renditions. Here are some preliminary images of what our tax dollars pay for.



site called cactus flat



hangar taken from distance of 18 miles



biological and chemical weapons testing ground from 42 miles away




unmarked extraordinary rendition plane from 1 mile



commemorative patch from classified special operation



black site with unknown name



black site called The Salt Pit

http://www.paglen.com/pages/projects/nowhere/code_names/installed_houston.htm
code names of special operations classified missions from 2001-2005

http://www.paglen.com/

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:26 PM
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1. Wow, no wonder the neocons and rePUKEs are total whack-jobs
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:30 PM
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2. You can't be serious.
Also, where can I get one of those commemorative patches? :eyes:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:39 PM
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3. Eyeroll yourself. The patches and photographs are real.
Paglen's work has been covered in the NYT, ArtForum, and even on the Colbert Report. His doctoral research was in this area.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:56 PM
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9. I don't doubt it.
What un-impressed me were the photographs themselves.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:59 PM
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10. that's an aweome patch
I'd love to get my hands on one.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:41 PM
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4. Nope, no fascism here at all....
Move along and be a good citizen now....

Stop scaring people about the government and what it doesn't tell us. They are only trying to keep you free and safe, and if you are lucky, you may have the privilege and honor of being experimented on some day. :sarcasm:

Note: I fear the U.S. Government more than I fear any outside threat to my safety and security.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:28 PM
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14. Agree with that note
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:19 PM
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16. Well said.
They are at war with their own citizenry.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 06:57 PM
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5. Clarifications:
Top picture is Area 51. You can see it real well in Google Earth.

The red and white 737 is a "Janet Flight" out of Las Vegas. It is one of the planes used to ferry workers to and from Area 51. Whether they have used the Janet's for renditions, I do not know.

The large wasteland is Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah. You do not want to go hiking there.

Bottom two are secret jails in Afghanistan.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:06 PM
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8. Thanks for the clarifications. I didn't realize it was Area 51. He only had it under "cactus"
Guess it's a well known imagine I didn't pick up on.

The wasteland is Dugway, per his website.

And as the poster above said, it is Janet. I was confusing the photos with his site Terminal Air which tracks Gitmo and other flights.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 07:24 PM
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6. You've misidentified "unmarked extraordinary rendition plane from 1 mile"
Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 07:58 PM by LibInTexas
The plane is actually a "Janet", one of the 737's used to ferry workers from Las Vegas to Area 51.

The caption on the picture at his site reads:
Unmarked 737 at "Gold Coast" Terminal
Las Vegas, NV
Distance ~ 1 mile
10:44 p.m.


I was all over his site this weekend after another DUer posted something about it.

The "Janets" have been an internet fav for several years. They are almost certainly NOT used for extraordinary rendition.


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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 09:02 PM
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7. Ah! Yes, it's just one of the unmarkeds he has on his terminal airways website. Thanks.
Sorry about the confusion.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:00 PM
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11. Just to play devil's advocate
what sort of terrifying imagery are those pictures supposed to conjure up?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:16 PM
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12. It's the innocuous landscape of the invisible government.
n't
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:26 PM
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13. Yes, that photo of salt flats
certainly speaks of the fact that there's no denying it's a chemical/biological testing range.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 10:49 PM
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15. I found a secret detention facility in Northern Virginia
Edited on Mon Jun-23-08 10:52 PM by arcadian
In Alexandria, outside of D.C. Department of Homeland Security. On the gounds of the Coast Guards Telecommunications Command on Telegraph Rd. The sat photo shows it as a building surrounded by an octagonal shaped double razor wire fence. There are camera posts at every angle of the octagon. There are also cameras on every corner of the building. There are three separate open air areas within the building, one has tables and chairs and is obviously for taking meals. The other two are partitioned off into three chambers and four chambers, look closely and you can see cameras in the corners to monitor these open air partitions, one for each chamber. These, I believe are for prisoners to get some "outdoor time". The rectangular part of the building to the upper left has ventilitaion ducts which would suggest it is used for food service. I have searched and searched to find some reference to this facility somewhere on the internet, there is none. It was also recently built. Any input is greatly appreciated.

sat photos here: you can get a north, south, east, west view. Look around at it tell me what you think.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=qfrswb8k5mwp&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=22932432&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=38.751973~-77.124938&style=h&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=22932601&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1





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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:27 PM
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17. If it's sitting on Telegraph Road
it's not very secret.

I seriously doubt that's a detention facility as there are no guard towers and the entrance is nothing more than an un-guarded pair of chain link fences (one of which is open). Much more likely that this is an intelligence facility or some other type of classified work is going on here and that the double fence (which you'll see at every secure intelligence facility in the country just about) is designed to keep people out rather than keep people in.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 11:33 PM
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18. Not true
It's actually back in a swamp away from everything. And actually most of the CIA, NRO, NGIA and DIA sites in NoVa only have a fence around them with a few cameras and a checkpoint. Hell The DIA has a building directly over top of the Clarendon Metro station. that is a detention facility no doubt in my mind.
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