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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:24 PM
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Poll question: So when will Bush pardon Libby?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:27 PM
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1. He won't
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:27 PM by tk2kewl
who ever is in office in Jan '09 will

i.e. the person who becomes veep when Cheney resigns and then takes office when bush is impeached or resigns
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:28 PM
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2. never,
and bush will never leave office. He will create some reason for martial law.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:32 PM
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3. I Think He'll Do It Immediately, Just to Rub Our Noses In It
That has been his style so far.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:33 PM
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4. You know, you make a good point. That is his style and it keeps his base happy. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:44 PM
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5. It just might be a function of how long he stays out of jail. Or if he does.
Toss 'go directly to jail/you can appeal from prison' into the equation, and everything is up for grabs.

If he doesn't go to a real sweet Club Fed, one of those ones with swimming and tennis that you find on Air Force bases, for example, and instead, the conditions are a bit austere and onerous, conducive to things like 'cooperation in exchange for sentence reduction' then maybe Bush would do it sooner.

Quite frankly, if I wanted to get Libby out of the clutch of a prosecutor who might lean on him, I'd pardon him on a Thursday, and ensure that CHENEY RESIGNS is the headline on Friday. Mix it all up, so the lead story is CHENEY, not a suspicious pardon.

That way, the whole pardon/resignation would play like a quid pro quo--"Ok, Dick, I will pardon 'your' boy (even though he worked for BOTH of them), but you have to go..." Then, they'd blame everything short of Nahn Wun Wun--the war, Plamegate, Walter Reed, you name it, on Big Dick. He's such an irrascible, hated shithead now anyway that it wouldn't make any difference. The Monkey would happily throw Big Dick under the bus if thought it would protect his "legacy."
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jbonkowski Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:53 PM
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6. Remember that a pardon admits guilt
If Libby gets a presidential pardon, he is still a convicted felon, right?

Libby is better off appealing the verdict first, because it could get thrown out, then he could claim innocence.

If Bush pardons him, does the appeals process stop? It seems to me that one wouldn't want the pardon except as a last resort, because it still leaves you with a conviction.

There will be no pardon until Christmas 08 or Bush's last day in office, whichever comes first.

jim
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:42 PM
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7. No, the pardon wipes out the 'convicted felon' aspect. Acceptance indicates you acknowledge guilt.
When you're pardoned, the slate is wiped clean. http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardons0a.htm

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:43 PM
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8. in the next 6 months and he will claim its like Ford pardoning Nixon
And its good for the country or some BS like that.
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