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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:11 PM
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COWARDS!-NYT Confirms Poland torture, but does not name facility... why? (Larisa Alexandrovna)
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 03:13 PM by kpete
June 22, 2008
Larisa Alexandrovna

NYT Confirms Poland torture, but does not name facility... why?



Remember that Polish facility used for rendition and torture by the US I identified/broke in March of 2007? Just a reminder:

"POLAND -- The CIA operated an interrogation and short-term detention facility for suspected terrorists within a Polish intelligence training school with the explicit approval of British and US authorities, according to British and Polish intelligence officials familiar with the arrangements.

Intelligence officials identify the site as a component of a Polish intelligence training school outside the northern Polish village of Stare Kiejkuty. While previously suspected, the facility has never been conclusively identified as being part of the CIA's secret rendition and detention program.

Only the Polish prime minister and top Polish intelligence brass were told of the plan, in which agents of the United States quietly shuttled detainees from other holding facilities around the globe for stopovers and short-term interrogation in Poland between late 2002 and 2004.

According to a confidential British intelligence memo shown to RAW STORY, Prime Minister Tony Blair told Poland's then-Prime Minister Leszek Miller to keep the information secret, even from his own government.

“Miller was asked to keep it as tight as possible,” the memo said."

In response, Miller and his intelligence chief made 24/7 TV appearances slandering me.

Well, today, the NYT reports (but as usual does not credit) that KSM was tortured in Poland, but they don't have the integrity to identify the facility by name:


"WASHINGTON — In a makeshift prison in the north of Poland, Al Qaeda’s engineer of mass murder faced off against his Central Intelligence Agency interrogator. It was 18 months after the 9/11 attacks, and the invasion of Iraq was giving Muslim extremists new motives for havoc. If anyone knew about the next plot, it was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed"


The facility, this "makeshift prison in the north of Poland" is Stare Kiejkuty. The small airport right near it was used to bring in the detainees. For shame - to get this far into this administration and know just how much power has been abused with regard to classified information - and stop short of identifying the facility that was used for illegal operations by the US is truly negligent journalism. I am certain that the push-back we got and the reasons given by this administration were the same as NYT got with regard to running this information, and yet we ran the location and name of the facility. Why did NYT cop out?

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/06/nyt-confirms-po.html
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:15 PM
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1. Thank you, Lala.
If the Bush Junta has a secret, let's get it out there. The secrecy probably has more to do with their security than national security.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:22 PM
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3. the thing is it is already out there... so why is NYT
playing this game? it makes me sick to see this go on, no joke.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:42 PM
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2. No wonder bush didn't want us to forget Poland
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:25 PM
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4. Auschwitz?
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:41 PM
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5. I thought Poland had some of the toughest anti-torture..
and anti-forced imprisonment laws out there. You would think that they of all people would remember history and fight vigilantly against history repeating itself...
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:53 PM
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6. Austria? Germany? Thanks.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 09:19 PM
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7. kick for LaLa
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 09:44 PM
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8. Despicable. More than worthy of just my K & R,
I am ashamed of my country that we have so distorted Poland's national perception of itself that it perceived it must abide by torture in return for US love (?!, approbiation?!, respect ?! - what?). It makes me sick to think of a country like Poland which has such a terrible history, participing in such illegal and heinous acts.
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